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Sanctus, to memes in Hey OpenAI
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Lmao they are 3D printing houses right now. We’re all jobless in the future, bud. Thats a good thing.

Strykker,

Have you seen a 3D printed house? They look like shit with their lumpy walls, and you still have to run all the plumbing power, and ventilation.

Nurse_Robot,

Yeah, technology will never continue to develop!

Dangdoggo,
@Dangdoggo@kbin.social avatar

Nobody is saying that but reading a headline that says "Construction company prints some walls!" and then saying "welp that's it they're out here just 3D printing whole ass buildings" is pretty uh... Dumb.

Nurse_Robot,

And the picture says “your skills are irreplaceable.” If you truly believe that basic construction is irreplaceable then I have bad news for you.

HauntedCupcake, (edited )

The point is that literally right now houses are not being 3D printed to a good enough standard that we would even think about replacing workers.

It is also true that technological progress will change that sooner or later.

I don’t think there’s a disagreement here

Dangdoggo,
@Dangdoggo@kbin.social avatar

I have bad news for you because it seems obvious you have never done basic construction: You're not replacing builders with computers any time soon.

Dangdoggo,
@Dangdoggo@kbin.social avatar

No they aren't :/ They can make bricks and 'print' walls, which is really just a cool way of pouring concrete. Hardly printing a house.

Kanda,

He thinks it’s a good thing

Netrunner,
@Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

He thinks we get universal welfare.

I think we get a bigger wealth gap and huge poverty.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

Once the elites have everything they need or want provided by AI and machines, we get death.

rwhitisissle,

I can only imagine 50 years from now, when climate crisis is in full swing, there are no more salaried jobs for people without extreme, cutting edge technological specializations or PhDs, and people are doing shit like menial servant work or acting as delivery drivers for 16 hours a day for the ultra wealthy just not to starve, you’ll have some 70 year old zoomer politician that introduces a bill to legalize prostitution in order to open up “new sources of income for struggling Americans” while quietly including a clause that effectively creates death camps for the poor. Conservative Americans will praise the bill on the basis that it’ll get rid of “welfare queens” and create more economic opportunities for the people who don’t get turned into Soylent Green.

50 years after that, America is littered with the hollowed out ghost towns of long abandoned suburbia. The coasts have been destroyed by flooding from the melted ice caps. Automated workers outnumber Americans 10 to 1. There are around 30 million Americans left in the continental United States. Almost all of them are literal slaves after slavery was re-legalized. Almost everything is owned by a handful of incredibly powerful families. Virtually everyone lives in or around Chicago. Whatever hope people once had for a better future is a long distant dream of a bygone era as the world slowly dies and the people who are left simply persist without ever truly living.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

Virtually everyone lives in or around Chicago.

And hilariously, everyone is still paying the Saudis for parking.

nolight,

There are more of “us” than “them”.

DeepGradientAscent,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

There is a danger. The select few of “us” who are “more equal” will become “them”.

How do you think slavery sustains itself? A few slaves get to become slave-masters when the old masters die.

I guess it boils down to the age old questions of what is the value of a human life, and who gets to decide what laws we base upon the answer to the first question.

nolight,

What I meant was that “they” can not just simply erase “us” from existence once we stop providing them enough value, I believe in a revolution of some kind if such practices were to be tried.

Though I do not believe it would be rational nor beneficial for the elites at the first place, I was just pointing out that there is little chance of that happening.

rwhitisissle,

There were more natives in the Americas and Caribbean when the European settlers arrived, too. Only one side had way more advanced military technology and no scruples around genocide and slavery.

PolandIsAStateOfMind, to memes in I'm going to have the coolest dustrunner ever
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Nah, in case of apocalypse we are gonna be in the the 99% of skeletons in the dust.

Which honestly would be preferable compared to the madness and misery of postapo movies.

Lucidlethargy, to memes in Hey OpenAI

Wow, what a stupid construction company (if they are the ones behind this.) AI will come for manual labor in a way that makes what’s happening right now look unimpactful. And what’s going on right now is very fucked up.

Blapoo, to memes in Hey OpenAI

I take it you haven’t seen the recent advancements in both robotics and LLM powered agents

XEAL,

LLM haters in 3… 2…

asbestos,
@asbestos@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t, mind providing links?

Blapoo,

Yep. AutoGen + MemGPT (+Locally hosted models) youtu.be/VJ6bK81meu8?si=mGnvMTJsLn_vMvRb

Basically, a small company of self-refining LLM prompts that output meaningful results + a robust memory management for more long-term back and forths. Instead of “one input, one output. Next”

Another example: youtu.be/5Zj_zstLLP4?si=nHu4vHwidRmvuViY

I can share more examples and papers if desired.

On the robotics front, the focus is still on training custom models for given actions. Which is having some success: youtu.be/Jy3zjXK4ao4?si=yFdqnl8z9Z8Becsc

youtu.be/WlIYa3lH5UI?si=FQSZAm44h3FuuCoR

I’m convinced these “hivemind agents” will pass custom model training soon

asbestos,
@asbestos@lemmy.world avatar

Wow! I honestly can’t keep up with this stuff anymore… It’s insane how fast it’s advancing.

Blapoo,

I do it for a living and have given up being up to date on all the new shit going on. Billboard gets the W for now. LLMs cannot build houses in isolation.

What everyone is missing is that they don’t have to. The right LLM with the right question can output a meaningful “decision” or “judgment call”. That’s all you need. Ask the right series of questions. We’ll call it “thinking”. I really believe that well is pretty deep. Will it be the first version of “AI”? Maybe. Maybe not. But it’s gonna be a big milestone that is going to soon fuck up everything.

