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internet gryphon. admin of Beehaw, mostly publicly interacting with people. nonbinary. they/she

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as i recall, the leadership of Israel has also ruled out an independent Palestinian state and a two-state solution, so i’m not sure why it’s news to the Times of Israel that Hamas doesn’t want one either. it’s clearly not advantageous to either party

Iran, child bride and year-long victim of domestic violence Samira Sabzian who killed her 'husband' has been been executed in Ghezelhesar Prison (www.iranhr.net)

Samira was a child bride married at 15 and a victim of domestic violence. She had two young children, one a new-born baby, when she was arrested and had not seen her children in ten years. She saw them for the first and last time when they came to the prison to say goodbye....

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absolutely fuck off with this bigotry

alyaza,
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you literally just had a protracted argument with me, an admin who determines what gets removed or not, in another thread over Israel and that was not removed. you have another pro-Israel set of comments in this thread that have not been removed even though i personally think they’re even less defensible than what you were arguing with me. i don’t know how you can seriously attempt to make this point.

alyaza,
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this is going to be locked for a variety of reasons:

  1. this is essentially propaganda/an extremely biased opinion piece
  2. it uncritically adopts the framing of Elise Stefanik when she is neither a good faith actor generally, nor asking questions about “calling for the genocide of the Jews” in good faith. it’s very clear she just means “pro-Palestinian demonstrators” when she talks about people “calling for genocide” and that’s stupid.
  3. it’s just not a good article, generally. there are plenty of other, better articles that can be used as a vessel to talk about Israel-Palestine (including ones that have a pro-Israeli voice)
alyaza, (edited )
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this thread is so full of terrible, not-relevant, or just plain rule-breaking discourse across the board that we’ve decided to totally remove it, and that’s very disappointing because this is the first time we’ve had to do this to a thread. let’s please not do this again.

alyaza,
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the sheer scale here strikes me as unsurprising in Spain given the mount of power it had in the country for most of the 1900s and the authorities governing the country. perfect recipe for incredible amounts of unreported and unprevented sexual abuse.

Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

the front page is now like half articles on this currently, so it’s probably time for a megathread because none of us want to keep track of 12 threads on this subject and all the resulting comments. only major subsequent developments (for example, boots on the ground; pronunciations by governments; that sort of stuff) will get...

alyaza,
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fyi: if you’d like a vetted cause to donate to, people are fundraising for Palestine Children’s Relief Fund which is one of the best charities i’m aware of that does relief work in Gaza and puts basically all of the money given to them toward actual work and not salaries or overhead.

alyaza,
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kicking things off: Israel is creating a shit ton of collateral damage. MSF says they’re being given just hours to evacuate their patients in Gaza before bombing continues:

it’s also just come out that an Israeli strike in Lebanon killed a Reuters journalist:

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this is also a kind of insane detail to how bad the Israeli government has been handling the situation so far: The president of the United States has spoken with the families of Israelis whose loved ones are being held captive in Gaza. The prime minister of Israel has yet to do so. Make of it what you will.

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NBC News now reporting the following: Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa’ad, to “kill as many people as possible,” seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.

alyaza,
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The Palestinians should demand an election.

may i ask why is it your presumption they haven’t been doing this?

alyaza,
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go away.

alyaza, (edited )
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briefly locking this thread to do some cleanup; it’ll be unlocked again in a moment.

edit: unlocked

alyaza,
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leave it to Charlie Hebdo to place themselves firmly in the “dumb take” camp

alyaza,
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the sheer number of Israeli civilian fatalities is staggering. so far the best count only has 80 or so of the dead being military or police and so the rest of the 600 and counting are presumably civilians.

alyaza,
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the primary reason Hamas has political power and the political support to attack Israel in this manner is because Israel:

  • treats all Palestinians as second-class citizens and subjects them to a system of political, social, and economic apartheid
  • holds millions of Palestinians in squalid and inhuman conditions, and seizes the territory of millions more in the name of a violent settler project
  • subjects the vast majority of Palestinians to state-sponsored discrimination, terror, indiscriminate bombing, and political violence
  • leaves Palestinians no feasible democratic path to the rights they should have in their current state or the state of Israel, making armed struggle inevitable

you can and should condemn Hamas, but it is inarguable that Israel routinely does worse—overwhelmingly to people just as innocent as the ones Hamas is murdering—which is what makes attacks like this inevitable. you cannot do what Israel does and not expect the outcome to be violence, and it is incumbent on Israel, who holds all the actual power in this dynamic, to break the cycle and stop using every terrorist attack perpetuated against it as an excuse to roll innocent heads.

alyaza,
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Cool so I respond to an antisemite saying that Israel refusing to supply power to a state that just declared war on it is punitive, and your response was to say it’s Israel’s fault.

i mean, yeah. Netanyahu is saying he’s going to basically reduce Gaza to rubble when 99% of Gazans are innocents and can’t leave Gaza because Israel is blockading them. Israeli bombs have killed far more innocents than actual terrorists in the Strip as seen in my citation. this is the exact behavior that allows Hamas to thrive. Israel, as a state, has the power to not do this and to seek more productive options—but does it anyways because it simply doesn’t care about the humanity of Palestinians and considers all of them acceptable collateral damage in killing Hamas members.

alyaza,
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yep. Energy Minister Yisrael Katz has signed an order instructing the Israel Electric Corporation to halt the supply of electricity to the Gaza Strip. i suspect this is the beginning of many, many punitive measures to come as reprisal

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