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extant, to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic

As a millennial I have no idea what that person is saying.

instamat, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

I mostly lurk so this is me being proactive!

tyfon,

I also mostly lurk, but I logged in to post now. I don’t think the goal should be too be as big as possible, but a place of better discussions.

Churbleyimyam,

Currently imagining a community that is only a place for lurkers to post in.

Microw,

Squabbles had a community called “Lurkers_Anon” for that specific purpose. Was great! I would love to see something like that on Lemmy!

Churbleyimyam,

Haha what sort of thing were people posting on it?!

Microw,

Mainly encouraging each other to post things, and Twitter-like Posts about things happening in their lifes

crawancon, (edited )

I’m doing my part!

(starship troopers.jpg)

Vej, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

The quality here is far better with the exception of maybe some user generated text stories. Posts don’t just get lost in a sea of posts. The users here may not be as many, but it appears to have more consistent engagement and far less people PM’ing me offering me Amazon gift cards for feet pics.

redcalcium,

If you missed them maybe you can persuade those wikifeet contributors to join your lemmy instance.

MargotRobbie,

NO. NO FEET PICS. BAD.

Land_Strider,

This really is a nice place. Even most engaged posts hardly get over 50 comments usually, but 48 of those comments are on topic, sane and unique even on a fandom community. Arguments are heated but mostly contribute at least some point of view rather than being rabid spoutings that either get upvoted (or awarded) to skies above or downvoted to hell unanimously.

We have way fewer posts, even fewer do in niche communities. However, the posts on the bigger communities are quite enough to pass the time. What we actually need is more people interacting with the seemingly dead niche communities of their fandoms and interests.

Big communities keep crossposting a lot of daily news or magazine-worth happenings, which kinda gets tiring after seeing the same post for the 5th time. Hiding crossposts per user settings would be nice to prevent the feeling of only same posts being posted for interested non-fediverse users.

Vlixz,
@Vlixz@lemmy.world avatar

I swear that was the best part of reddit… When I was alone there was always someone to offer me gift cards for pics >⁠.⁠<

Saltblue,

What about some feet pics for some blockbuster gift cards? It’s gonna make a comeback I’m sure

Manifish_Destiny,

Agreed. I do miss my niche subreddits like druggardening, centuryhomes, unclebens, and diyprint.

Rodeo,

3d printing is one of the things that’s pretty popular on Lemmy, actually.

MrJameGumb, to memes in YouTube
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

"They do want to pay for premium! They just don’t understand what a great value it is! SHOW THEM THE AD AGAIN! SHOW THEM ON EVERY VIDEO SO THEY WILL UNDERSTAND!!! "

Kolanaki, (edited ) to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

On God. Fr fr, no cap on the rizz with a lizz until I jizz. Yeet!

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Groovy.

admin,

Finna

theangryseal,

Nice mullet bro. Reminds me of my rad dad in the early 90s.

Miczech, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Lemmy is cool and all but the amount of communist obsession here is a bit much.

Cowbee,

It was founded by a Communist, and decentralization appeals to leftists. The non-Communist lemmy is Reddit, basically, or making your own instance or finding an anti-Communist instance.

TangledHyphae,

It’d be cool to see hosted lemmy instances where people can pay for their own without having to go through the setup process, then curate their own feeds. Unless that already exists somewhere.

Lyricism6055,

I wouldn’t say it’s super easy, but self hosting on a VPS is definitely possible

TangledHyphae,

That was actually my next logical step. I just need to spin up the node and configure and set DNS and whatnot, just need the time to dig into it.

Gorilladrums,

This is why Lemmy will never be anything more than tiny a niche platform. It’s a place for the far left by the far left. There’s nothing here in place for anybody else. I don’t just mean politics wise, I mean everything. There’s nothing for fandoms, shows, movies, sports, or anything really. You have to be privacy/tech nerd or some left wing extremist to really enjoy this place more than Reddit. Since the portion of the population that this platform is trying to appeal to is extremely small, this platform will always be small. There’s little to not attempts by the devs or the community to make this place appeal to everybody else.

Cowbee,

What, exactly, could be done to make it appeal to non-leftists, structurally? Addition of advertisers? Lol.

Gorilladrums,

There are few things the developers could do. For example, they could make the platform easier to use. Many people don’t even reach this place because they’re not that tech savvy or simple don’t care enough to figure it out. It’s much easier for them to just create an account and get started on Reddit or elsewhere. This leaves extremists with nowhere else to go and tech bros… which are the two groups that dominate this place. The process of getting on board and finding instances/communities needs to be easier. There needs to be something like centralized site/app that is easily accessible and shows all the different instances and communities in one place.