I can’t wait :)

TimeSquirrel, (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

I'll be convinced they can fully replace most trade work when they figure out fine motor control and finally build servo or hydraulic systems that don't act all janky and with slop a mile wide. When they can strip a wire, and then terminate it into a screw terminal, and then install an outlet in the wall. All with one robot, using each tool as needed as finely tuned as a human would do it. And also being able to adapt to different situations on the spot. For instance "shit, the hole for the outlet overlaps a stud, wtf do I do to fix this" type stuff.

From what I've seen even from the best like Boston Dynamics, there are still many decades to go before we have fully capable robotic trade workers.

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Many decades? Try five years.

evranch,

Big lol. Doing unattended trades work is practically the definition of general AI, something we don’t see happening any time soon.

Build prefab RTMs in a factory? Today, if the desire was there. Design the house around the line and build it like a car.

Run a new circuit from the basement to an upstairs bedroom, in an old house with weird idiosyncrasies? Not in our lifetimes. The combination of mapping, movement, intuition and the fact that something is guaranteed to go wrong and likely require rethinking the whole job makes this a very hard problem™.

Believe me if someone can invent a robot that can navigate a lumpy, rat infested crawlspace and install pipe/wires/insulation the apprentices of the world will be eternally grateful

rwhitisissle,

If Tesla has given up on fully self driving cars, wherein driving is a much simpler mechanical activity to replicating the full breadth of human construction tasks, then I don’t see how people are expecting tradecraft to get replaced by Mr. Fixitron anytime soon.

Vampiric_Luma,
@Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m interested!!! I’m SUPER interested!!!

Ringmasterincestuous,

If it’s LLM and robotics it better get used to having dick in it

asbestos,
@asbestos@lemmy.world avatar

holy fuck thanks for the laugh

plinky,
@plinky@hexbear.net avatar

They’ve learned to asnwer to emails?

AngrilyEatingMuffins,

They’ve been able to do that for a while. They got GPT to hire someone to break CAPTCHAs for it.

BelieveRevolt,

Bazinga so-true

UlyssesT,

Nerd rapture into the loving arms of the godlike but submissive holo waifu and ultimate comeuppance for the unwashed rabble is always, always just around the corner. Just you wait. wojak-nooo

RizzRustbolt, to memes in Hey OpenAI

Yep, there will always be room for humans in the suffering industry.

Nicbudd, to memes in Hey OpenAI

This is such a boomer meme

BelieveRevolt, to memes in Hey OpenAI

Trad West sus

Did you share a meme from a fascist page on purpose?

semperpeppe,

Man, what sort of thing you made me just discover ahahaha

anon232, to memes in Hey OpenAI

We can 3D print buildings so we’re almost there.

NaibofTabr,

Sort of… we can 3D print walls out of specific concrete blends that run nicely through an extended hose system that runs from the mud pump to the print nozzle. But, concrete has a limited time as mud before it starts to harden, so you can only print for so many hours before you have to stop and flush out the pump and hoses before it turns into rock, and the concrete mix can’t be too chunky (like including gravel) to flow through the system.

Also, if you get all that right, then you can print walls… but not structural frames that would support a multistory building, or plumbing or electrical wiring or insulation or windows or roofs…

We’re a long way from 3D printing a building wholesale.

Zyratoxx, to memes in Hey OpenAI
@Zyratoxx@lemmy.world avatar

Have you seen the newest South Park special cuz your post made me think of it. ^^

iforgotmyinstance, to memes in Hey OpenAI

Inb4 Boston Dynamics rolls out the self-building building.

doublejay1999, to memes in Hey OpenAI
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Your skills are irreplaceable, and your body is expendable . Work harder !

iHUNTcriminals, to memes in Hey OpenAI

Ai made this to pretend it’s an idiot political nut.

p03locke, to piracy in I’m sorry, but I cannot help you with finding pirated movies. Piracy is illegal and unethical 😉
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DirtyCNC,

The resolution is OK. Use zoom, most browsers have one

quicklime,

Some newer Lemmy users thru some third-party reader apps may need to click HD to get enough pixels to make the image readable before zooming.

I’m here via Boost, for example, and unless I were to set it to always pre-request HD images (and thereby consume far more bandwidth, unwanted) I have to manually click HD.

Dirk_Darkly, to piracy in I’m sorry, but I cannot help you with finding pirated movies. Piracy is illegal and unethical 😉

Where did corps get the idea that we want our software to be incredibly condescending?

Kissaki,

It was trained on human text and interactions, so …

maybe that’s a quite bad implication?

underisk,

There’s a default invisible prompt that precedes every conversation that sets parameters like tone, style, and taboos. The AI was instructed to behave like this, at least somewhat.

Steeve,

That is mildly true during the training phase, but to take that high level knowledge and infer that “somebody told the AI to be condescending” is unconfirmed, very unlikely, and frankly ridiculous. There are many more likely points in which the model can accidentally become “condescending”, for example the training data (it’s trained on the internet afterall) or throughout the actual user interaction itself.

underisk,

I didn’t say they specifically told it to be condescending. They probably told it to adopt something like a professional neutral tone and the trained model produced a mildly condescending tone because that’s what it associated with those adjectives. This is why I said it was only somewhat instructed to do this.

They almost certainly tweaked and tested it before releasing it to the public. So they knew what they were getting either way and this must be what they wanted or close enough.

Burningsky, to memes in Fossil

Ah yes, the kiss shark. It kisses its prey to death

SuckMyWang,

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