commie

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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

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I know the majority opinion is not to do it for various reasons, but basically I started to backup the majority of my dvd collection that I created over the years since I have the time and they were just collecting dust. Turns out though I guess I’m doing it “wrong” or at least not in the original quality since I used...

commie,

so maybe you should stop lying to people about being vegan helping the planet.

commie,

what makes you think you can tell anything about my emotional state?

commie,

It does, if enough people did it.

do you have a plan to make that happen? how many people is enough?

commie,

youre lying

everything i’ve said is true. you are the one who seems to want to bend reality to match your beliefs.

commie,

If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

i’ve provided exactly as much data as you have.

commie,

ourworldindata.org/…/Global-soy-production-to-end…

i can’t click your paywalled link

here’s what the UN’s FAO says

oil is 17.2%. since a soybean is only about 20% oil to begin with, you need to crush 85% of all soybeans to get that much oil. do you see how the vast majority of what is fed to animals is called “soy meal” or “soy cake”? that’s the industrial waste from processing soybeans to oil.

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commie, (edited )

Less meat produced = better.

that hasn’t happened

commie,

Try a different browser.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUjeR01wnU

commie,

I guess large scale veganism still only removes loads of industrial processes/co2 production, unspeakable animal abuse and insane amounts - and i mean ludicrous amounts - of wasted drinking water.

that has never happened.

commie,

Tiny niche doesnt stop global trend. Who knew?

you’re the one telling people being vegan will help, but now you’re admitting it doesn’t. you should just go edit the comments where you lied about this and apologize to the people who might have been misled.

commie,

you can make any excuse you want. the fact is that being vegan has not helped the environment at all.

commie,

Reducing global meat production would be a net benefit to the planet and every being living on it in the long term.

that’s true. what you said before was not.

commie,

Reducing demand for said production at a large scale WOULD (this is in conjunctive because it’s still a small movement so IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET - we all know that) over time force said production to scale down.

that’s not causal.

commie,

Literally no human i have ever interacted with before you thought not buying a steak for a few months instantly fixes the world.

i never said that.

commie,

it’s not a nirvana fallacy. they’re actually right, being vegan has no impact at all. a peace treaty actually creates peace. buying beans just means beans are sold, it doesn’t do anything to change any of the problems.

commie, (edited )

but beef, chicken, and pork continue to be made in increasing amounts. things are getting worse despite the fact that vegans exist. being vegan doesn’t help the planet at all.

commie,

what crops that are fed to beef chicken and pork are parts of plants that people won’t eat for the most part. The same fields that grow the soybeans we use for oil are growing soybeans that are used as feed. The same soybeans that are used for oil are used for feed.

commie,

make any excuse you like for why being vegan doesn’t help.

commie,

strawmen? not really. it’s exhausting dealing with intellectual dishonesty.

commie,

it’s not like we’d be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren’t for cattle.

I don’t think there is a better use than making food. I’m fine with that.

commie,

when someone takes you at your word, and then you need to walk back your position to a much weaker claim because they point out that you are writing checks the facts don’t support, it’s you who is practicing intellectual dishonesty. compounding it with strawmen, and then rhetorically implying it is, in fact, the person who called you out who is being dishonest is the height of intellectual dishonesty. you should be ashamed, and you should edit the comments where you lied so as not to continue to mislead other users.

commie,

you keep waffling about whether you lied, but I assure you, you did. you’ve even owned up to it earlier in the thread, but now you’re backsliding.

commie,

this is deflection

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