theshatterstone54

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theshatterstone54,

Well, I upvoted your response as well because there’s a lot I agree with.

However:

You’ve to deal with two major half-assed desktop environments

Simple. Ignore them Both!!! Why should they follow the same UI and design guidelines as either of them or work to be well-integrated with either? Last I checked, OnlyOffice and Chromium both are not following either of them. Just do your own thing and that’s fine. Last time I used Adobe products, their UI wasn’t like Windows 10 OR Windows 11. It was a different vibe entirely.

Outside of UI elements, that’s what universal packaging formats like Flatpak with Portals are trying to address. The application lives in its own container/sandbox and doesn’t give a fuck about your DE or any of that.

Both worked just fine

Yeah, I’m 99% sure that would not happen on Linux. As in, both these specific pieces of software working just fine, but also ancient software that “just works” on modern systems. Unless of course, we’re talking about universal packages that will probably still work 10, 20, or 30 years down the line.

Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)

Because it sure as hell ain’t perfect. I wish it was, but it is not there and I’m not sure when it will be (if ever). There is some software that is Windows only and there are no alternatives for it. An example I personally deal with is AutoHotKey. A game I play practically requires Macroing at a certain level and THE macro made for it is written in AHK and is so advanced that it will likely never be ported to anything else. I even experimented with creating a proof-of-concept to see if it can be done in Python with Pyautogui and image detection didn’t work. Pixel detection did but it was just too goddamn slow. But I digress.

I’m not sure Windows will handle itself correctly even with that

It usually does for me.

That’s because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 significantly worse.

They did, but that’s not the only reason Linux will be better than Windows. Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.

I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all.

So do I.

the absurdly funded and inept Gnome team… their messed up view of a DE

Please forgive me for not checking the link before responding, but I already agree with the statements you make about GNOME. Maybe I’ll check the link out for fun after I write this.

I completely agree with the points you made about Office.

This isn’t true. Microsoft has all the spyware very well documented

Wow. That’s new. I genuinely didn’t know that. I’ll have to keep that in mind.

You should try MacOS for a month or so because their DE is better than GNOME.

The second part isn’t surprising. The first part is something I will consider. I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow so I never touched it again. I’m too broke to afford Apple Hardware and don’t have spare cash even for preowned stuff. I’ll check if my university’s CS dept (where I’m studying) has any Mac machines I can try out.

On the short rant about GNOME, I pretty much agree. And going back to a previous point you made: both DEs suck in their own ways.

On containerized apps, they are still pretty new. I’m hoping they become good, but the idea of a Single DE for Linux is not something I ever expect to happen. Maybe if the distros get their shit together and realise GNOME sucks and then start financially supporting KDE instead so that Plasma finally irons out the bugs and UX issues to become the dominant DE (because let me tell you: KDE is poor, and they shouldn’t be if they ever want Plasma to become the major DE and finally rid us of GNOME).

This video is bullshit

I apologise. I’m not familiar with MacOS, the video is old, and I haven’t watched it in ages, I just so happened to remember about it when writing my response.

theshatterstone54,

Hey there, what tool do you use to find power usage? Thanks

theshatterstone54,

I’ve recently reached the point where I could barely afford some of them… if they were as good as they were a year ago. Seems I’m sticking to the Seven Seas and my downloaded music library.

theshatterstone54,

Honestly, depending on whether you count it or not, LFS. I have not tried Gentoo yet, though I want to one day, for the learning experience, and yet I already know that compiling everything is not something I enjoy.

I can get by with OpenSUSE and Void (kinda), I’ve used Debian for a few weeks, I’ve used Fedora for a month or so, I’ve used Ubuntu for a bit, I’ve tried PopOS for a week or two, I’ve used NixOS for a few months, and I’ve used Arch for most of my time on Linux.

