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wfh,

Thank you <3

wfh,

Thank you for your feedback!

I’m enriching this guide with the info you provided :)

wfh,

Sorry, the goal here was to offer a few sensible alternatives, not overwhelm the reader with choices. The gist here is “start with something solid, reputable and popular, branch out later”.

Too much choices lead to analysis paralysis, and to goal here is to learn how to swim first. There are dozens of great distros, probably more than half of that worthy to be on this list, as there are dozens of great DEs, probably more than half of that worthy to be on this list.

Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is

Don’t get me wrong. Hyprland is great. I like it a lot. It looks fresh, it’s easy to configure and the keybindings are super easy to implement, but it’s also very barebones. Most of the functionality expected from a DE come from external software. Be it a top bar, an app launcher, a notification daemon or anything else....

wfh,

True.

wfh,

Exactly. KDE people praise its flexibility and tweakability, but I feel it tries to cater at too many use cases at once, and looks much harder to maintain as it always felt buggy and a bit janky to me.

Gnome devs may have very strong opinions and that seems to anger some people, but their approach is actually the best for small teams: focus on a single use case, make it as polished as possible, and let users develop extensions to cater to their own use cases.

wfh,

Oh nice, I like it. Although a few minutes with it and it’s starting to look suspiciously like my Gnome setup :D

Also, the tray doesn’t seem to work on my machine, probably some missing dependency.

wfh,

True. Although this post is less a comparison of the two than a renewed appreciation of what makes Gnome fantastic, especially the QOL parts taken for granted for so long ;)

wfh, (edited )

Haha I’ve already been using Forge for weeks :D

I like the concept of it, but it lacks Hyprland’s smoothness.

wfh,

SO. MANY. STAR. TREK. MEMES.

wfh,

I’ve been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems.

Wow, incredible management skills, genius move to treat your one critical employee like a piece of shit.

wfh,

Ergo mouse. Best of both worlds.

wfh,

I call mine “rillettes de thon” or “rillettes de sardines” depending on which canned fish I put in them. Also, I love to twist them with chopped cilantro, chopped shallots and lime juice or smoked paprika (pimientón de la Vera).

wfh,

This is the dystopian 80’s-cyberpunk future that I want!

wfh,

I wasn’t aware of the racism connotations nor the connections to car culture, as English is not my first language. I thought it was some unixporn inside joke and never questioned that term.

I’m sorry for using that term and have edited my message.

wfh, (edited )

From “too many damn Linux memes” to “look at my heavily modified desktop” in 72h, I’m proud of you my friend :D

Edit: removed racist term unknowingly used.

wfh,

De rien ;)

wfh, (edited )

I have almost the same laptop (PS63 8M, without any nVidia dGPU).

One of the issues I had to solve was the touchpad spamming interrupts after waking up from sleep. It would keep one core at 100% indefinitely, keeping CPU frequency (and temps) quite high and burning through the battery.

Here’s the fix: bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1865745#p1865…

This behavior seems fixed on modern kernels since I’ve installed Fedora recently and didn’t have to do this workaround, but you can still check if this still applies to you.

You might also check if you can disable the dGPU in the BIOS (can’t check since I don’t have one), and/or play with power profiles either through Gnome or tlp (lower power profiles will make your laptop very sluggish though).

Maybe check if both your fans are running. I had to replace one of mine that was starting to fail a year ago.

Other than that, I’ve never had any overheating issues with this laptop.

wfh,

No chance. Amazon has a long history of using a ton of FOSS code on AWS and contributing fuck-all.

Newbie with questions about Debian

I got an old Windows 7 laptop that was going to be thrown out and decided to put Linux on it (see previous thread here). Most people suggested I go with the latest stable version of Debian, so that’s what I installed. I’ve mostly used Windows, but I do have some experience with Ubuntu....

wfh,

Oh yes that’s probably it, flathub doesn’t support 32 bits architectures anymore.

