OurToothbrush

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OurToothbrush,

Oh, so you are an anticommunist “leftist” then?

Edit: your post history seems to indicate you’re a social democrat, which is just capitalism with a welfare state. Aka capitalism.

OurToothbrush,

Yes, the goal posts of definitions created by a guy who has been dead for more than 100 years. Clarifying a misunderstanding on a basic concept of Marxist analysis of capitalism written more than 100 years ago is moving the goalposts.

Also, can you live entirely off your passive income? If not, youre not even petite bourgeoisie.

OurToothbrush,

Dogwhistles? Lol I’m straight up using explicitly communist language to communicate communist ideas. And the only time I insulted you was the previous comment. Unless you think being haut bourgeoisie would be a good thing?

OurToothbrush, (edited )

It was meant to be snarky as in laughing with you not at you.

OurToothbrush,

Ah, yeah, I used to be a social democrat too, but I did a lot of reading and I came to the conclusion that social democracy isn’t really politically sustainable without the threat of communism, and it really isn’t economically stable in the same way capitalism isn’t as laid out in Capital (which is a good read btw, very dense but worth reading for the economic analysis)

Yeah anything gets you labeled a commie nowadays, McCarthyism is alive and well.

OurToothbrush,

The quality content I’ve come to expect from lemmy.world users.

OurToothbrush,

20 percent of children in the US are food insecure and we have the largest prison industrial complex on the planet. If I had a shittier job and broke my leg I would end up homeless. My cousin who can’t hold down a job due to a chronic illness would die on the streets if she didn’t have family support. But yeah the system works.

OurToothbrush,

The USSR was literally invaded in its infancy by France Britain and the US. Trust me the USSR was getting fucked with by bourgeois dictatorships since the beginning.

OurToothbrush,

Read: “I only subscribe to the economics of the oppressor class. If they refuse to accept a basic mathematical truth that implies bad things about them, so do I!”

OurToothbrush,

I mean that was and is a basic communist agitating point, you might be closer to a communist than you think.

OurToothbrush,

Owning a truck isn’t capital, it’s apparently got to be a lot to make someone a capitalist.

Owning a truck for personal transportation is literally personal property, not private property. Can you give me a quick definition according to Marxists of personal and private property?

Because you speak as if you’re qualified to define leftist:

That is not leftist or anti-capitalist, but simply “eat the rich”.

I do not believe most humans think this great system for all but feel helpless,

That is capitalist realism for you.

OurToothbrush,

It is possible, but not worth it.

Okay, so no, you don’t. And you’re more interested in coming off as knowledgeable than learning (because you could just look it up in 5 seconds and give a definition), which is cowardly behavior.

That is realism. Which is usually quite valuable if you want to change a system.

Capitalist realism isn’t realism, it is specifically referring to the “end of history” narrative

You seem hell bent on apply the label capitalist as an epithet on just about everyone you respond to. Can you quickly tell us what you think it will accomplish?

I’m using preciae language that would be understandable if you knew the first thing about socialism, which you claim to.

OurToothbrush,

What about disabled people who have no family? What about people who have family that can’t support them financially? What about people who can’t afford to build a unit? The system is the problem. We are more insulated from it then most.

OurToothbrush,

Here is an illustrative anecdote since we are trading those:

I miss free housing, social justice, positive constrictive ideology, bearable work relations (or would it be more proper to say conditions?).

Age is…far above 30.

I admit, I haven’t encountered social justice or ideology in my very early ages, but I had opportunity to feel benefits of free housing (since my family got a nice 3bd-room flat in their possession), and…my parents worked much less than I do, and never worked at home.

www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/…/hxtgsbd/

Here is data: statista.com/…/russia-opinion-on-dissolution-of-t…

Note that the people who were adults before its collapse overwhelmingly want it back, and that Russians only supported its continuation back in the 90s referendum at 55ish percent compared to much higher percentages in the non-Russian SSRs.

OurToothbrush,

You also have less influence on the world around you than your farts. You have crumbs and you think you’re in charge because the people below you are worse off. You’re not going to have control until you organize together with the people on your side of the class conflict.

OurToothbrush,

Id argue that the free market incentivizes the capture of politicians but I think we are on the same side here.

OurToothbrush,

lemmy.ml/comment/4890118

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Yeah, the racial resentment and chauvinism is really an indicator that you’re not miserable and impotent.

OurToothbrush,

I think you took a statement about your class position as an insult. But I want to clarify, if you stopped working tomorrow would you have enough income for the rest of your life? If not, youre a member of the proletariat. If you could, youre petite bourgeoisie. You operate under capitalist logic but don’t have enough power to actually exercise control over the wider context your business exists in. You would be a small fish at the mercy of being eaten by larger fish. Better to not live in a system where anyone is a fish.

OurToothbrush,

It isnt generalization it is categorization. You come at things from a social democrat perspective very clearly based on a few comments talking about your politics.

OurToothbrush,

“If you dont own factories you dont benefit from the system, you should not defend it”

“Oh okay, so you have completely isolated yourself from the system then?”

No, that’s not the point, the point is to end the exploitation, not escape it, which is always a fanciful idea as you cannot escape the indirect effects of it. Also do you think almost anyone is capable of doing the things you mentioned? You’d have to be really wealthy to do those things.

OurToothbrush,

Yes, yes. It is cool and subversive to support capitalism, or at least oppose its alternatives.(aka support capitalism) You’re part of the cool club of people who act in the interests of the bourgeoisie and not of your own class. A real independent thinker.

(Not that any of us are independent thinkers, but one of us is defending the powers that be and calling the other a chatbot)

OurToothbrush,

I’ve literally cited evidence before you left this comment lmao.

OurToothbrush,

You have to look at it in terms of power dynamics though. Israel is a uS backed settler colonial apartheid regime that propped up Hamas because they would rather face Islamic fundamentalists then socialist opposition. They’re either directly or indirectly responsible for all of the violence.

Only one side could hypothetically end the violence tomorrow.

OurToothbrush,

The US never has benevolent intentions when it comes to war.

OurToothbrush,

Wait, are you telling me that a country thats killed millions of muslim people over the last twenty years isnt being good faith about how it portrays how its geopolitical rival treats a Muslim minority?

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