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The earlier post

The term I assume this post refers to (it took me a minute)

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It’s used for the Firefox brand of products

where?

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💯

this is way more beautiful than i expected. amazing work!

to everyone reporting this post as “malware”: 🤣 it really isn’t.

(i read it carefully before running it… if you don’t comprehend something like this, refraining from running it is a good choice.)

edit: lmao at the downvotes! For fun I ported it to Python… this version produces identical output to the original, but stops after a couple thousand seconds instead of running forever. and it is sadly 36 bytes longer.

(maybe the python version helps convince a few people it isn’t malware?)

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they had offspring. there was a peer-reviewed paper published about it in 2018.

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it’s weird how this gist was updated 3 hours ago but still contains lots of claims that haven’t been accurate for years

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oh cool, if Edward Snowden did it I guess software freedom isn’t important anymore 🙄

But seriously, did he? which one? I’m not familiar with that.

But even if he did release something under one, I would be extremely surprised if he called a non-free license “open source” as FUTO is doing here.

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I can understand why someone would say open source

I can understand why too: it’s either because they were not aware of the widely agreed-upon definition of the term, or because they’re being disingenuous. I’m assuming it was the former; whether OP edits the post will reveal if it was actually the latter.

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It isn’t about the list of approved licenses, it’s about the criteria for being added to the list. New licenses regularly meet the definition. This license clearly does not.

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there is no single universally agreed upon definition

There is an overwhelmingly agreed-upon definition. Look at who agrees with it: opensource.org/authority/

And who doesn’t agree? Historically, a few of the giant software companies who were threatened by the free software movement thought that “open source” was a way for them to talk the talk without walking the walk. However, years ago, even they all eventually agreed about OSI’s definition and today they use terms like source-available software for their products that don’t meet it.

Today it is only misinformed people like yourself, and grifters trying to profit off of the positive perception of the term. I’m assuming Louis Rossman is in the former category too; we’ll see in the near future if he acknowledges that the FUTO license is not open source and/or relicenses the project under an open source license.

there are over 80 variations of open source licenses all with different term and conditions. Some are more permissive, some less so. Yet they can all be considered a variation of open source, though I’m anticipating you wouldn’t agree?

There are many open source licenses, and many non-open-source licenses. there is a list of licenses which OSI has analyzed and found to meet their definition; licenses which aren’t on that list can be open source too… but to see if they are, you would need to read the license and the definition.

Have you read The Open Source Definition? I’m assuming not.

I can’t understand why you are acting like the definition police here, it seems very pedantic tbh.

It’s because (1) FUTO are deceiving their customers by claiming that their product is something which it isn’t, and (2) they’re harming the free and open source software movements by telling people that terms mean things contrary to what they actually mean.

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since you copy+pasted this wall of confused text to me in 3 different places I guess I’ll reply here too, in the not-deleted thread: opensource.org/authority/ (this is not even a controversial topic)

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deviating slightly from pure open source principles

saying that prohibiting redistribution is just “deviating slightly from pure open source principles” is like saying that a dish with a bit of meat in it is just “deviating slightly” from a vegetarian recipe.

if you saw a restaurant labeling their food as vegetarian because their dishes were based on vegetarian recipes, but had some meat added, would you say that it seems like their intentions are good?

to protect their users from scammy clones

As I said in another comment, the way free open source software projects should (and can, and do) generally do this is using trademark law. He could license it under any free software license but require derivatives to change the name to avoid misleading or confusing users. This is what Firefox and many other projects do.

TBH we’re not really into strictly following the letter of the law in the pirate community

In the video announcing the project Louis Rossmann explicitly says he intends to vigorously enforce this license. Since it is a copyright license, the only ways of actually enforcing it are to send DMCA takedowns and/or sue people for copyright infringement.

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(from this video which also features him operating guillotine)

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I really thought it was another Expanse meme.

it is.

I guess they meant STV is related because its plot involves religion.

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i should’ve realized that

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oh great, yet another platform that will use free software to restrict what people can do with their computing devices 🤮

how is this supposed to be a good thing? 🙄

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Dala and Mobar impersonating Janeway and Tuvok at Telsius Prime

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I came across this blog - What is systemd and Why Should I Care?

A 2014 blog post by someone with the bio “Software Engineer at Microsoft, currently working on Outlook for iOS” should not be a significant influence on the choices you are making about your usage of GNU/Linux in 2023 :)

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counterpoint: don’t not

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there is /c/weiqi@lemmy.ml (no posts this year) and /c/baduk@lemmy.ml (many posts this year but none in the last 3 months)

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