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TIN, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

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tygerprints, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Oh onion, you crazy allium. Your opinions really stink ya know that?

ExfilBravo, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Social media as a whole is slowing down I think. People are starting to realize it makes them angry, sad, and annoyed.

DaCookeyMonsta,

I’m doing the least social media I’ve done since Facebook became a thing and now I realize that without those emotions I’m just kind of bored.

Sami_Uso,

*boring

DaCookeyMonsta,

Thanks bud.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Find a hobby or learn something. The internet has so much to give that isn’t outrage and horror.

He’s a guy I like watching now and again building a solar array by himself

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Well that was a fascinating watch. Thanks for the link. I’ll definitely be watching more of his videos.

Advocado,

Good god, I sure hope so.

ComradeR,

Internet in general is becoming boring and tedious. Don’t know if it’s because of my age (Started to use internet when I was 13yo now I’m 31) but the internet isn’t that exciting and curiosity inducing place to me.

ALostInquirer,

Have you continued exploring, or found yourself settling in more?

For me any place stagnates when I start settling into it, so I try to find a new angle, a new question to ask of it, and eventually something gives way to something exciting and fascinating that was right around the corner the whole time.

ComradeR,

I continued exploring it. But, aside of one or other interesting sites that catch my attention for long periods of time (e.g. TvTropes), I can’t find internet amusing as I used to do in my childhood/teens. Sometimes I pick a good site that keep me entertained while browsing CloudHiker, but isn’t the same thing anymore.

Rodeo,

This ain’t a problem with the internet, it’s just because you’re getting older and you’ve seen more things.

ch00f,

I literally bought a Lightphone II because I was spending too much time on reddit. Like, I’d stay in bed for an hour just scrolling.

I’ve recently slacked off and started keeping my iPhone (on wifi) next to me when I sleep. I loose interest in like 20 minutes.

I’ve made a point of not posting or commenting on reddit since the recent debacle, but it’s really frustrating when I have some OC that would be great for a niche community that just doesn’t exist in any real numbers on lemmy.

like Playdate dev or Framework laptop.

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

There’s nothing wrong with browsing your social media whereever that be Facebook or Instagram or messageboards like lemmy reddit or 4chan just as long as it’s not impacting your life. Could be a good way to catch up on friends and pass the time. Although “social media detoxing” can be really good for your mental health

Potato_in_my_anus, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Yep… You’re right.

glibg10b, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Lemmy is neither popular nor heavily advertised, so people join at a slow rate

On the other hand, the amount political discussions, Hexbear, and lack of content result in disinterested people leaving Lemmy and joining Reddit

So the user count is decreasing because Reddit refugees are leaving faster than new people are joining

praise_idleness,

Memes are at least 50% shilling for communism.

blindbunny,

If that’s not your jam go to your ad filled corpo hellscape and talk to bots 🤷‍♂️

erogenouswarzone,
@erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

Lemmy is whatever we make it, except for the communism posts that love communism until they realize workers need representation. I half believe those are Chinese bots or high school kids who are stupid enough to believe the Chinese bots.

blindbunny,

Got new for you champ China doesn’t gaf about communism… and they sure as fuck don’t care enough to deploy bots on lemmy… The fediverse maybe…

erogenouswarzone,
@erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

Right. Magically, everyone on the Internet has become infatuated with communism out of thin air over the last few years. Must just be my paranoia to surggest influence from a hostile government.

RoseTintedGlasses, (edited )
@RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

its almost as if consistently worsening material conditions make people more desperate to look for an alternative to neoliberalism as their rent skyrockets and the cost of food just keeps going up and up but wages stay stagnant - the idea that some foreign government is whats secretly puppeteering socialists / progressive social democrats like bernie, corbyn, lula, etcetera into relevance when there’s plenty of perfectly good reasons to slide to the left all around is just QAnon but for moderates

Cowbee,

How do you account for the vast amount of anti-CPC Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists, if this “influence from a hostile government” is so effective? Might it be simpler to see that Capitalism’s increasing failure has driven more people in developed countries towards radicalization, especially as generations are further removed from the Red Scare?

praise_idleness,

CPC

🤣

blindbunny,

Homie did you repress COVID? Anyone that wasn’t removed about wearing a mask was discussing why this system isn’t working for them. Sorry you weren’t invited to the discussion.

