commie

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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

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commie,

You don’t have any options here that supports Palestine.

cornel west.

commie,

I’m going to vote, I just haven’t decided whether it will be for cornel west or jill stein

commie,

ballots don’t stop bullets

What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

For starters, you can add weather stripping to outside-facing doors and windows. If your landlord doesn’t want to pay for it, then it can be found cheaply on aliexpress. Also, add insulation outside-facing switch covers and outlet plates.

commie, (edited )

buying plants or meat, local or transported doesn’t have an impact: it’s all in the production.

commie,

whole corn and soybean are some of the primary cattle feed. The majority of all soybean grown in North America is used as cattle feed and corn is a large market segment.

can you cite any sources for that?

commie,

meat production uses far more land than plant-based alternatives

making food is a good use of land.

commie,

if that’s true (i’m dubious) then you should be finding an effective way to curb production.

commie,

i was asking because i can explain the methodology, and it is dubious.

if you total all the inputs that go into a product (the water, the carbon emissions, the land use, etc), then you can see what it would cost to produce it if you made no other products. but that’s not actually the environment in which meat dairy and eggs are produced.

the most illustrative example is cotton. cotton is not a food. it is grown for textiles. it wrecks the soil and it is THIRSTY. after you harvest the cotton and separate the fiber from the stalk and seed, you have seed left over. way more seed than you need to replant. cottonseed can be and is pressed for oil, but it takes much less processing to mix it into cattle fodder. why should the water used to grow cotton count against the water inputs for beef and milk? it’s actually a conservation of resources. these industries are all interconnected, and trying to just put a singular value on every product in the absence of the context of its production is not actually useful in determining what would be ecologically responsible.

commie,

can you explain the methodology?

commie,

buying beans is not an effective way to reduce meat production

commie,

do you own bolt cutters?

commie,

a lot of what we give to animals as feed is parts of plants we can’t or won’t eat,like silage. if we grow and use the part of the plant we want,and we can reclaim some more of the resources through animals,that’s good.

commie,

most cows mostly eat grass for most of their lives. whole corn is fed as a treat to entice them to eat the rest of the silage it’s sprinkled on (in my experience).

commie,

by what metric?

commie,

by what metric, and using what methodology?

commie,

that graphic shows that the feed that is given to animals is almost entirely the industrial waste from oil production. it’s called “soy meal” or “soy cake”

commie,

https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

looks to me like cattle get very little of the global soy crop, and most of what is fed to livestock is, as i said, the parts of the plant left over after we’ve taken what we want for ourselves.

commie,

instead of platitudes, maybe you could provide some facts about cattle diets. maybe a link from the USDA or FAO.

commie,

Judging by the other comments and profile, it’s clear that you’re not trying to have a discussion in good faith and may be a troll

this is poisoning the well and name-calling. what i said is true, whether you want to engage with it or not.

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