Cowbee,

It’s not that complicated, go to an instance and sign up.

What actually dominates Lemmy are groups of people that value bottom-up organizational structures, decentralization, FOSS, and other general structural decisions made with creating Lemmy. This leaves people that like these principles, and actually care enough to move to an instance despite mass adoption of a more top-down, Capitalist site like Reddit.

Catfish,
@Catfish@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Well said!

Gorilladrums,

Decentralization isn’t left wing or right wing, that’s just a moronic analysis. Decentralization has a wide appeal but unless it gets simplified and standardized it will never become adopted by the mainstream. Places like Lemmy which are littered with gatekeepers like you doom this place to forever being a niche. If this place ever hopes of rivaling reddit, it needs to appeal to more than political extremists and tech nerds

Cowbee,

Decentralization is far more left than it is right, hence why Lemmy has a ton of leftists. It wasn’t just chance.

VentraSqwal,
Soundhole,

Oh well.

Globulart, (edited )

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  • _donnadie_,
    @_donnadie_@feddit.cl avatar

    It depends on which instances you visit, the one I’m in is pretty chill, but slow. Though it does have a Chilean theme going on, so it might be harder for you to find something interesting.

    Cowbee,

    The simple answer is that Communism does not in fact rely on everyone being perfect and unselfish. The complicated answer is telling you to go read Communist theory.

    Why do you hold the belief that Communisn requires everyone be perfect and unselfish to function any more than Capitalism does? Can you describe the principle or structure that leads you to believe this?

    Globulart, (edited )

    Honestly, no I’m far from an expert in political or economic matters. I’m just yet to see a system proposed that could work in reality given how complex humans are and how “value” is almost impossible to define when everyone sees it differently.

    Plenty of countries have tried though and none have made it work from what I’ve seen. This is possibly (probably) a gross oversimplification but ultimately someone (or some group) ends up at the top of the tree and unless that group is uncorruptable forever it ends with imbalance.

    Asking everyone to share as needed and own nothing would be great if everyone wanted everyone else to be equally happy and nobody was trying to take more for themselves (and if everyone had the same idea of what everything is worth). I think at the very least we can agree that some people are more selfless than others and other people will always exploit that given an opportunity.

    Cowbee, (edited )

    How deep of an understanding do you have of these supposed proposed systems? As a leftist, the vast majority of mainstream leftist tendencies have strong theory that specifically deals with what you consider to be their ultimate flaw: an assumption of human good. It’s hard to actually answer for every single leftist Tendency, because you haven’t really given any specifics.

    As for your second paragraph, there have been remarkably few countries that genuinely have tried Socialism, and all of them were developing countries. Don’t take this to mean that I’m a fan of Marxism-Leninism, but there are two prominent examples of countries that most would consider did in fact “work,” those being the USSR and China.

    Again, not defending the USSR or China overall, but asking for clarification on your definition of working, as they were and are economically strong.

    Your point about the top of the tree is, bluntly, extremely bad. You offer no explanation why a Socialist or Communist structure cannot be democratically accountable to any lesser degree than Capitalist structures, and assume absolute power. This goes directly against all leftist theory, even Marxism-Leninism, which is centered on the principles of Democratic Centralism.

    Your point about Communism being “sharing everything and owning nothing” is also entirely incorrect, and further proves my point. The entire final paragraph is so divorced from any sense of actual leftist theory, that it can only be a product of someone fully believing a right-wing pundit’s propaganda, and not the actual primary sources for leftist tendencies, to the point where I’ll break down each sentence.

    1. Communism, principly, is a far-future status by which the whole of the productive forces can meaningfully provide whatever anyone wants at any time, and work is done for the pleasure of working, rather than for the necessity of being. As such, it must be built towards over a long period of Socialism, which is chiefly Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. Communism and Socialism are built on the idea of earning what you actually work for, rather than allowing individuals to own the products of other’s labor via ownership of the tools they use. You make the error of assuming immediate implementation of Communism, rather than gradual.
    2. We can partially agree on your second point, but given the actual structures proposed by various leftist tendencies, it doesn’t matter for this conversation, and you’ve yet to prove why.

