DarkGamer

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

It's almost like motivation, methods, intentions, and circumstances matter and not just body count. For example, intentionally targeting civilians to maximize civilian deaths is not the same as accidentally killing civilians with collateral damage while trying to minimize civilian deaths.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

As if the cartoon this thread is about wasn't claiming moral superiority for the other side.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

The Ukrainian resistance aren’t called terrorists, the french resistance during ww2 weren’t called terrorists.

That's probably because neither of those groups exhibited the mediaeval barbarity against civilians Hamas has been celebrating.

Hamas are like them freedom fighters and the atrocities they commit mirrors that of the aggressor.

Hamas is explicitly calling for genocide. "The aggressor," is not. Israel goes to great lengths to minimize civilian deaths, even notifying targets of incoming airstrikes before they hit.

If you think these actions are morally equivalent your moral compass is broken. One side is trying to defend themselves and the other side is trying to eradicate every member of their opponent's society.

They want freedom and they fight for it !

Perhaps they should negotiate for it rather than continually provoking an enemy they cannot defeat militarily and hiding among civilians. That would prevent many needless civilian casualties.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

Source?

That's troubling if true, and if it is, do you believe said soldiers speak for the entire Israeli government? Hamas's atrocities are official policy.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

Go fuck yourself Settler

Wow what a valuable contribution to the discussion. Piss off.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

You're suggesting that intent doesn't matter, causing accidental civilian deaths while defending one's self is an act morally equivalent to intentionally targeting and murdering civilians. I disagree. In most legal systems and ethical systems intent matters a lot.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for the link.

So one officer 7 years ago, who had the book thrown at him for his crimes by Israel. His actions are clearly opposed by his government and he was punished for his behavior. This isn't the smoking gun @matcha_addict was implying it is.

Do you think Hamas will punish its own rapists, murderers, and kidnappers?

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

“Palestinian women are not having lots of children because they don’t know about contraception, or can’t access contraception,” says Sara Randall, an anthropologist at University College London, who co-authored the 2006 investigation. “So one has to conclude that they actually want lots of children.” source

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

They do.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

Hamas is not a state or government. It is a militia to fight occupation.

Incorrect. Hamas was elected as the government of Gaza in 2006 and there hasn't been another election held since.

There are mountains of evidence of Israelis torturing and raping children, pregnant women and elderly Palestinians. There is mountains of evidence of Palestinians being burned alive, or forced to destroy their own homes with their bare hands. The magnitude of cruelty is unmatched.

Source?

Do you want more evidence? I am happy to provide.

Yes, please do.

But it seems you reject it even when presented evidence.

What evidence was I presented with that I rejected? The one article I was given (by someone else) does not prove systemic atrocities like you implied. It was an example of one criminal who was punished by Israel for his crimes.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

Hamas’ official policy is resisting occupation and massacre, not committing it.

Hamas' official policy is genocide and they just committed a massacre last week.

DarkGamer, 1 year ago

At this rate they shall soon have no house at all. Constant terror attacks against an undefeatable enemy and an unwillingness to compromise will ensure it.