“Amongst Israelis, 69% of those killed were civilians and 31% members of the IDF. The number of Israeli civilians killed, from attacks by Palestinian armed groups or individuals, has declined steadily, peaking in 2002 at an average of 22 deaths per month, and dropping markedly to an average of one civilian per month in 2007. 6/
In contrast to Israeli figures, however, Palestinian civilian fatalities have remained high. Palestinian civilians, killed by Israeli security forces, peaked with an average of 35 deaths per month in 2002, and again in 2004. In 2007 they dropped slightly to an average of ten civilian deaths per month.”
Both sides kill civilians with abandon, and Israel is markedly better at it. Major media doesn’t seem to care very much about Palestinian civilians though.
Fair, but the point is that there is no side here playing by the no civilians rule, yet only Palestinians are called out for it.
The headline of the newest chapter in this shitshow for some reason is “How could Hamas attack Civilians?! Civilians?!” When the reality is that hasn’t really been a red line to the Israeli government or Hamas. Never has been.
Its evil all day, don’t get me wrong. The twisted thing is that somehow Israel is somehow perpetually marketed as being the good guys playing by the rules of engagement in spite of being no different with regards to killing non-enemy combatants.
Why are israeli civilian concert goers a global tragedy, while Palestinian civilian casualties past and present just another thursday? Why doesn’t the world lose its shit at 10 Palestinian civilians killed a month? Are Palestinians somehow universally recognized as having less value as human beings than Israelis?
I believe humanity has passed the point where we can. We lack the will. We’re monkeys just barely smart enough with concerted effort to create technologies we lack the impulse control to wield responsibly. We figured out gun powder, and proceeded to use it to commit genocides, for example.
This wasn’t a problem for the planet, only one another, until industrialization. Now we’re addicted to technologies that make wealthy people wealthier while poisoning our only shared habitat. Now we’re monkeys with multiple, competing self-destructive but potentially profitable technologies all vying to blow up in our face in the quest to enrich those that hold their patents, and they answer to no one. World governments instead seem to answer to them.
So yeah, I don’t see a non-violent solution where you put a big red nuclear button in an orangutan sanctuary that looks like their food dispenser button, and taking thr big red nuclear button away from them, even by force, is off the table.
I can only control myself, I can’t force my fellow peasants to stop digging their own graves to further enrich a few thousand sociopath families who’ve convinced them this is the only way. There’s peace in acceptance I suppose.
It’s not like it’s gonna take that long. And if not climate change, the AI they don’t fully understand but are trying to monetize. And if not AI, CRISPR derived vectors they don’t fully understand but are trying to monetize, etc.
Lets just stay the course. It will all work out in the end, at least for the planet, and that’s ultimately what matters.
We can have the perpetual pain of subsistence and servitude to the oligarch club until it collapses under the weight of its own manipulation and propaganda after generations of needless suffering of our children and children’s children necessitating the painful work of rebuilding, or we can destroy the society built from the ground up as a capitalist exploitation trap and do the painful work of rebuilding.
This society perpetuates the misery and exploitation of the many to serve the whims and desires of the few. You act as if it’s worth saving. Go to one of your local tent cities, where we throw our fellow humans, aka defective capital batteries, to die of exposure and police harassment. This system is rotten to its core and will have to be torn down and rebuilt, the only question, just with climate change, is do we let the gaping wound continue fester, hoping it will be the next generation’s problem to amputate? Or do we take on the painful necessity of repairing the boomer’s greed plague for the future they didnt care about at all?
I’d rather our species be destroyed than continue to commit itself further and further to greed and greed worship. I consider greed far worse than hate. At least people that kill out of hate cared about who they killed, in that they want them dead. A capitalist that poisons children’s drinking water to make private shareholders a few extra dollars doesn’t even care to know those children’s names, they were just speedbumps to glorious profit. To me it is the darkest we can go to hurt others for profit. And our society’s core value above all others is greed. That’s worth saving?
Literally everything you just proposed is beyond a pipe dream under the current rigged system. The owners bribe the Republicans and Neoliberals to dictate their preferred economic policy as they stoke social issues to keep the peasants divided. The oligarchs that bribe both major parties will never permit UBI, they spent decades systematically legalizing political bribery culminating in citizens united, they are the reason Antitrust laws on the books aren’t enforced, they are the reason the fairness doctrine was abandoned for private profit, and they like us fighting over abortion, immigration, guns, etc because it stops us from uniting against them.
Also the idea that even without the oligarchs that politicians would regulate their own term limits is absurd. Why do you think they exempt their pay from government shutdowns and have lifetime universal healthcare just for themselves?
The last, last, last chance to do any of what you suggest using the constitutional tools of the system would have been to soundly and firmly reject the Reagan grift, trickle down economics, and the Jack Welch dehumanization of the economy 50 years ago. Instead they convinced their “opposition” party to take the bribes and the peasants not to engage in “unseemly” class war as they won without a fight. We’ve lived under class occupation ever since. This system is beyond all salvation.
Don’t worry though, the half of the peasants that have been indoctrinated from childhood to believe what you believe will protect that occupation against their own interests to the bitter end, so you have nothing to fear from us tankies.
Unfortunately for you, the sycophants, and capitalists, and everyone else including me, climate change is the physical reaction to our careless actions, and is completely immune to any and all pathetic attempts to obfuscate, blackmail, bribe, assassinate, or otherwise con it into backing down, despite all the vaporware like clean coal, corn ethanol, hydrogen, and planet scale carbon filter the capitalists try to make another buck on before last call. But oowee, they’re trying to bullshit their way out of it to darkly hilarious effect.