ShitOnABrick, (edited )
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

It only takes a few convincing sock accounts not even 0.1% of there resources and woosh half the userbase of this site.wants a violent uprising and to eat the rich. Especially with a site like lemmy as it already has a really small suspectible and easy-to-manipulate userbase whom will believe anything there spoonfed

I believe and there’s evidence to suggest that both China and Russia both have an industry based upon spreading political propaganda for there own self-gain and interest on the western Internet. Entire office cubicles filled with monitors displaying social media sites big and small.3.5 hard drives filled with tankie memes and "stopping the intolerant " posters computer keyboard’s tapping away while groups of highly intelligent people spread highly sophisticated pieces of propoganda and attempt to silence there opponents and spread lies about them but this is just a conspiracy a CONSPIRACY THEORY

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9f16c94b-1c58-4db8-bcdd-1f7e22eb74d8.jpeg

Edit: It’s not even a conspiracy it’s a real thing This took me 5 seconds of googling

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades

en.wikipedia.org/…/State-sponsored_Internet_propa…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army?wprov=s…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_farm?wprov=sfla1

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party?wprov=sfla1

blindbunny,

While all of this is great for Russia doing this.

Is there any evidence China does?

ShitOnABrick, (edited )
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. I have posted these links multiple times now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army?wprov=s…

Also the fifty cent party a Chinese troll farm based entirely on spreading propaganda for the ccp

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party?wprov=sfla1

This took me 5 seconds of research. If were being passive aggressive here ive gotta say. are you sure you didn’t get dropped on the head as a baby or eat copious amounts of lead

blindbunny,

Haha naw I just kind wanted some one to post this information.

Honestly I still don’t think there’s much to gain from influencing lemmy users. But I know it’s a game of attrition you have to do it everywhere on as many social networks as possible to cast the widest net.

ShitOnABrick, (edited )
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t believe there are any states trying to influence. Lemmy although you just can’t be certain these days. I do think it’s possible lemmys the perfect breeding ground for propoganda especially considering a good chunk say 40% of lemmy are tankies tankies is a term to decribe someone whom holds marxist/stalinist/Communist politcal views and are very suspectible to propoganda.

Franzia,

You may wanna try a different instance if all that is getting to you

jack,

Or just block some communities

SaakoPaahtaa,

Commies again with the thinnest of skins

blindbunny,

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  • SaakoPaahtaa,

    Uh, I don’t think many commies think of themselves as future millionaires? Or at least in the conventional sense

    Zekas,

    Brain dead tankie serial number

    Omega_Haxors,

    Jesus with the projection.

    acastcandream,

    If people left Reddit and then went back, then they are just proving to spez that they are the addicts he thinks they are and is counting on abusing. No thanks. Fuck Reddit.

    erogenouswarzone,
    @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

    Reddit has actually gotten a lot better since the Exodus. All the political activists have come here.

    explodicle,

    There’s no more r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM?

    DrakonIL,

    Just wait for the US election season to get into full swing. It’ll become a steaming pile again.

    acastcandream, (edited )

    Highly doubt that. You’ve probably just gotten better at curating your subs. Fediverse has been a vastly superior experience for me either way.

    schmidtster, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    I’ve stopped posting in a few communities due to user interaction. Some are just asses, some want this to be Reddit 2.0.

    The_Picard_Maneuver, (edited ) to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    As someone who posts a ton, I’ve noticed that a lot of people seem to check the top posts once a day or so. Posts can be slow to get engagement and traction, but the ones that become super active still seem to hit similar peaks as before (1-2k upvotes, hundreds of comments).

    But yeah, people aren’t as actively engaged and commenting on everything all day like they used to on reddit. The framework is here, and I think if there were another big exodus, Lemmy is set up to be a great landing point.

    GarbageShoot,

    I think part of it is that if someone comes here looking for a Reddit substitute, they will be disappointed, but if they come here looking for something extremely distinct from Reddit, they will also be disappointed. A lot of fediverse stuff is basically an inferior Reddit clone and that problem was compounded by the huge wave of Ledditors basically hijacking the culture of multiple instances to just exercise their Reddit habits, making the comparison even more obvious and poor.

    Lemmy needs to eat populations that aren’t too big in order to metabolize them properly. Anything beyond that is going to get ejected along with some of what it could have handled if it was just that, and this will remain how it works until Lemmy figures out how to push people much harder to engage differently with it than with Reddit.

    Franzia,

    But on the other hand reddits comments were frequently shallow and full of annoying jokes. I love reading Lemmy!

    RoseTintedGlasses,
    @RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Yeah, I much prefer Lemmy to Reddit, it’s nice to be in a thread and not just see people repeating a load of dumb jokes they’ve all seen a thousand times back to each other like it gets any funnier the 1,001st time they hear it. And like that’s leaving aside how right wing it is and there was always a certain current of racism just below the surface in basically any politics sub and a load of popular seemingly apolitical subs

    UnRelatedBurner,

    This. Quality over quantity. There are much more walls of text, but it’s filled with information and humanity. Reddit just became another Meta platform, but for niches. Lemmy has great communities, but all are tech and anti-big-corpo related, I feel right at home :p, but I understand that most don’t.