Currently I’m on Arch, but I don’t like rolling releases that much. At the same time, I am also not a fan of immutability, as there are some programs I need that cannot be installed on an immutable distro, so that’s why I’m on Arch. Why am I only using these 2? Because they are the only distros that have all the packages I need (excluding the specialist software that I need for university). By the time I discovered Distrobox (which would solve this problem), I was already on Arch. I’ve also done some changes to my setup and as such, I’ll need to wait for some new features to make their way into program releases and into the NixOS Stable repo with the following release. Until then, I’m on Arch.

theshatterstone54,

How many more PRs/MRs left? And when will it be available via wine staging? I can’t wait to try Wayland gaming on Hyprland! I’ve moved everything else over to it already

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, thank you for doing such a good explanation of it. I completely agree. Truth be told, the features I missed with Qtile on Wayland (some bugs that took a while to iron out, and are only fixed in qtile-git, as well as rounded corners, which are a work-in-progress, leaving me with only 1 issue with Qtile, that being how difficult Qtile Wayland is to install and set up, if only there was a working guide for doing so via pip, but pywayland and/or pywlroots via pip are usually broken), were all fixed by Hyprland, so I’m on Hyprland full time now, and I love it! There is only one minor issue I have (drop downs from Waybar’s systray are kinda broken on Hyprland, rendering weirdly, with strange black gaps between sections and rendering under, rather than over, windows).

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, I’ve been using systemd-boot for over 6 months, close to a year, and I’ve never had issues with Windows. And I’ve been dualbooting a lot. Multiple times, using different windows editions, like AtlasOS, or Windows after Winutil, and my sytem has never broken because of Windows and boatloader shenanigans. And to top it all off, in all of these instances, I had Windows installed AFTER Linux, and the only tbing I had to fix after install is to change the boot order so Systemd-boot takes priority.

theshatterstone54, (edited )

Yup. So true. I haven’t paid for films or series ever full stop (although I have used a streaming service my parents have paid for a few times), and the only times I’ve paid for games was when I’ve bought them from a second-hand reseller (and often sold them back to that reseller).

When it comes to donating however, after forgetting for so many months, I finally pulled the trigger on a donation to an Open Source project I use almost every day, qtile (Link: github.com/qtile/qtile )

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, that IS the real one, it seems. It asks for random package name, and it immediately installed as an LSPosed module.

theshatterstone54,

I’m having a hard time finding the actual lucky patcher. Was it at .com or .info or something else? Please help

theshatterstone54,

Because it is the replacement for Xorg and X11 as a whole. This is like expecting all Unix applications to work on Linux. No, some things need to be ported or rewritten. I don’t want to force adoption of Wayland. Heck, I’m on Xorg because Qtile’s Wayland session is missing a thing or two I need (they’re in development but not there yet). I’m just tired of people pretending this article is accurate and up to date so I wanted to set some things clear. Granted, I didn’t do it that well, but I tried.

Also, whoever calls Wayland X12 is lying to themselves and everyone else. The only way in which such naming would make sense is if you consider the fact that the X11 maintainers (pretty much all of them RedHat employees) were sick and tired of maintaining it, so they started Wayland to replace X11 (NOT as a drop in replacement, mind you). So the only way such naming wpuld make sense is if you consoder the fact that Wayland developers and maintainers were the same people that were maintaining Xorg until they just gave up.

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, I don’t know about Java. I often switch between X and Wayland myself, but I’m mostly on X because I use a tiling window manager (Qtile) which has a Wayland version but is still ironing out some issues before I can switch full time.

theshatterstone54,

I didn’t have a great experience

Neither did I. I use Qtile, and I’m waiting for some things on Wayland to improve. It’s close, but not there yet.

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, but I’m on firefox and I’m happy. I have basically 0 issues. If I was on Brave, I would have still had to worry about disabling the crypto crap as well.

theshatterstone54,

Okay, I will check out Floorp. That project seems really interesting.

How to install Skyrim

I downloaded the game files, mounted the .iso files and added the game to setup.exe to my steam library and installed the game under the mountpoint. When i click play in steam i just get back to the installer. Running the SkyrimSe.exe in steam(located in the CODEX directory) doesnt work. I use Arch Linux.

theshatterstone54, (edited )

Tell me you haven’t touched Linux gaming in the last few years without directly saying it.

