Cowbee

@Cowbee@lemm.ee

This town, in fact, has more than enough room for the two of us

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Cowbee,

Do you exist purely in the present with no knowledge of how past actions create future problems?

Cowbee,

Are you saying Biden caused the war in Ukraine and Trump caused $2 gas, without causing $3-4 gas today?

Do you understand that the economy has momentum that takes years to fully manifest? We don’t live in a command economy, lmao.

Cowbee,

Holy shit you’re legitimately a lunatic, to be referencing fucking WE as a source.

Either way, nothing you’ve pointed to means Trump’s terrible economic choices for short term gains and long term disaster didn’t also impact gas prices, or even the majority of the impact.

Please, keep consuming anti-science brainrot and continue to persist in your white-supremacist echo chamber. I’m sure one day you’ll hate your way into happiness!

Cowbee,

Sure, he did one thing that likely did impact gas prices. That does not in any way mean that Trump’s fucking terrible economic policy isn’t a thing. It’s anti-science to deny climate change, which the WE does.

I never made the point that it didn’t affect gas prices, you failed to deny Trump’s impact on gas prices. This is how logic works, though I know it’s difficult for you.

Cowbee, (edited )

I did not argue that point. I claimed that Trump’s dogshit economic policy was a major factor in today’s inflation, but I understand that reading and logic don’t come naturally to you. Trump made decisions that directly harmed the economy in the long run purely to make himself look better.

We cannot argue about environmental impact, it’s a fact. The fact that you even suggest that it’s arguable proves your own lack of intelligence, the same as you pretending I claimed Biden had no impact.

Cowbee,

Unfortunately, the time for a better candidate was last election cycle. Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.

That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.

Cowbee,

Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.

Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit. Voting dem won’t fix issues, it will just prevent many more from cropping up. What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.

Cowbee,

Plenty, but they appear to go over your head as you constantly dodge and pull whataboutisms.

Yes, I said that.

Trump isn’t to blame for Biden’s impact on gas prices. At the same time, Biden isn’t to blame for the disastrous economic policy of Trump that caused massive inflation and instilled purely incompetent people into stations like the Supreme Court. Gas prices have trajectory, if you can recognize that Biden has had a negative impact on gas prices then surely you can understand that Trump royally fucked the economy, along with Social Programs and steered the US towards fascism.

I’m not a Biden Stan, I think he’s a shitty lib. Shitty libs are better than incompetent fascists.

Cowbee,

It’s not about comfort, voting harder won’t meaningfully improve anything, just prevent it from getting worse.

I’m aware of the ratchet effect.

Do you want me to list out every meaningful thing you can do to improve your life and the lives of others? Advocate, unionize, organize, volunteer, start a community garden, work at a soup kitchen, educate yourself and others, help someone in need, etc. It isn’t that complicated, really, and your denial of actually doing shit to help and instead whine about how Biden is a Neoliberal ghoul (which I agree with) and therefore can’t beat a fascist (I disagree with this) is absurd.

Cowbee,

Yep, like they lack object permanence.

Cowbee,

Protesting helps a little, that’s not what I’m referring to by a grassroots movement. You can’t really do much in the face of a bourgeois dictatorship via electoral means, the system itself is designed against radical change.

Cowbee,

Engineering is just the economical application of applied physics, without Physicists Engineers work off faulty knowledge, without Engineers nothing gets designed.

The level of understanding an Engineer needs, however, is purely within the practical and economical, while Physicists understandably have more in-depth knowledge.

Cowbee,

It just so happens to be a consequence of Capitalism, though.

Cowbee,

Competition, sure. Sports, competitive cooperation, and other methods can be had. Market competition would not exist.

I could be saying the same thing you’re saying though, so correct me if I’m misunderstanding please.

Cowbee,

Oh I agree, one fully unified, decentralized “government” would be best, organized bottom-up.

Cowbee,

Couple things here: Communism is Socialism, a form of it. Communism has never been “implemented” either, as it’s specifically a post-Socialist stage. The ML states you’re referring to were Socialist, and didn’t reach Communism.

Secondly, the ML states were ML states, and as such were deliberately adapting new theory proposed by Lenin and distilled by Stalin.

I’m in no way a Stalinist, or a simp for the USSR, your comment is just wrong.

By your very same logical chain, Capitalism is an ideology 400 years old that failed miserably every time, as well as Socialism. It’s meaningless word salad.

Cowbee,

Decentralization appeals to leftists, and the founder of Lemmy is a vocal Communist. As such, there are lots of leftists of various flavors, be they Marxist or Anarchist.

Cowbee, (edited )

How would one take advantage of Communism for personal gain in a way that goes against Communism? Have you legitimately thought beyond pure vibes in your head?

How does one “easily seize power” in a democratically controlled system, moreso than a top-down oriented one like Capitalism?

Cowbee,

Marxist-Leninist. To simplify, Marx wrote some stuff, Lenin expanded on it and threw a revolution, shortly after which he fucking died. Stalin wrote a couple more sentences then distilled the ideology of Marxism-Leninism. That’s why you have non-Marxist-Leninist Marxists/Leninists like the ICP, as word-salady as that sounds.

The essential factor is the belief in the use of a Vanguard Party to carry out a revolution and build up a Socialist state to whither into Communism.

Cowbee,

Maybe if this was Reddit, but on Lemmy there are vast numbers of Communists and Socialists, not just Social Democrats who want Capitalism with band-aids. The founder is a Communist, and decentralization is core to leftist ideologies.

Cowbee,

Got it, just vibes and emotions, then.

Cowbee,

No, I think we disagree here. Pure Communism is a good thing, it just takes time to build it. What the USSR had was a flawed version of Marxism-Leninism, which even if replicated today would not have the same set of issues it faced uniquely due to civil war, WWII, and Stalin. I don’t want a recreation of the USSR either, but I do want Communism as the end goal.

The Free Market is a sham and the profit motive results in stagnation, consumerism, Imperialism, and a lack of choice. Competition is only a good thing in the context of Capitalism and Markets. Social Safety Nets are not Worker Ownership of the Means of Production.

What you’re advocating for is Social Democracy, which is well and good compared to most Capitalist systems, but is straight up inferior to actual Socialism, as essentially its Capitalism but with band-aids.

Cowbee,

Believe me, it’s very noticeable. Perhaps you conflate liberals with Communists and Anarchists?

Cowbee,

Sure, if you stay out of the broader Lemmy and stick to niche subs, you’ll likely see more people that go to those niche subs. It’s not that you can’t find Communists or Anarchists on Reddit, they just tend to stick to their subs, while on Lemmy Communists and Anarchists are dominant in the bigger subs.

Cowbee,

Is that what I said? Do you think I’m talking about Vanguardism?

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