afraid_of_zombies

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Hail the Omnissiah! Praise be to the machine-god.

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afraid_of_zombies,

“us”? Unions have always had issues with women. UAW once has a strike over hiring them.

afraid_of_zombies,

Are you saying what I said did not happen or are you downplaying it?

afraid_of_zombies,

UAW striked over woman working there yes or no?

afraid_of_zombies,

And? The Internet has taught me that forgiveness isn’t a thing.

afraid_of_zombies,

Liar.

afraid_of_zombies,

Are you saying what I said did not happen or are you downplaying it?

afraid_of_zombies,

We really start needing to draft into combat roles the families of leaders. There would have been no Vietnam war if John John was deployed

afraid_of_zombies,

About as mad as I get when I hear people calling the French Republic “France” or the United States of Mexico “Mexico”.

afraid_of_zombies,

He was still sending them money and I am not going into the Duetropaul argument since it proves nothing.

P.S. do you know what an argument from authority logical fallacy is? Especially since you are going against the grain with your dating of the Gospel of Thomas. Did you know that around 60% of polled Bible scholars believe the resurrection is a true literal historical event?

afraid_of_zombies,

Huh? There are 13 letters in the NT that are ascribed to Paul. Of them 7 modern scholarship thinks he wrote and the others are forgeries. It was a rampant problem in the Roman Empire people would write books under a different person’s name for revenge or other reasons. Some people believe however that there are still elements of Paul spoken word in the fake letters, I am on the fence about that.

It is kinda interesting to consider it. There are 27 books in the NT, and of them only 8 are written by the person who was ascribed as the author traditionally. So much for the Bible being a good source of knowledge about what was going on.

afraid_of_zombies,

See I like your work. I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism. Go ahead and publish already something already on the Gospel of Thomas. I will buy it if you do.

afraid_of_zombies,

No problem. Really anything from Bart Erhman would give you much more than you would ever want to know. Yes I disagree with the man on a few things but 99% of stuff we are in agreement on.

afraid_of_zombies,

Come on man. We have been over this. You can’t dump all this at once.

  1. Peter denying Jesus comes from Mark and Mark was advocating against the apostles pushing for Paul being the leader of the church. The central message of the story is the apostles didn’t get it. Heck Jesus is basically a stand in for Mark. All the interesting stuff happens on the non-jewish side of the Sea of Gallie. Which isn’t even a sea. He was trying to make Jesus in the image of Paul.
  2. As for the earlier layers we know what they were. The Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible. Elijiah mostly. Almost everything Mark says is right from there or the letters. For the very few things that aren’t I have no problem with an oral tradition but that doesn’t mean the oral tradition was accurate.
  3. As for why Mark ended the way it did (originally) I admit I am not sure. I can speculate that he was trying to diminish Mary but again this doesn’t matter. We know Paul was in Jerusalem and makes no mention of the tomb additionally he does say buried.

I am sorry but the evidence just isn’t there, which is why all 4 quests have failed.

Also yeah I get your hesitation. Do what you got to do. I am just saying I do respect your work on the Gospel of Thomas and would love if you put something out there. Help you as well, you can deal with actual scholars not amateurs like me who suck at Greek.

afraid_of_zombies,

No one can keep the facts straight about his life and evidence that should be there is missing.

afraid_of_zombies,

How much would be enough money to no longer be bitterly opposed? Be exact. The exact coinage needed.

Or you know you can drop this indefensible position that if there is a schism it means there was founder. Since again you have zero evidence of this theorem. I promise to let it die.

Thanks you for admitting the Mark was not writing the history of Jesus, he was writing the history of Paul. I am glad we agree that Mark said nothing about the historical Jesus.

afraid_of_zombies,
  1. No difficulty at all. John borrowed from Mark and altered the text. All of them did things like that. None of them were historians and all of them lied
  2. I didn’t say all of it. The public denials were a Mark invention to downplay Cephus.
  3. Glad you agree that the tomb narrative never happened. You are nearly there btw. Only 1% more and Jesus is gone completely.
  4. Quests for the historical Jesus. There have been 4.
afraid_of_zombies,

I am going to laugh my ass off if we ever find some letter talking about some albino Jewish magician street preacher getting crucified by Pilot.

afraid_of_zombies, (edited )

I am an ordinary person so the standards of evidence for my existence are very low. Even a minimum historical Jesus is an extraordinary claim that requires a precise sequence of events with multiple unrelated groups acting unusually. This is a big claim and needs more evidence.

Additionally if you asked me to tell my life story I can bring forth evidence of my claims. I have a birth certificate, a license, a diploma, a marriage license, utility bills, etc. So here I am a very insignificant person in human history and I can produce mountains of evidence for my existence. While your Messiah we only know about because of liars writing decades citing dreams as their source.

I will save you some time. All the Gospel writers were copying Mark and Mark was coping Elijiah and Paul. And Paul was having weird dreams about a celestial being. A copy of a copy of a copy with no original.

afraid_of_zombies,

Pretty sure you did say that. The best source we got for the guy you have admitted wasn’t even talking about him.

afraid_of_zombies,

Miners

afraid_of_zombies,

Wow I could travel so many furloughs in that time period.

afraid_of_zombies,

Yes very much so. There was this bakery I would go to when I was a teen who had the best chocolate chip cookies ever. The woman behind the counter stood taller than pretty much any woman I have ever seen and her obesity made me wonder how she could even stand.

afraid_of_zombies,

Well I was in catering the owner was the taster and he didn’t smoke and drank only luke warm espresso in one gulp. I know because he explained it to me many times.

afraid_of_zombies,

Work 18 hours, spend it on blow, crash in the alley by the dumpsters, wake up, work another 18 hours.

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