    Sorry for the wall of text! I truly think that you should talk to leftists, actually read some Marx, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Lenin, Luxembourg, and so forth, and actually get an idea of what the various leftist tendencies are actually saying. You don’t have to be a leftist, but you absolutely should understand leftism before attempting to disavow it entirely.

    Globulart,

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  • Cowbee,

    Lack of acceptance for what? Leftism is a group of ideologies, and not necessarily one built around tolerating that which they oppose out of a sense of moral superiority.

    I was just asking for what you’ve seen that points to Communism working in theory and not in practice, because so far you’ve explained exactly none of that.

    I’ve found a good start for your lack of understanding, though! You completely misinterpret the definition and conflate private property with all property, when it is specifically referring to tools and industry, ie the Means of Production. You absolutely own things in Communism, like your house, toys, games, books, etc. You just don’t own Private Property, like factories, restaurants, etc. The definition of Communism is a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society, and you make the error of pretending to know what exactly that entails by your own worst imagining of your own worst interpretation of said phrase.

    Your next paragraph is also very enlightening, you assume Capitalist Mode of Production with Communist consequences! This is precisely what I’m getting at, you believe things like Companies would exist in Communism, when Communism itself is anti-market, and you’re again making the assumption that we can just turn on the big red Communism button and get there, when it must be built over a long period of time, with structures such as worker councils.

    Your question about bullshit jobs has numerous solutions, actually. First of all, you’re assuming Communism in modern society, rather than the future, after lots of automation. Socialism would have monetary rewards, even lower stage Communism as well, for performing this labor. Eventually, it would be like your current life. Who cleans your house? You and your roommates, whether that be your friends, or family. In a Communist society, likely everyone would take turns, for whatever bullshit jobs haven’t already been automated away. In lower stages, they would be paid more money until this becomes possible.

    Your points on the USSR and China are also wrong. In the USSR, wealth inequality was magnitudes lower than it is in their current oligarchic hellscape, and the Workers actually had a lot of say over how their life went, assuming they didn’t criticize the Politburo. This was referred to as Soviet Democracy, by which worker councils called Soviets decided things democratically at the local level.

    No, I wouldn’t live in the USSR or modern day China, because they are developing countries with authoritarian leadership. However, you’ll find that is true across the board for developing countries. Perhaps if the USSR or China ever fully developed and became more democratically accountable, I would choose to live there, but for now you’ll find that quality of life follows development more than structure.

    Both Maoist China and the USSR had far less wealth inequality than they have today, both doubled life expectancy, and the USSR had close to 0 homelessness with fully free education and Healthcare. They also lacked luxury goods and had an Authoritarian party controlling the state, but you’re demonstrably wrong about wealth inequality.

    I am not a tankie or a supporter of the ML form of Socialism, if it needs to be restated.

    If I point to Hitler’s Germany, Pinochet’s Chile, and Batista’s Cuba, does that mean that Capitalism is great in theory and doesn’t actually work in reality because it results in Authoritarianism? The answer is that you must state the why and how this came to be, so as not to repeat it.

    Do you genuinely think the USSR and China are the only forms of Socialism that could ever exist?

    Please, just read some leftist theory or watch some YouTube videos. All of your false preconceptions are easily debunked even by looking at historical records and doing some light critical thinking. I know you mean well, but you could genuinely have improvements in your understanding.

    dotMonkey,

    And the Linux/Firefox/Windows hating/Open source obsessions

    TserriednichThe4th,

    Wait lemmy is full of tankies? Fuck… When I left reddit and twitter, i thought i would never have to see the terminally online left again.

    Oh, and before the leftists come at me, I hate conservatives more, and yall need to admit that joe biden is doing a great job and exactly what you asked.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar
    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2022/3/8/2821353.png

    “And today for tomirrow what did you do?”

    Reference to this song from 0:59 to 1:02

    EternalNicodemus,
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Same, there’s this political circlejerk everywhere I go here, I may agree with a lot of people here, but different POVs on politics would be refreshing…

    h3mlocke, (edited )

    Yeah fr! I sure do wish there were more ppl on here calling for the eradication of gays and people of color lmfao

    /s

    ghost_of_faso2, (edited )
    @ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    every lost liberal today is 10 alienated redditors joining lemmy due to there being less liberals here because they left

    anti-communist/‘diverse’ opinions like open racism are welcomed on reddit

    h3mlocke,

    Thanks, that’s was kinda my point

    TangledHyphae,

    TIL a different political opinion equates to killing all gays. Who would have known?

