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Apparently it built from a tropical storm to a Cat 5 in about 24 hours.

correct, and it did so with very little prior warning. already footage from the area is catastrophic–in the history of Mexico, there’s never been a hurricane this powerful making landfall from the Pacific.

Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

the front page is now like half articles on this currently, so it’s probably time for a megathread because none of us want to keep track of 12 threads on this subject and all the resulting comments. only major subsequent developments (for example, boots on the ground; pronunciations by governments; that sort of stuff) will get...

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fyi: if you’d like a vetted cause to donate to, people are fundraising for Palestine Children’s Relief Fund which is one of the best charities i’m aware of that does relief work in Gaza and puts basically all of the money given to them toward actual work and not salaries or overhead.

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The Palestinians should demand an election.

may i ask why is it your presumption they haven’t been doing this?

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this is effectively saying “all Palestinians deserve to be killed because of who their leadership is” which is not really acceptable.

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briefly locking this thread to do some cleanup; it’ll be unlocked again in a moment.

edit: unlocked

alyaza,
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for what it’s worth i think we’ve about exhausted what can be said on this topic past your own comment; i don’t think further responses between you and @khalic will really go anywhere and i’ve already nuked a bunch of the discussion downthread because it devolved completely.

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leave it to Charlie Hebdo to place themselves firmly in the “dumb take” camp

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the fact that they were victims of terrorism as a publication does not suddenly exempt them from having dumb takes, and bluntly their “satire” is often far closer to actual islamophobia than humor.

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the sheer number of Israeli civilian fatalities is staggering. so far the best count only has 80 or so of the dead being military or police and so the rest of the 600 and counting are presumably civilians.

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the primary reason Hamas has political power and the political support to attack Israel in this manner is because Israel:

  • treats all Palestinians as second-class citizens and subjects them to a system of political, social, and economic apartheid
  • holds millions of Palestinians in squalid and inhuman conditions, and seizes the territory of millions more in the name of a violent settler project
  • subjects the vast majority of Palestinians to state-sponsored discrimination, terror, indiscriminate bombing, and political violence
  • leaves Palestinians no feasible democratic path to the rights they should have in their current state or the state of Israel, making armed struggle inevitable

you can and should condemn Hamas, but it is inarguable that Israel routinely does worse—overwhelmingly to people just as innocent as the ones Hamas is murdering—which is what makes attacks like this inevitable. you cannot do what Israel does and not expect the outcome to be violence, and it is incumbent on Israel, who holds all the actual power in this dynamic, to break the cycle and stop using every terrorist attack perpetuated against it as an excuse to roll innocent heads.

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Cool so I respond to an antisemite saying that Israel refusing to supply power to a state that just declared war on it is punitive, and your response was to say it’s Israel’s fault.

i mean, yeah. Netanyahu is saying he’s going to basically reduce Gaza to rubble when 99% of Gazans are innocents and can’t leave Gaza because Israel is blockading them. Israeli bombs have killed far more innocents than actual terrorists in the Strip as seen in my citation. this is the exact behavior that allows Hamas to thrive. Israel, as a state, has the power to not do this and to seek more productive options—but does it anyways because it simply doesn’t care about the humanity of Palestinians and considers all of them acceptable collateral damage in killing Hamas members.

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