    AlexWIWA,

    Pun threads on Reddit are the worst. I thought they were funny and clever… In 2009…

    c0mbatbag3l, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    Maybe if every community wasn’t just another Linux memes community we wouldn’t have lost all of the users.

    Told you guys this shit was gonna happen.

    Diplomjodler,

    Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    I use Linux, I just hate Linux users.

    Diplomjodler,

    I bet you’re a filthy systemd heretic!

    Aggravationstation,

    Personally I only worship Saint IGNUcius stallman.org/saint.html1000011224

    Oh and Satan, I also worship Satan.

    FunkyMonk,

    Yeah reddit spring user here, I kinda agree. Not that I mind them but there is an awful lot of 'LOL WINDOWS NORMIES LOL' and 'JOKE ABOUT HOW HARD THIS LINUX IS.' is like... allot of the jokes.

    ryathal,

    A lot of the problems with Linux are the same problems Lemmy has, so it’s a really good point.

    CarbonIceDragon,
    @CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

    There are plenty of other communities people made, just most didn’t become very active. If the Linux memes are everywhere, it’s because those are the people actually active here

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not that they’re not active, it’s that every single thread on every single community devolves into linux discussions even if the community isn’t in any way supposed to be about Linux.

    Also the ones that aren’t active aren’t active because everyone realized lemmy only caters to like three interests.

    We need better moderation so that the communities which are supposed to be about Linux are, and the ones that aren’t don’t get flooded with it. That way newcomers won’t feel like they have no place here unless they’re an anti-car, vegan, FOSS user.

    If this doesn’t happen, lemmy will slowly die and people will have to go to other places like Tildes or back to Reddit.

    CarbonIceDragon,
    @CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

    Personally I don’t think I’ve noticed this. Things devolving into political discussions, sure, but that’s par for the course with social media I imagine. I had assumed you meant the prevalence of Linux stuff on the all feed.

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    No I mean the prevalence of Linux on c/memes, on c/mildlyinfuriating, c/programmerhumor, anywhere but Linux and Linux memes which are specifically designated for that content.

    If you haven’t seen it on the comments of every possible thread you’re either wearing blinders or willfully ignorant. You can’t go three comments down on a single post anywhere without someone mentioning Linux and then the whole thread is Linux from there.

    valaramech,
    @valaramech@kbin.social avatar

    I would fully expect Linux content on any community dedicated to technology (i.e. programmerhumor); the rest is totally understandable. Though, I have to agree with @CarbonIceDragon, I really don't see as much Linux content as you seem to - granted I use kbin, not lemmy.

    I've read that Lemmy is a bit more personally curated than kbin, is it possible you've just accidentally built yourself a Linux bubble?

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    Fair enough on programmer humor, but no I don’t think I’ve built any kind of bubble. I only subscribe to those two aforementioned Linux communities, everything else is just bleed over. My feed is pretty well rounded to match what I had going on over at reddit.

    Rentlar, (edited )

    Idea: Join me on !trains and help me post more Linux-free train and railway news?

    !bahn auf Deutsch!

    CaptDust, (edited )

    Hmm but what kind of software do these trains run on? Allow me to take a moment and explain how switching these operations to Linux could increase schedule reliability while minimizing expenses.

    (/s, if needed… I hope your community grows!)

    Rentlar,

    Thanks. I’d heard they were serving WINE on some trains… (suspicious look)

    Catoblepas,

    Dunno if this is default lemmy behavior but you can filter keywords on Voyager (and I’m sure other clients).

    CluckN, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    I’ll throw in a few reasons

    -Learning curve is huge compared to other social media

    -As soon as an instance gets a large audience hosting costs skyrocket and moderation ability plummets

    -The same instance can exist on multiple servers causing the demographic to be split

    -Pr0n instances have to take the colossal risk of hosting malicious material that can send them to jail because the data is hosted on their own server

    Rolando,

    Learning curve is huge compared to other social media

    The sad thing is, is not really that more complicated, it’s just got a bumpy on-ramp. join-lemmy.org is a lot better than it used to be, but it’s still got this anxiety-producing step where you have to select a home server.

    Norgur, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Well, Lemmy is really not good at pushing new content/new posts and/or new communities to people. For many of us, that might be a boon: less algorithmic shenanigans, less "steering" of the user. Yet, if you are not a user who likes to actively seak out stuff, your feeds will look stale and slow-paced very quickly. There might be new stuff,.but the feeds struggle to find a middle ground between "only the upvoted stiff you subscribed to", "the always same server wide top posts" and "bleeding edge new stuff". It's also very reluctant to sprinkle on new communities.