    EternalNicodemus,
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Lmao, thank you

    h3mlocke,

    Yeah I dunno dude, i live in the US, one party hates guys and blacks, are u actually that stupid?

    And the comment was more of a take on reddit and the political views there. If I want to see shit like that I know where to look, but im not.

    EternalNicodemus,
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Not my fault u guys are brainwashed enough to have only two parties with only dumb people and ideals

    h3mlocke,

    Congratulations 🥳 You’re super cool, buddy.

    EternalNicodemus,
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Thank you~

    EternalNicodemus, (edited )
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Lemmy in a nutshell -_-

    Gorilladrums,

    You’re exactly the type of toxic idiot that drives people away from this place.

    h3mlocke,

    no u

    h3mlocke,

    Different POV like what exactly? I’m genuinely asking. What political POV do u feel is missing or underrepresented on lemmy? 🤔

    EternalNicodemus,
    @EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world avatar

    Everything that is not the progressive US left honestly

    h3mlocke,

    Lmfao.

    ikilledtheradiostar,
    EurekaStockade,

    That’s not very revolutionary of you, comrade

    SimplyATable,

    There’s a lot on lemmy that’s too much, this isn’t really a surprise

    glibg10b, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Lemmy is neither popular nor heavily advertised, so people join at a slow rate

    On the other hand, the amount political discussions, Hexbear, and lack of content result in disinterested people leaving Lemmy and joining Reddit

    So the user count is decreasing because Reddit refugees are leaving faster than new people are joining

    praise_idleness,

    Memes are at least 50% shilling for communism.

    blindbunny,

    If that’s not your jam go to your ad filled corpo hellscape and talk to bots 🤷‍♂️

    erogenouswarzone,
    @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

    Lemmy is whatever we make it, except for the communism posts that love communism until they realize workers need representation. I half believe those are Chinese bots or high school kids who are stupid enough to believe the Chinese bots.

    blindbunny,

    Got new for you champ China doesn’t gaf about communism… and they sure as fuck don’t care enough to deploy bots on lemmy… The fediverse maybe…

    erogenouswarzone,
    @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

    Right. Magically, everyone on the Internet has become infatuated with communism out of thin air over the last few years. Must just be my paranoia to surggest influence from a hostile government.

    RoseTintedGlasses, (edited )
    @RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    its almost as if consistently worsening material conditions make people more desperate to look for an alternative to neoliberalism as their rent skyrockets and the cost of food just keeps going up and up but wages stay stagnant - the idea that some foreign government is whats secretly puppeteering socialists / progressive social democrats like bernie, corbyn, lula, etcetera into relevance when there’s plenty of perfectly good reasons to slide to the left all around is just QAnon but for moderates

    Cowbee,

    How do you account for the vast amount of anti-CPC Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists, if this “influence from a hostile government” is so effective? Might it be simpler to see that Capitalism’s increasing failure has driven more people in developed countries towards radicalization, especially as generations are further removed from the Red Scare?

    praise_idleness,

    CPC

    🤣

    blindbunny,

    Homie did you repress COVID? Anyone that wasn’t removed about wearing a mask was discussing why this system isn’t working for them. Sorry you weren’t invited to the discussion.

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    It only takes a few convincing sock accounts not even 0.1% of there resources and woosh half the userbase of this site.wants a violent uprising and to eat the rich. Especially with a site like lemmy as it already has a really small suspectible and easy-to-manipulate userbase whom will believe anything there spoonfed

    I believe and there’s evidence to suggest that both China and Russia both have an industry based upon spreading political propaganda for there own self-gain and interest on the western Internet. Entire office cubicles filled with monitors displaying social media sites big and small.3.5 hard drives filled with tankie memes and "stopping the intolerant " posters computer keyboard’s tapping away while groups of highly intelligent people spread highly sophisticated pieces of propoganda and attempt to silence there opponents and spread lies about them but this is just a conspiracy a CONSPIRACY THEORY

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9f16c94b-1c58-4db8-bcdd-1f7e22eb74d8.jpeg

    Edit: It’s not even a conspiracy it’s a real thing This took me 5 seconds of googling

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades

    en.wikipedia.org/…/State-sponsored_Internet_propa…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army?wprov=s…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_farm?wprov=sfla1

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party?wprov=sfla1

    blindbunny,

    While all of this is great for Russia doing this.

    Is there any evidence China does?

