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Who in the world celebrated that?

Like, I get the self-reinforcing bubble that Linux communities exist in and all, but... nobody did that.

The vast majority of Windows users are random people that never touch anything beyond the Start menu in their entire computing lives. What segment of the Windows userbase is out there celebrating any features, let alone command line anything? This is not a thing. At least not in numbers large enough to matter.

Sorry, I try not to get involved in these arguments. Frankly, grown adults taking sides on operating systems of all things like it's Sega vs Nintendo in a 90s playground seems very strange but I don't begrudge people finding communities wherever. It's just... you know, come on.

MudMan,
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Absolutely, if you've ever made the types of sausages for cold cuts at home it's very obvious. People think the white powdery thing is just cool packaging (and to be fair in ultraprocessed crap it can be), but nope, that stuff is transparent when you get started.

Also, the "transparent stuff"? Disemboweled guts. I mean, the mold should be the least of your concerns if you're going by gross-out factor.

MudMan,
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You left all the interesting ones out of that, though.

MudMan,
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Wine is spoiled grapes, all cheese is just milk you left out for so long it got dry and sausages are what happens when you disembowel a pig and stuff its guts with its own minced ass. Today I ate a thing that looks like the first draft of an Aliens facehugger they rejected for being too spiky.

People buy food so processed they forget we're just gross hungry animals just putting random things in their mouths to see if it keeps them alive for a bit.

MudMan,
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It's amazing, but I never peer pressure anybody to try it.

Because it's great when there's a cheese board and you get to hoard the blue cheese because people are "ew, gross, mold".

MudMan,
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Oh, you are giving a lot more credit to homemade food than it deserves. Or you're surprisingly alright with eating your own of all of the above.

MudMan,
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You didn't need to go to all the trouble, if you let some bread out in a humid place you'll get it all over it as well.

Still delicious.

MudMan,
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I've been seeing this story do the rounds and I feel like we're burying the lede here.

Who the hell is watching porn over Plex? That is somehow simultaneously the most uninformed and the most complicated way to access porn.

MudMan,
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Man, I am so glad "anarchocapitalist" is starting to stick. I can't believe they got away with the other word for as long as they did.

MudMan,
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I use ones that are explicitly labelled with a black strip. My tactic for opening them is to put them between my lips and blow, which works pretty well but got really weird during the mandatory masking periods.

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Counterpoint:

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Ah... ok, wow, that's a lot of relativity to explain from scratch for a non-physicist. There must be someone else...

Here, this one is a bit dense but it addresses Star Trek by name, so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTf4eqdQXpA

Bonus points for starting with the point that forget warp, subspace communication breaks causality already, so you don't even need to boldly go anywhere for any of it to be kinda busted.

If that's a bit too dry you can search for a similar subject line, there are TONS of explanations like this one out there.

Anyway, none of it makes sense, it's all for funsies anyway. Suspend disbelief, ye nerds, and enjoy your sci-fi.

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Don't make me break out the spacetime diagram, young man. Because I WILL break out the spacetime diagram.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Star Trek has messed with time travel since TOS season 1. And that was after they started introducing magic men with god powers, which they did in episode 3. It makes zero sense to get nerdy about it. That's my point here.

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You should get back into it, though. It's all pretty solid, except maybe some of Picard.

I did bounce off on DS9, too. That was a rough time for the franchise. Glad people enjoy it retroactively, though.

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I'd agree that can be an issue, but my guess is that trying to resolve those preemptively just adds to the perception of flamewars and drama around the platform. I'm a big proponent of not bringing stuff up to newcomers unless it's very directly in their way.

Ultimately a new user moving to a new OS needs two things: for everything that used to work for them to still work AND for at least one thing that didn't use to work to work better.

A useful guide for newcomers should drive to making those two things true, IMO. Sitting there choosing the nicest looking UI is a great passtime for tinkerers, but newcomers need exactly one option: the one that works. They can get to the fun customization later.

