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abff08f4813c,

I'm still struggling with whether or not I'm going to astroturf my comment history
I kinda feel like it does more harm to people just looking for answers than it ever will to Spez if I were to remove it

Here's what I recommend to have the best of both worlds, while still taking advantage of mass editing tools.

Create a magazine or two on kbin specifically just to hold your content.

Copy it over and paste it into your mags.

Mass edit your content on reddit with the usual message, but also include a link to your kbin profile. Folks who want to see the useful content can still find it that way.

abff08f4813c,

The issue with commenters like this is it is hard to tell who is real and who is an astroturfer.

We recently had a reveal of one. See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/92172/Why-Reddit-and-u-spez-must-win and the followup at https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/121064/You-are-winning

abff08f4813c,

Check out https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

abff08f4813c, (edited )

Now all this content is unhelpful because the sub is private

You could try sending a modmail to see if the mod will give you access to the sub so you can see your own content, or send you a copy of a specific post or comment.

or the original question context was deleted.

One thing to note is that this happened all the time on reddit as folks either deleted their question and throwaway account as soon as they got their answer. Other times folks would ask with their main account but used something like shreddit once a month. So this isn't exactly new to the protest.

When I move my content to its new home, I usually avoid naming the questioner and I briefly summarize their question/responses. This way the content has the added context to be understandable.

If the post is from Feb of this year or older and you forgot the context but want to save the content, you can search for the post in the pushshift torrents - if it was deleted as part of the protest then the pushshift torrent will have the original content in it and you can restore the context that way.

This really bums me out that all this energy and effort has gone to waste.

Additional effort is required to do what I do, but the result is that the effort has not gone to waste, instead folks who want it can view it on the fediverse.

There is something to be said about abandoning and moving on without burning the bridges in the process,

From my POV reddit burned those bridges.

rendering not only your content as useless,

It's not useless, it now serves to move people away from reddit. Remember, with reddit you never know when you will be permabanned - it seems to happen entirely at random nowadays.

but other people's as well

Mostly I've only seen three categories of this.

  1. A throwaway or an account not logged into for a while. The owner if still alive probably doesn't have the access to move it away anymore anyways.
  2. Content that is still present under "[deleted]" - person got hit by a 1k limit or something and missed deleting that before deleting the account.
  3. Content from a mod, who has't moved off yet as they're trying to hold onto the sub for the protest.

I figure I'm better off moving my content with context anyways, since that prevents the person in 1. or 3. from coming back and confusing the context.

The other thing I do when commenting is quoting extensively, that way the context is clear from my own comments.

abff08f4813c,

But the niche ones are the ones most likely to shutdown or move

abff08f4813c,

I'm sure users will step forward if they care.

This is the part I didn't quite get. Like I am sure that there were users who requested this sub in r/redditrequest after r/TIHI became unmoderated.

For some reason I don't understand, these requests did not pan out and it ended up getting shut down instead.

At the very least, users stepping forward doesn't seem to be enough on its own.

abff08f4813c,

TIHI stood for Thanks, I Hate It. I never browsed but figure it was a meme sub on things to dislike.

abff08f4813c,

Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

abff08f4813c,

Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

abff08f4813c,

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

abff08f4813c,

Welcome aboard! Which app is that?

abff08f4813c, (edited )

Be careful. When I tried this it didn't quite work - I got a handful of comments, but a bunch were missing and the csv was obviously truncated. Others have reported similar results as well. See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/71867/Poll-Power-Delete-Suite-users-are-you-saving-your-content

I had another way of grabbing everything, see https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

abff08f4813c,

Power to you, mate! Let's go get 'em!

abff08f4813c,

We are tracking timelines on this here: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/50981/Reddit-Data-Retrieval-Request-timeline-thread

So far very few reports of folks actually getting anything.

abff08f4813c,

Great metaphor for reddit HQ's handling of the protests!

abff08f4813c,

To stop scrappers, offer the same pricing as API to anyone using the web version of reddit. (New or old doesn't matter.) Ordinary users have to pay, per thousand comments, to see reddit.

Actually, do the same thing with the official app (since folks could otherwise use it for free and take screenshots or something). But leave the ads in too.

Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure? (beehaw.org)

I was looking at reddit today, and the front-page felt like nothing happened. I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and clicked into comments. Everything is popping off buzzing with activity. All the subreddits I was subscribed to that went dark are now back up and business as usual....

abff08f4813c,

The other thing to keep in mind is that looks can be deceiving. Reddit has had over half a month to clean up things like r/all from the fallout of the protests.

But my guess is, if you ask someone at reddit if it's now gone back to normal, well, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/112071/Reddit-protest-plunges-user-engagement-site-activity-and-ad-portal & https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/86420/Six-verified-Reddit-employees-discussing-the-current-atmosphere-at-the

Instead of deleting your Reddit account, consider using chatgpt to make comments instead

And make sure not to click on any links. If enough people use chatgpt or other LLM's to generate comments that are wordy but clearly just filler, it'll give advertisers pause and tank the value of the site as training data. Reddit's response will probably be to start banning users it thinks are doing this but normal users will...

abff08f4813c,

I'm fine with either approach honestly. Both remove the valuable human generated content from reddit so both are a strike against them in my book.

abff08f4813c,

Ditto!

abff08f4813c,

Thank you for your service! This is exactly what we need.

abff08f4813c,

A more nuanced explanation is available here, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/101759/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-413421

TLDR reddit might not be restoring data that the user deleted, but there are some funky cases where it's easy to miss stuff when deleting manually. Which is exactly why Update #1 is so bad - it's basically impossible to delete everything without reddit's help.

abff08f4813c,

Keep it up mods! It is working!

Any good scripts that will mass edit your reddit comments?

I want to change all my reddit comments to say I'm migrating to Lemmy/Kbin. I think this is more effective than deleting comments, as I've heard rumors reddit is restoring deleted comments. I can't find a good script to do that. What's everyone else using to do that? Thanks!...

abff08f4813c,

As others have said, PDS is a good choice as it avoids a need to use the API. (It does depend on old dot reddit dot com however, but that's not going away tomorrow.)

Do keep this in mind however, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/47320/PSA-If-you-have-more-than-1000-posts-more-than

In short you need to request and get the GDPR/CCPA archive from reddit to make sure you wipe everything. (Some folks can live with just wiping out their top posts and comments however, for which PDS is perfectly fine.)

The downside is that afaik there's no way to feed that archive to PDS. You'll need to use an API using script like shreddit to edit everything.

You can see what I did: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

If you do decide to put in a data retrieval request, there's a timeline tracker: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/50981/Reddit-Data-Retrieval-Request-timeline-thread

abff08f4813c,

Reddit admins using that "feature" to post under other usernames perhaps? I dunno if there's a way to check but I wouldn't be surprised if these folks were not actually subbed to the sub that they seem to care so much about.

abff08f4813c,

Thank you for your service! Right on!

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