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes. I have posted these links multiple times now.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army?wprov=s…

    Also the fifty cent party a Chinese troll farm based entirely on spreading propaganda for the ccp

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party?wprov=sfla1

    This took me 5 seconds of research. If were being passive aggressive here ive gotta say. are you sure you didn’t get dropped on the head as a baby or eat copious amounts of lead

    blindbunny,

    Haha naw I just kind wanted some one to post this information.

    Honestly I still don’t think there’s much to gain from influencing lemmy users. But I know it’s a game of attrition you have to do it everywhere on as many social networks as possible to cast the widest net.

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t believe there are any states trying to influence. Lemmy although you just can’t be certain these days. I do think it’s possible lemmys the perfect breeding ground for propoganda especially considering a good chunk say 40% of lemmy are tankies tankies is a term to decribe someone whom holds marxist/stalinist/Communist politcal views and are very suspectible to propoganda.

    Franzia,

    You may wanna try a different instance if all that is getting to you

    jack,

    Or just block some communities

    SaakoPaahtaa,

    Commies again with the thinnest of skins

    blindbunny,

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  • SaakoPaahtaa,

    Uh, I don’t think many commies think of themselves as future millionaires? Or at least in the conventional sense

    Zekas,

    Brain dead tankie serial number

    Omega_Haxors,

    Jesus with the projection.

    acastcandream,

    If people left Reddit and then went back, then they are just proving to spez that they are the addicts he thinks they are and is counting on abusing. No thanks. Fuck Reddit.

    erogenouswarzone,
    @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

    Reddit has actually gotten a lot better since the Exodus. All the political activists have come here.

    explodicle,

    There’s no more r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM?

    DrakonIL,

    Just wait for the US election season to get into full swing. It’ll become a steaming pile again.

    acastcandream, (edited )

    Highly doubt that. You’ve probably just gotten better at curating your subs. Fediverse has been a vastly superior experience for me either way.

    Catfish, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @Catfish@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Infinite growth is not a good thing, numbers rise and fall just let it do it’s own thing. That being said, maybe if the Lemmy instances would stop defederating like children snatching toys from one another at a daycare it would get more engagement.

    explodicle,

    How do you think they can better address the problem of abusive users from other servers?

    Azzu, (edited )

    I mean how did it work on Reddit? You banned the abusive users.

    explodicle,

    That wouldn’t work on Lemmy because one can make infinity user names on an instance without CAPTCHAs (or any other throttling).

    And even then, Reddit tended to allow a lot of trolling.

    Azzu,

    I’m pretty sure the complaint is about instances that do have captchas/some kind of verification enabled but still being defederated.

    explodicle,

    So why doesn’t the “offending” server just ban them itself?

    Omega_Haxors, (edited )

    Read the comments thread of ANY of the “we defederated from” posts and it’s always the same “They were annoying tankies” shit. It isn’t a matter of abusive users, they have tools for that. They just want to allow fash shit to fester unopposed by the people capable of disarming it.

    Just look at any instance that has hexbear and lemmygrad blocked. Their culture is already starting to decay into becoming reddit nazi bars.

    GTG3000, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Less content, that is spread across multiple instances that can have duplicate communities.

    You just can’t keep doomscrolling here, the “active” search repeats all the time and the “best of the day” is like two pages.

    And then there’s specific communities that just… Stayed on Reddit.

    Lt_Cdr_Data,

    It’s not just that. Most people here are into far left, anti-capitalist bs and people don’t care to deal with that

    Alfonsio,

    I like it here because of the far left anti-capitalist bs. The internet is full of edgy incel nazis and it’s pretty relieving to have some safe spaces 🤷‍♂️

    Cowbee,

    People clearly support that, and it makes sense, considering Lemmy’s founder is a Communist and decentralization appeals to Leftists.

    spectre,

    Yeah if that’s a bad vibe to someone Lemmy might not be the best fit.

    Acoltc,

    And that’s why it is losing users.

    spectre,

    Yeah, quality of community over quantity, it’s a non-issue.

    EvolvedTurtle,

    I actually like lemmy for the fact I can’t doom scroll Makes it easier to put down and touch grass

    Cowbee,

    Yep, it’s been a massive improvement for me over Reddit on that end. No more doomscrolling, no more literally endless fights with strangers (still some ofc, but grass touching is back on the menu).

    GTG3000,

    Well, perhaps that is healthier.

    But it doesn’t trap eyeballs.

    gohixo9650,

    Less content, that is spread across multiple instances that can have duplicate communities.

    on top of that, there redundant communities that are unnecessary even in the same instances. For example there is the android@ and the askandroid@. The first one has a decent amount of subscribers while the second one has a single digit number. I wanted to ask a question, I posted in the first one since it would make sense to reach more people. The post got deleted and I was told to go to the other one. In the first one they were posting only news articles.