Why did you choose this architecture? Almost all x86 CPU architectures from the last 20 years are 64 bits, you should reinstall using the AMD64 image. This will solve a lot of issues and insure you get the most of your hardware.

wfh,

I’d advise against using flatpaks if you also have the software available in the debian repositories. Always use the package manager instead, when possible.

Please let me disagree on this. Debian + Flatpaks is actually an awesome combo. Rock solid and super stable base, up to date user facing apps.

Debian’s life cycle is awesome for core system stuff, it ensures that once your system runs perfectly, it’ll continue to run perfectly for several years without intervention despite always being up to date.

But for user facing apps, it’s actually really frustrating when you know there is a bug fix or a feature you need that’s been implemented and made available months ago but you’re stuck on a 2-year-old version.

wfh,

What’s your CPU? 99% sure that w7 era CPUs are all 64 bits.

wfh,

Yeah it supports amd64 :)

Fun fact: AMD started out making licenced products based on of Intel’s x86 architecture, and in the early 2000s the roles were reversed when intel had to licence AMD’s 64 bits extension of this architecture.

aarch64 are for ARM processors like the one in your phone, mips64 are embedded processors most likely found in a car or a router.

wfh,

All your points are valid, and I agree with most of them except maybe advising people to use Testing ;)

From a security point of view, Testing is dead last in Debian’s vulnerabilities fix order of priorities after SID and Stable, and fixes in general except when the next release is being freezed. I’ve undergone breaking changes and regressions weekly on Testing, dependency issues that took forever to get fixed, and the year or so I’ve spent on Testing was miserable. Testing definitely has its purposes, but daily driving it on a laptop should not be one of them.

I understand the issues you’ve got concerning Flatpaks and how it goes against a distro’s philosophy, but I think, from a “normie”'s POV, it’s still miles better than the classic “download a random exe from a random website and never bother having to uninstall and reinstall it every week to keep it up-to-date” windows paradigm. Flatpaks are mainly a solution for developers and package maintainers (package once, distribute everywhere), but it benefits the end users. You get to use “the same version as everyone else”, always up-to-date whether you’re on Debian or on Arch, compiled against a known version of all dependencies so bug reports are more consistent and avoid weird distro-specific behaviors.

wfh, (edited )

I can’t figure out how to setup flatpak. Everything seems to be working fine until I enter the last line in the terminal:

Assuming you’ve installed flatpak correctly (sudo apt install flatpak gnome-software-plugin-flatpak)

in a terminal, type flatpak remotes. If it lists flathub, you’re good.

Try installing a random app like flatpak install flathub de.haeckerfelix.Shortwave

It shoud work. If it doesn’t, post your logs.

I have to type a password in the terminal every time I want to use sudo

This is the intended behavior and should not be changed, it’s a basic security feature. Once you’ve finished setting up you system, you shouldn’t need sudo everyday anyway, except for updating/upgrading the system.

I’m used to a desktop interface with a toolbar/start menu that I can pin frequently-used programs to, but with Debian it seems like I need to click “Activities” to do anything. Is there a way to set up the interface so it’s more like Windows in that regard?

Assuming you’re using Gnome, this is easy to solve using Extensions. First if it’s not installed already on Firefox, install Gnome Shell Integration. It’ll let you manage Gnome Extensions directly from extensions.gnome.org

Then, install dash-to-panel for a “windows-style” experience, or dash-to-dock for a “macos-style” experience.

After that, you can go wild on the extensions you want to use ;)

If I need to do a clean install, I’m thinking of switching to Ubuntu, since I’m more familiar with the interface.

Don’t. Ubuntu will teach you nothing but the Ubuntu way. Debian is as Standard Linux as conceivable. If your only concern is the Ubuntu-style interface, configuring dash to panel to appear on the left side is all you need.

wfh,

This is corporate-grade stuff. That’s why only Dell, HP and Lenovo bothered certifying their laptops. They hold an oligopoly for fleet laptops.

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