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Rozauhtuno, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ian Murdock, founder of Debian GNU/Linux and Debian manifesto. died too soon.

ACAB

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I never heard the acronym before.
also, you could say that in case of Aaron Swatrz too.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

What do people shout when they are hurt by police then?

beSyl,

Why are you saying that in relation to Ian? What do cops have to do with him?

robocall, to memes in One trash you can't get rid of
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

I was cleaning up my home, but now I’m too tired to make dinner!

psmgx, to memes in One trash you can't get rid of

Aka what happens when you listen to Jordan Peterson

NAXLAB, (edited ) to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?

Idk man we just saw a week ago how atrociously Linus used to treat people. Imagine combining that with enough greed to hold onto a billion dollars. Imagine what any of these people would be like if they were the type to ruthlessly exploit others to get rich. I think a billionaire Linus would be worse than Bill Gates. At least Gates is a nice guy.

It is the act of holding onto that much wealth that is immoral, not who is doing it. This is just fantasizing from a painfully neoliberal perspective: OP is imagining the world would be better if the good guys hoarded inconceivable amounts of wealth and exploited the labor of others.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have a question:
almost every single person that you know as a good guy may have a little but of an uncanny side. at which point does a person not remain an overall good person?

or do we take the person for who he/she is, and use(and learn from)his/her actions as an example, both good and bad ones?

I’m asking primarily because I don’t know an answer to it.

VubDapple,

I haven’t met gates and I agree these days he comes across pleasantly, but perhaps you are not old enough to remember stories of what he was like in his 30s and 40s when Microsoft was younger. He was a tyrant and viscously anticompetitive. As a husband my understanding is that he cheated on his wife (not uncommon I know but still hurtful). He might have become a somewhat better person, maybe, but he certainly wasn’t one when he was making his fortune.

NAXLAB,

Oh yeah I know how predatory of a businessman he was, I just assumed he did it politely.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have an unfavourable view of gates despite his philanthropic actions. mainly because of his buying of large farmlands and his opposition to freely licence astra zeneca’s vaccine.

avidamoeba, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

If they were billionaires, they likely wouldn’t be the people they are today.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I meant billionaires for their actions and creations, and not by birth like most techbros are.

Cralder,

That’s worse. You see how that is worse right?

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

yeah, now I do see that.

NAXLAB,

That seems worse because it means they went out of the way to get so rich, rather than just having it handed to them.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I was thinking more along the lines of “if they had that much money, their projects could’ve received more impact.”
like if free software would become mainstream.

though now I realise that’s an idealistic view and with money, people will become corrupt.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

If they received a lot of money from their work and they used it to increase the impact of their projects, they wouldn’t be billionaires. The money would have been spent on the projects. If Linus headed a non-profit that received 10B a year revenue and spent most of it, leaving Linus with 0.5M-1M yearly salary, he wouldn’t be a billionaire and the billions spent on the Linux project would have had a significant impact. If on the other hand he pocketed 1B a year, there would be 1B less for the Linux project. And Linus would have been/become a different person.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

then the lore of Linyos Torvoltos would’ve been true :p

NAXLAB,

I’d strongly disagree there too. Y’know basically the entire internet runs on Linux right? Our global communication system containing the sum of all human knowledge is like 99% Linux servers. And the reason a whole bunch of companies sponsor the hell out of Linux now is because it’s just that good and just that important on a global scale.

youpie, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?
@youpie@lemmy.emphisia.nl avatar

I dont want anybody to be a billionaire, also they couldn’t because to be one you have to be exploitative and a bad person

tygerprints,

That's not necessarily true. My cousin is the nicest person you could meet, he was a programmer who tinkered around with a package delivery tracking system, and Fexex bought him out for almost 2 billion. He became one of our wealthiest citizens overnight. And he's amazing, he doesn't exploit people and he is not a bad person by any definition.

owenfromcanada,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

Did he keep the 2 billion for himself?

I think the point is that anyone who gets and keeps that much money is not a good person. A billion dollars is more than any person could ever need for themselves. Consider that having a meager 10 million in the bank at a pitiful 2% return of interest would provide $200,000 per year, which is a very comfortable life. Who can justify keeping 100x that? And how can you justify it when a tiny fraction of that would revolutionize thousands of people’s lives?

hersh, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?

Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple.

I don’t think he was ever a billionaire, though he’s certainly done quite well for himself. Since leaving Apple, he has founded several new companies and projects, focusing a lot on education and philanthropy. He was also involved in founding the EFF.

He’s an engineer first and foremost, and several of his projects never achieved mainstream success, partly for being, IMHO, ahead of their time – for example, a programmable universal remote in the 80s, and a GPS-based item tracker in the early 2000s.

As far as I know, he has never been involved in any notable scandals.

turbodrooler,

At Apple’s IPO, Woz gave $10 million of his stocks to Apple employees. Jobs didn’t want to give any to employees. Seems like a good guy.

Kecessa, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?

There’s a whole bunch of people that deserve to become billionaires a lot more than people in tech and that would have a much better impact on the world if they did. I would much rather have a bunch of billionaire physicists, immunologists, virologists, pediatricians and so on.

yum_burnt_toast,
@yum_burnt_toast@reddthat.com avatar

that is a nice conundrum. almost like it is impossible to become a billonaire if the desire to benefit society is too high on your priority list.

empireOfLove, to linuxmemes in which ones do you think I missed?

But of course, such based individuals will never be billionaires. Specifically because their basedness precludes them from being psychopathic enough to commit the kind of cutthroat, violent exploitation of tens of thousands of workers’ labor inherently necessary to amass such wealth.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

when you put it that way, I realise how being so rich is anti to what most of these people are known for.

speaking of which, here’s a to-scale representation of how rich some people are.

drcouzelis, to linuxmemes in An apt quote for Terry the king
@drcouzelis@lemmy.zip avatar

Ohhhhh the creator of TempleOS? I thought you were referring to someone who died recently. 😅

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis

I used to love reading about his technical work, especially on osnews.com.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

were you thinking of bram moolenaar, the creator of vim?

he was not a king, but rather a benevolent dictator. :)

Technus, to science_memes in still worthy

Abstinence implies that using it is some sort of dirty pleasure…

rockerface,

We don’t kinkshame here

PeriodicallyPedantic, to memes in We must resist
AltheaHunter, to memes in We must resist

Mmmm blueberry muffins…

Frogmanfromlake, to memes in We must resist
@Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net avatar

This looks like one of those Tyrpophobia memes that used to get posted everywhere

tory, to memes in We must resist

Unfortunately, AI is quickly becoming better at this kind of thing than average humans are. And the internet is doomed for sure as a result.

We’re gonna be swimming in a sea of AI generated, convincing half truths and lies.

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