    This is ridiculous. Splitting communities in such way was the result of the huge traffic that such communities had in the past in other platforms. This makes sense only when the traffic is so huge that it is practically chaotic to navigate and moderate between news/articles and support questions. When both communities combined have 50 subscribers, such split only harms the platform and the users.

    Everyone wanted to migrate by bringing an identical environment to what they had used to. However this should be adaptable to the current situation instead of directly copying it.

    GTG3000,

    I think some people expected their entire community to get up and move.

    spectre, (edited )

    The post got deleted and I was told to go to the other one. In the first one they were posting only news articles

    Ill call it garbage reddit-brain moderation. The reason for an /ask~ comm is cause your main comm is flooded with repeated questions that would stifle discussion. It’s also not a good solution to that problem, not too mention they don’t have enough users to be having that problem.

    The way you form a community is to discuss the same things over and over until a hivemind develops, it’s a good thing to have a group consensus, not that individuals can’t disagree. Now the crappy moderation is gonna cultivate a crappy subreddit vibe instead of something better.

    bignate,

    I actually found that I really like the “hot” scrolling so much better. On Reddit, everything I came across had ~hundreds of comments and everything was multiple hours old. I didn’t feel like I could contribute at all. But here… it feels a lot smaller, and most of the “hot” posts are not rubbish, so I feel like I can actually contribute!

    GTG3000,

    Well for me, the real content of Reddit was finding an interesting thing and then reading a few dozen comments from people really in the know.

    Here it’s going to be a dozen top-level comments and maybe one of them will have a thread longer than three messages.

    phoneymouse, to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic

    I would assume big spicy boi is a big shit. I am a millennial. Guess this makes no sense.

    lauha,

    If someone said there is a spicy boy in the kitchen, I would assume there is a live grenade or an angry feral cat there

    conorab, to memes in YouTube

    Reasons not to buy premium:

    • Google having a history of all the videos you watch via your account.
    • Even if Google provided an option to opt out of tracking there would be no reason to trust then since they have lied about not tracking people in the past.
    • YouTube seems to redirect any Premium profits intended to creators to the entity which made a copyright claim on a video. This would be sensible if YouTube’s copyright claim system wasn’t so vulnerable to abuse. Normal (yellow) demonetisation will pay out from Premium though. youtu.be/PRQVzPEyldc?si=5-wFn2SqPZLdOlqa
    • Features are removed from YouTube to incentivise Premium such as playing videos while your phone screen is locked.
    • Similar to above, Google have been increasing the amount of ads particularly on phones where ad blockers are harder to use. I.E. pushing users to Premium not by making the service better, but by making non-Premium worse.
    unfnknblvbl,

    Google having a history of all the videos you watch via your account.

    They already do this anyway. They also do it whether you have an account or not.

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Fyi all the removed features of the YouTube app they want you to pay for? Work fine on Firefox

    conorab,

    Playing while locked doesn’t seem to work unfortunately in Firefox for iOS. You can do the trick where you start PIP and then immediately lock the phone to play in the background, but that only works if you don’t unlock your phone again.

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s weird. On Android I just take the “notification” and can press play and it’ll work just fine.

    iOS always has been finnicky

    dubyakay,

    Your utub link seems to contain a tracking Id.

    conorab,

    Not particularly surprising. It was copied from the YouTube iOS app…

    anarchy79,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    Meta-evil

    Balthazar,
    @Balthazar@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Point one: I’m pretty certain they already track that. With or without account. And you’re on the internet, without a VPN there is no privacy. You are also able to remove that history any moment you want. Is it Ideal? No. But you should’ve acted 10-15 years prior if you wanted to stop this. It’s still not ideal though.

    Point two: I agree. There does need to be space for them to repent, but they aren’t actively trying to, so don’t trust them (see the next point as an example of that).

    Point three That’s a shame. They really need to fix that, though with how corpos do things nowadays, not sure that’ll happen.

    Point four: That’s normal, expected and a reasonable business decision. Most of these features they likely added after premium, and they’re meant as incentives. Why else would you want to but their premium, if not for the added features?