The severe, civilization scale consequences of the damage we have done, are presently doing, and will continue to do for private profit to our only habitat we all depemd on for survival from one moment to the next also doesn’t care about statecraft or political science attempts to minimize/ignore/discredit it through self-serving rhetoric of those in political power attempting to maintain that power.
Sorry. No bullshitting our way out of this one like it’s just another human on human genocide we can rebrand and massage the messaging of. The physics are determinate, and no amount our patented human extracted snake oil will change that.
Try to spin the greed vice, failing, and personality deficit as a positive like “rational self-interest” all day. Humanity sanctioning and even encouraging that darkest of impulses did this.
The workers built the means, they just never owned them.
Let me guess, you think Steve Jobs made the iPhone because he pulled it out of his pocket on a stage and took the credit of engineers standing on the shoulders of publically funded basic research? Steve jobs couldn’t engineer his way out of a wet paper bag, and that is well documented.
That said, on that specific night, women were lucky the patriarchy was still in place, as ladies first chivalry, based on the idea that women were objects/property to be cared for rather than individuals who could/should fend for themselves, still applied and well over twice as many women were given seats on lifeboats as men, which would be seen as really patronizing today.
Oh ok, so you agree those seniors shouldn’t have eaten because reverse mortgage scams shouldn’t exist and your initial reply had no point, got it. How Seinfeldian.
You realize that predatory crutches become systemic necessities precisely because they band aid such systemic issues from being addressed properly right?
Social security exists because seniors were dying in the streets.
Predatory reverse mortgages shouldn’t exist to exploit desperate people who would otherwise die, anymore than payday loan traps shouldn’t exist getting people trapped in impossible interest traps over a one time shortfall.
Instead of going through the pain and having society respond through governmental policy change, you now have predators making things far worse long term installing themselves as the “free market solution” that needs to be protected by government while bleeding already struggling populations to new depths.
A pay day loan /reverse mortgage may save a person here or there, but their existence at large hurts so many more. I will say it point blank: it was worth a lot of people dying to get social security enacted, because it was a real solution to a real problem, not yet another level of con game drawing out the pain.
And no, social security would not have been enacted when it was without those deaths. It would have been a far worse outcome for society if some predatory workhouse industry moved in and “saved” them in some cruel for profit scheme and declaring the problem “solved.”
This is what the capitalist’s reverse mortgage scams they advertise 24/7 on Fox News are for.
And what a quintessentially stereotypical boomer thing to do too, basically leaving their paid off home to a bank for a pittance instead of their kid because fuck everything and everyone once they’re dead.
“Burn my trees upon death so no one can sit under them, and salt the Earth so no others can grow. Everything was mine and it’s no fair I can’t take it with me to supply side heaven.”
Reminder, prior to the 1980s, America largely had an entirely different and actually equitable business model, even in large corporations: Customers first, employees second, investors third. This makes sense because if customers and employees are unhappy, the business will fail. It was well understood that happy customers + happy employees = investors make money and are happy too.
Then the greed class, led by people like John Francis Welch, apt last name, and sold by mascots like Ronald Reagan, waged and won the class war handily by convincing the laborers it would be unseemly to engage in class war while they were economically slaughtered. Unchecked greed went from being acknowledged as the vile personal failing and personality deficit it is to being America’s core cultural value, one we’ve been exporting globally ever since to my shame by association. The George Baileys appealing to basic humanity were snuffed out, and we now all live in Pottersville on Pottersearth. (These are It’s a Wonderful Life references, for the uninitiated)
Now business priorities are defined by truly sociopathic capital markets, and the global business model is now investors first, investors second, investors third, and fuck you your position was outsourced to an 8 year old slave child in Bangladesh so I can pocket an extra dollar lol.
That’s why you’re miserable as an employee, and why you can’t get service worth dogshit as a customer. Blame the capitalists who decided to cannibalize their own societies and planet for short-term profit. The ones that were already making a lot more and living larger than their employees, but demanded to live like modern Pharoahs on humanity’s back.
Because it’s worth you subsisting in fear and uncertainty, unable to afford to actually live a decent life, to travel to places and have experiences, so that the big mega yacht an oligarch commissioned can have a slightly smaller support mega yacht to tug it around and go where the big mega yacht is too big to fit. Priorities, duh!
You make a hardware store with knowledgable, helpful, well paid staff, ethically sourced quality products, and sell hammers for $20 because that’s what your buying power at your scale allows you to turn a reasonable, sustainable profit on.
Walmart pays overseas slavers to make 10,000 hammers at $1 each and they sell them at the new Walmart that just moved in for $7. Customers need to find it themselves because the employees correctly don’t give a shit as they’re paid shit.
Sadly, us peasants have proven, given the opportunity and out of necessity, we will support Walmart and their $7 slave labor made, slave labor sold shit hammer, before supporting a local business with ethical business practices selling a $20 hammer, even at higher quality.
Oh and after Walmart has put main street out of business with $7 hammers, they’ll raise that price to $18 and pocket the difference, as was the plan.
Integrity costs more to deliver than exploitation, and the less you have the less you can afford to support integrity in business. That’s why most of America’s main streets are shadows of their former selves, that degradation started far before Amazon and internet shopping started doing to Walmart what Walmart did to honorable entrepreneurs.
Americans sure do love a “great deal.” over time though, those great deals cost us all more than we could imagine. We never considered the inevitable outcome of those great deals we got by dealing with amoral, exploitative businesses. We were so short sighted that we just assumed that those amoral businesses willing to hurt anyone from employees to suppliers still had the customer’s best interests at heart. We thought we were in on the hustle with those $7 hammers, when we were just another mark.
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