    I think that's a main contributor to the decline.

    For the record: kbin is more liberal when it comes to that sort of stuff. So if you like a more active feed, you might want to try kbin. If you like your feed to be controlled by you more, use Lemmy.

    SpaceNoodle, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Probably because of bad memes with bizarre phrases like “user is keep”

    thantik, (edited ) to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    This is normal. Most “alt” services, rely on outrage and shit to grow user base. Reddit will do something stupid and we’ll get a huge influx again, some people will stay, others will leave.

    One of the other alt sites that I was part of had a meme just for this: i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/…/008.png

    We need something like this drawn up for Lemmy but without the N word.

    Stache_,

    Ha, I like the meme. Maybe replace the N word with “commie” or an Anime tankie chick. I’m with that last Redditor that stuck around, I’m liking this place. Certainly not the same as Reddit, but it’s got it’s own charm to it that a lot of others have already commented about

    valaramech, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @valaramech@kbin.social avatar

    I won't lie. I mostly don't engage with content I see here. I didn't do that when I was on Reddit either and mostly for the same reason: I don't really have much to say and, even when I do have an opinion, I don't usually want to engage in what's often a protracted debate about something that will probably just end up being frustrating.

    That's not to say I haven't had positive experiences on the Fediverse - I've had more here than anywhere else - I'm just not particularly motivated most of the time.

    Kwakigra,

    I do most of my discourse on Beehaw which is protected in many ways. When I used reddit I would often have a comment typed out ready to post and think better of it since I knew it would only drive dismissive and antagonistic responses of the stupidest kind. It may be because of the protections or it may be because of the smaller community but I find a lot less posturing and a lot more actual conversation since I’ve been using this platform. This is what keeps me here rather than reddit. It might be worth engaging in conversations you wouldn’t have on reddit when you’re interested.

    Rentlar, (edited )

    I agree… Beehaw is such a wonderful and special place on the internet. I have an account there but I try to keep it separate from my main Lemmy.ca one so that I better hold myself accountable to the server rules, in order to foster nicer discourse.

    Rentlar, (edited )

    Well, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts.

    There are a number of thread topics on Lemmy that seem to keep going the same direction (Google, Musk, Gaza, Trump, Windows, etc.), and as you say, it can be frustrating and exhausting…

    At the same tine on Lemmy, I had found articles that were worthwhile reading, updates to FOSS that I would have otherwise missed, no shortage of silly memes, and a handful of new perspectives that were positively thought provoking. Those let me look past most of the negative things and stuff that is pervasive on all kinds of forums, Reddit and social media on the whole.

    Obi, (edited )
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I’ll happily participate with light-hearted content but otherwise I mostly feel like you when it comes to any polarising topics like politics, etc. I wish there were more content about my areas of expertise so I could participate in that but alas there’s mostly developer stuff only. Maybe I’m also not doing my best curating my feed since I tend to mostly browse all.

    Imgonnatrythis, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Feels Very circle jerky here. Its low effort commentaries on political issues mostly and extraordinarily little growth of niche interest subs. The lack of content here helps curb my doom scrolling, so that and a real hate for reddit leadership and the pathetic Simps that think writing “fuck Spez” while still contributing content to his network for free is a form of effective protest, are all that keeps me here though.

    thrawn,

    This is my take on Lemmy as well. I was impacted by the removal of third party apps because I used Reddit as a mobile quick reader between activities where the bite-sized format of title -> elaboration -> brief discussion was great, but maybe a little too much. On Lemmy I don’t feel the need to keep reading. This also means I wasn’t invested enough in Reddit, so when they made clear their disdain for the users, I simply left. Nothing there is important enough to keep going.

    Lemmy is definitely lower quality though. All is primarily single topic outrage and there is a significant amount of extreme rhetoric that makes me feel like I’ll be put on a list for reading, which would have been removed on Reddit for lack of civility or worse. The niche things don’t exist and, even if I wasn’t a bite-sized mobile user and had the time or thoughts to form a community, these Reddit clones are always most active at political… discussion users can’t express elsewhere and that tends to kill the niche hobbyists who don’t want to look at or be surrounded by that type of passion. So it’s difficult to curate a personal feed of anything but that.

    Lemmy still works for my use case and it’s about the next best thing to Reddit. I do think the “circlejerk” feeling is contributing to the decline though, and wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up like Voat.

    Pantherina, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Wtf is Misskey?

    Rentlar, (edited )

    It’s a (mostly) Japanese Fediverse social media network with a fuckton of cute emoji reactions, static and animated.

    Screenshothttps://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/7a90ea6b-473a-4e3c-a435-89569f9bf05f.jpeg

    Firefish (was Calckey) seems to be based off of this.

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