YES. Some games don’t always work via Proton. Proton is Steam’s compatibility layer. That’s how the Steam deck works. It’s based on Arch and uses Proton to make Windows games work on Linux.

theshatterstone54,

Okay, so: 2 questions:

  1. Do you dislike/hate Systemd, Poettering, or both? And does one stem from the other?
  2. What exactly makes Poettering crooked? Working for M$? So you’re telling me if Torvalds accepted the job offer from Jobs to work at Apple, he would be crooked too?
theshatterstone54,

I use Arch and hate Elon, but that’s beside the point. I’m just trying to understand wby you hate Poettering, and why you hate Systemd?

theshatterstone54,

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you hate the project, don’t hate on the developer. Poettering has made a project that is universally considered an improvement to the Linux desktop space. You don’t like it? There are other projects out there. The Linux space is one of those spaces where there are always alternatives. You don’t like MS Office Online? Use LibreOffice? You don’t like that either? There is only office and others? You don’t like the direction Firefox is heading in? Use Brave. You don’t want to use Chromium because you want to prevent the domination of their browser engine? Use Librewolf. All the above applies to you, and you have simple browsing needs? Use Epiphany. You don’t like GNOME but love vim and keyboard-driven setups? Use qutebrowser or vimb (yes, there is a browser named vimb, vim with a b at the end). The point is, there is choice. You don’t like Arch because it uses systemd? Use Artix. You like runit which you used with Artix but you want more stable software? Use Void. You liked openrc instead? Use Devuan or Alpine. You don’t mind compiling from source? Use Gentoo. You want something FSF-approved? Use Guix. You like the ideas behind Guix but got tired of the software freedom stuff? Use NixOS (oh wait, that one uses systemd).

Point is, there is choice in the Linux world. It’s one of rhe things we’re famous on. You don’t like a project? Use something else. You want to share your experience and reasoning as to why you don’t like a project? Go ahead, I’d love to read about it. But looking down on and insulting developers for projects they have made, for their contributions and improvements they have brought to the space, whether you agree with them or not, is not right. People should be applauded for improving Linux. Most of them do it in their free time and do not get paid for it (not sure if Poettering started systemd as a part of his job at RedHat or in his free time, though). What I’m saying is, share your opinion on the project, and move on. If someone asks you to elaborate, you’re welcome to do so. Just don’t get the dev involved. I don’t hear of people abandoning Hyprland because of some controversial things Vaxry has said (I can no longer recall what he said exactly but I remember hearing something hadistribution).

Anyways, I’m just wasting one of, if not THE most precious resource of our lives: my time, so I’ll be wrapping up here. If you have any responses, I might read them if I get around to it, and if I find it meaningful, I might post a response. For now, I wish you all the best in your endeavours, whatever they may be, and I hope that some of the examples I gave above can be useful in guiding you towards finding a systemd-free distribution, if you choose to do so. Cheers.

theshatterstone54,

Also I’m not sure about slow startup times. Are those still an issue? If so, then I would be sure to considet Ubuntu dead and not only not recommend it but actively recommend switching away from it.

theshatterstone54,

So are you talking about, like NixOS and Guix, where they are based on a paclage manager?

theshatterstone54,

Okay, I get it now. So transactional is in regards to reproducible builds (like the config file approach taken by NixOS and Guix)

theshatterstone54,

I find it more intuitive, if that makes sense.

theshatterstone54,

This is an article from itsfoss. Why read a copelied version here when we can read the full original version here: itsfoss.com/why-use-nixos/

theshatterstone54,

If you need a game when you get to it, a game I’ve had in my sights is AC: Pirates. It’s a small mobile AC game inspired by AC4: Black Flag. There are plenty of mods for it, but there isn’t a “free purchases” mod that would allow you to purchase the best ship in the game. I’ve looked. So if you need a project in the mobile space, that’s one you can go for.

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