To me at the moment this reads less like a welcoming introduction to a exciting new alternative and more like a cautionary tale of why I shouldn't try. Oh, so my Nvidia hardware is a no-go, most of my apps may not work, I have to choose from a bunch of stuff that all looks the same to me and apparently there is a crapton of drama about things I have never heard about or understand, but that people seem to have very strong opinions about. Well, I guess my old printer no longer being supported on Win11 is not that big of a deal...

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm saying this constructively. Experts have a tendency to underestimate how lost newcomers can get and to misunderstand what the real roadblocks and churn points are. I'm trying to provide a perspective on those.

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I am always amused by how "Linux newbie" guides are consistently tons of pages of choice paralysis and esoteric concepts but they all take a stop at "well, the UI looks kinda like Windows on this one, so that will probably help".

Look, I'm not particularly new to Linux, but also don't daily drive it. In my experience the UI is not the problem. Ever. Compatibility and setup are the problem. Every Linux distro I've ever seen is perfectly usable, nitpicks aside. The part that will make a newcomer bounce off is configuration. Especially if they're trying to mess with relatively unusual hardware like laptops driven by proprietary software, with MUX switched GPUs and whatnot. Only people deep into the ecosystem care about the minutia of the UI and the package management.

MudMan,
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FWIW, our universal health coverage here will cover medical dental care, but not cosmetic. They'll patch up or remove your bad tooth, but I think it'd be harder to get an implant or a crown without paying for it. Weirdly, dentists are still one of the two or three basic services where people here are still willing to pay for uncovered medical attention, the others being eyecare and pediatrics.

When I needed surgery my private dentist still sent me over to the public system, though. Took a look at my X-rays, told me she wasn't gonna touch any of that without an MRI and an OR on standby and told me to go to my public doctor with a note and tell them to get me booked with a maxillofacial surgeon, which I did. It wasn't that big of a deal in the end, but the reaction was... revealing.

MudMan,
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Hey, it's why it's so possible to make loving parodies of Trek, right? If it seems okay to Tony Shalhoub it's fine by me.

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I mean, in fairness their strategy for space exploration seems to be to point a starship in a random direction, hit "go" and beam down to every planet with a remotely breathable atmosphere in their PJ onesies.

The impressive part is they still seem to be the dominant superpower in half the galaxy, so... yay for them.

MudMan,
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I keep telling people that the UI being similar is the least of the worries of a Windows expat. I promise all of Linux's mainstream GUIs are perfectly intuitive for a frequent Windows user. The things that are most annoying are software and hardware compatibility and not having to manually hunt for support or equivalent software.

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This. There is zero chance of creating change by voting for a third party selectively in a FPTP system.

Electoral systems are known to be extremely stable because all the power is in the hands of people who benefit from the current system, again by definition. Crucially, it doesn't matter WHO they are, if they won with this system, they are for this system.

To get electoral reform you need those who benefit to find it either ethically important or politically expedient to enact reform. Right now is actually a good time to start bringing up that issue, because one has to assume there is a growing realization in Democrats and at least a segment of semi-reasonable conservatives that the current system is exposed to very, very bad things in a short timeframe.

So if the US is going to get electoral reform done without going through the process of setting the country, and subsequently the planet, on fire you need a) a Dem in power, and b) a massive consensus and outright downpour of activist pressure for this on every level of government. Probably forever, seeing how the entire rest of the system is a mess, but baby steps.

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How to make that relevant again: Get a time machine.

The fascists are already on the ballot, in case anybody missed that detail.

I swear, this stuff barely played back when it seemed like an idle concern of the politically inclined. Today it seems entirely detached from reality.

But hey, by all means, absolutely get the kind of reform that would make this make sense again. I want a world in which this thread doesn't feel like either disingenuous trolling, a conservative psyop or entirely delusional. I want a world where Americans can vote for multiple parties and get proper coalitions and stuff.

But seriously, until that point, just vote for whoever the Democrat is.

MudMan,
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I can't imagine anybody in the US would advocate for the nonsense in the OP above ruthlessly, relentlessly campaigning for this instead.

It's like they're cosplaying at politics.

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Admittedly, if you were on some isolated area and this came off a boat you'd think you're being invaded by aliens, too.

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I want the record to show I didn't even go with the top 5 most absurd Met gala outfits that came up when I googled, I was trying to keep it fair here.

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