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GuyFleegman, (edited )
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That’s not a particularly unique perspective, many Trekkies choose to process Star Trek as “historical documents.” There’s a movie about it.

What I don’t understand is why you’ve assigned this theoretical camera crew the intent of “get the camera on the gay dudes, stat” when “get the camera on the relationship between the two main characters” is a much simpler explanation. There are entire episodes dedicated to Odo & Kira, Paris & Torres or Trip & T’Pol relationship drama. Stamets & Culber screen time pales in comparison, and at least Stamets & Culber have some chemistry.

GuyFleegman,
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but as someone else pointed out it’s still not super common for gay characters, especially male characters, to be shown as being romantically involved, which can be jarring when you’re not used to it. Dunno, it’s weird.

Yep, many people still struggle with it. What do you think it would take to change this?

GuyFleegman, (edited )
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A “multi episode story arc”? You mean these 90 seconds? The only way this bit of character and relationship development could be less “heavy handed” would be if it didn’t happen at all.

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“”““loudly declare””“”

Adira tells Stamets their pronouns, and Stamets says “okay” approvingly. That’s it. That’s the full extent of what you are calling a “big deal.”

You understand that even in a society where everyone is allowed to “just be,” accidental misgendering is still going to happen and corrections will still need to be communicated, right? Marco misgendered Nico on their first appearance, so Nico must have corrected him. You are effectively arguing that enby representation is only acceptable if actual conversations about gender occur off-screen.

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It doesn’t. The episodes just get longer and more boring as the show progresses. The cancellation isn’t exactly a mystery.

GuyFleegman,
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Cullen

Seems like he’s talking about… Twilight?

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