    Point five: This is shitty and mostly inexcusable behaviour. It’s god awful, and they really shouldn’t do it. I do have to play devil’s advocate a little. They are fully, 100% in their right to do this. If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet (and time). If we stop using their services, they’ll stop making it worse. They are still A-holes for doing it though.

    uzay,

    Point one: I’m pretty certain they already track that. With or without account. And you’re on the internet, without a VPN there is no privacy. You are also able to remove that history any moment you want.

    I mean sure, they could try combining the user agents my unofficial apps provide with my carrier’s NAT IP to build a profile on me, but it would be highly inefficient and imprecise to the point where it’s almost useless for them. With a Youtube Premium account they have an identity tied to an email address, full name, and payment info that they can relate every click in their apps and websites to. If I also use their other services with the same account, I would be paying them to spy on everything I do and sell my data, so other companies can sell me crap.

    Balthazar,
    @Balthazar@sopuli.xyz avatar

    If you’ve already got that much of a set-up to guarantee privacy, it’s a very good point. Most people aren’t that dedicated to privacy (I think), but it’s still a very valid point in your case

    conorab,

    I would be very interested to know how good they are at tracking a user across brand new browser sessions. I have mine set to delete cookies, cache and history (minus a few trusted domains) on close but I’d imagine it would be easy to differentiate between me and others in my household by browser fingerprints alone. The only question then is whether those guesses are reliable enough for Google to essentially treat those sessions as 1 person, or throw it away since there are bound to be quite a lot of cases where 10s or 100s of people on the same IP have very similar browsing habits and configurations and trying to figure out who is who would be incredibly difficult (think offices where everybody could have exactly the same laptop and share similar browsing habits due to working for the same company). That’s my cope anyway. The alternative is Youtube over Tor for which would be painful.

    Points 4 and 5 on my end are essentially two sides to of the same coin. I should clarify, I don’t have a problem with YouTube introducing a new feature and making that Premium-only.

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    What about the reasons to buy premium? Pretty much none right?

    conorab,

    I mean, fair. The two big reasons are that your views are worth much more than normal viewers to creators, so it does mean you’re helping support the content you watch. Further, the more people who pay for content the less influence advertisers have. All this said, I would assume that $5 a month to your favorite creators (Patreon, Paypal, Librepay, etc) would be worth more to them than a share of your YouTube Premium subscription fee.

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    That’s what I’m thinking. The day I have a job I would much rather support my favourite creators directly than pay YouTube and hope for some trickle down effect

    GrindingGears, (edited ) to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Why does this matter? Do we need to appease the shareholders or something? Do we need endless month over month growth, lest the world completely stops turning?

    Do we need SYNERGIES??!!!?

    Gorilladrums,

    It just signals that this platform is flawed to the point where it’s bleeding to death. Keep in mind, a bigger userbase = more active community = better platform.

    TAG,
    @TAG@lemmy.world avatar

    If there are no users, there will be no new contents added.

    If there are a lot of users (many more than there are now), there will be enough people around to support all sorts of niche communities, like Reddit had.

    Robust_Mirror,

    Active user count is probably the single most important metric to whether a platform is successful and stays alive. Even above quality of content, as proven by many other social media platforms that thrive despite being flooded with trash content.

    No one wants to hang out in a ghost town.

    Abnorc,

    As a Lemmy shareholder, I’m outraged. If Lemmy doesn’t get more users soon, I am going to stop the thrusters that keep the world turning. You have been warned.

    riodoro1, to memes in YouTube

    Im not holding my breath for someone to start hosting petabytes of videos for free. I don’t like ads, so I’m just going to pay.

    EarthlingHazard,

    It’s also cool that YouTube Premium pays a bigger cut to creators when compared against regular YouTube ads.

    hungryphrog,

    If you want to support Youtubers, then buy their merch or something like that.

    EarthlingHazard, (edited )

    The cost of supporting every YouTuber I watch with merch greatly outpaces the cost of a few years of premium

    hungryphrog,

    Maybe, but at least it doesn’t give money to google.

    MashedTech,

    I do like that.

    anarchy79,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    How much? I doubt it’s more than just enough to make people think that, “oh that’s nice”, while doing some absurd minimum…

    2xsaiko,
    @2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    You say that as if it’s the only option while being on a platform that explicitly isn’t a single organization hosting the entire thing. There’s no way this is a serious comment.

    Takumidesh,

    Lemmy has 50 thousand users and hosts mostly text and static images. YouTube has 2.7 billion users and hosts mostly high quality video. Pretending it’s even remotely the same is pointless.

    2xsaiko,
    @2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Of course, and that’s why something like PeerTube works differently.

