Close but not quite: the correct grammar is to always mention yourself last (with second person coming first if present in the sentence and then third person) and, as you say, use I or me depending on which one it would be if the others weren’t in the sentence.
Wrong
“Me and Dave are going spelunking”
“Remember that Dave, you, and I are going spelunking”
“This is a picture of Dave and I spelunking”
Right
“Dave and I are going spelunking”
“Remember that you, Dave, and I are going spelunking”
What exactly separates the grammar of “I (and Dave) am going” vs “Dave (and I) is going”?
The same thing that seperates the first one from “going Dave am I and”. Word order matters.
the order of the coordinations is a matter of style, not grammar.
Categorically false
Therefore, the only “wrong” grammar is constructions that natives wouldn’t use
Wrong again. Plenty of native speakers of just about every single language there is have atrocious grammar. Native ≠ correct grammar.
It’s not wrong, merely a different register of speaking
It’s wrong when it comes to grammar. Whether or not gramatically incorrect colloquial speech is acceptable and sometimes even preferable to being gramatically correct (it is in most cases, but in some it can be very grating) is a different matter entirely.
Accepting only prestige dialects as “correct” grammar
Nobody said anything about dialect
people continue to think things like "black people don’t speak right
As I mentioned earlier, colloquial speech can be as good as or better than gramatically correct speech in some cases.
You’re mixing up a whole lot of things that aren’t grammar and just generally being wildly wrong all over the place.
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That and anyone who explains to the left that they too would like a better nominee, but we can figure that out after this crucial election cycle…during every election cycle for their entire life, which are the only times they discuss politics.
Nobody said anything about FAR right. In fact, you’re the one who’s characterizing people as extremists for disagreeing with you, a typical centrist move.
Regulatory capture at work. If you’re the second-richest man in the world and a darling of the far right to boot, they’ll let you do pretty much whatever you want.
Just to be clear, the Far Left and the Far Right wings of parliament in America are equally retarded as one another. Just for different reasons.
Debunked horseshoe theory bullshit. There’s no “far left” in the American “parliament” (it’s called the Congress. At least try learning the terms before you start spouting your bullshit).
Besides, even if we DID accept your premise of European style Social Democrats being “far left”, wanting people to have healthcare and a living wage isn’t equivalent to fucking FASCISM in any way.
Also, no ableist slurs, please.
Here, we have labour/liberal but the are only just over the centerline
Keir “I desperately want to be Tony Blair” Starmer’s Labour isn’t left of center. It’s center-right at best.
We the people own the government, not the other way around
Says a guy from the kingdom whose royal family is the number one land owner in the world and has had 3 different Tory PMs since the last election.
Same with [lets be honest, fucking bribes] masked as donations. How you are not in the bottom quarter of the most corrupt countries list has me baffled.
Right on the money (pun intended) with this, though.
The labour party is literally further left than the American Left Wing of Congress lol.
That might have been true under Corbyn, but definitely not now that Keir “I desperately want to be Tony Blair” Starmer has taken over and remade the party in his center right to right wing image.
There is not a single far left politician in Congress.
True.
You have vastly overestimated your understanding of American politics.
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