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Counterpoint. There used to be far less ads

    Annoyed_Crabby, to comicstrips in "Proposal" by Shenx Comic

    “And thus, the first known dwarf began their journey deep down the earth. They’re short not because of genetic, no, they just prefer short partner, as they’re perceived as more down-to-earth.”

    BudgetBandit, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    So do the new posts and everything. But Reddit is a shithole and Omegle got sued to death, online gaming is either a full time job or a money sink, streaming services start to cancel out each other and most of the regular games and their performance suck ass.

    Guess I’ll just be productive then.

    Jamie,
    @Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

    Indie games are the only thing keeping gaming alive for me, for the most part. All the AAA games I play are older titles. Doing the GTAV story with a trainer has been a pretty fun time lately for me.

    GreenMario,

    Retro emulation here. 40 years of back catalog games to go through.

    BudgetBandit,

    Haha i recently got $ 120 worth of converters to get HDMI to SCART to play those old games the way they’re meant to be played.

    Extra bought a 16:9 Sony Triniton CRT TV for that.

    Output to input: MacBook Air M1 - USB-C - HDMI - YPbPr - RGB (or RCA, the three cables) - SCART - TV

    SheDiceToday,

    Wait, I just want to make sure I’m getting this. You’re going through five converters before plugging into the tv? Counting the computer->USBc as a converter…

    BudgetBandit,

    Technically yes. In reality it’s just 2 “real” converters who both need their own power supply. Once from digital to HD analogue, and then from that to SD. For input lag, it’s a lot less than the 20 ms of input lag the HDMI 2 input of my Sony Bravia TV.

    GreenMario,

    I bought a $75 handheld emulator lol. Plays up to some PS2 and fits in my pocket. Micro HDMI out turns it to a console too.

    ekZepp, (edited )
    @ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

    Posting is half of the fun. Especially contents who bring others to comment and share opinion and new info.

    ChrisLicht,

    I hate to admit this, but I’ve started using Reddit again. It pains me, but there is stuff I just can’t get here.

    Kerensky1101,

    Same here. I like the idea of Lemmy but the decentralization makes it really difficult to find the content I want. Reddits centralization, while causing some problems, definitely made it easy to find communities. That lack of ease is what makes Lemmy not as easy to use for new people.

    UnRelatedBurner,

    there should be a “find the community” or something, where u can post ur niche and ppl will link where they discuss that

    ALostInquirer,

    Have you checked out !lemmy411? For some reason I don’t see it mentioned or linked to much, but it’s basically that, which I think would feel much more approachable to new people than pointing them to tools like Lemmyverse (as much as I do really appreciate it).

    Another good one for sharing communities you’ve stumbled across would be !wowthislemmyexists.

    UnRelatedBurner,

    Saved both communites, but don’t tell me this. Tell it to: @JaymesRS

    JaymesRS,

    Thanks.

    JaymesRS,

    There’s also the problem where I totally want to start a community (for example: Marble Racing), but I don’t know where a good home would be for it and I don’t think my home instance would be a good home.

    UnRelatedBurner,

    does it really matter that much? If people search it up, it will pop up. Even better if they discover it via a link.

    JaymesRS,

    I think it does a bit. The obvious one would be for porn on general purpose instances. Alternatively, my primary instance for example is a bit of a niche one related to reading, so a sports or politics community could feel disjointed especially for the admins/mods who manage the community.

    UnRelatedBurner,

    I hear ya, but I can’t help ya. Sorry. Good luck tho!

    JaymesRS,

    No worries, I wasn’t really expecting help. I appreciate your try though.

    BlackPenguins,

    Same, but I only use it for TV show discussions. I haven’t been on the main page since June.

    twinnie,

    Same here. I lurk more on Lemmy but if I want to discuss some niche topic then Reddit is so easy to I don’t use that fucking app though, website or 3rd party.

    Apollo2323,

    I used from time to time but I just can’t forget how shitty they were with the mods and the users overall.

    arandomthought,

    Eyyy, wellcome to enshitification!

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    Guess I’ll just be productive then.

    Never!

    jballs,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I will be posting 1 upvote (mine) and 0 comment posts until I die instead of choosing to be productive.

    stom,
    @stom@lemmy.world avatar

    Try Deep Rock Galactic! It is neither a full time job or a money sink. Any purchases are purely cosmetic, seasons are entirely free and there are regular updates.

    AlexWIWA,

    I’ve gone back to playing old games. It helps

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