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Yerbouti, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Personnaly, I’m really enjoying it. You can interact without the Reddit toxicity. I miss a few specialized communities but I can live without it.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

The behavior is describe as toxic definitely still exists here, and it’s worse because the morons tend to get up voted by other morons.

tahoe,

Yup, Lemmy is just as toxic if not more on some aspects

reev, (edited )

I think the difference is that I have experienced a lot of people engaging constructively with comments that they definitely wouldn’t have on reddit.

(Not that they would have reacted badly, they just wouldn’t have gotten responses at all)

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

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  • c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s irrelevant, it shows that the hive mind trends toward the stupid opinion.

    AlexWIWA,

    Yeah Reddit just sucks now. I don’t care much about karma, but it can be discouraging to type out a long answer to help someone and just get a downvote with no comment or anything. Over and over again.

    The influx of people who don’t know how the site is supposed to work, on top of the usual toxicity, has just ruined it for me.

    DrBob, to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic
    @DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

    The oldest millenials are in their 40s. Who is drawing these things?

    CptOblivius,

    As a “Millennial” in the 40s, myself and others my similar age don’t ever seem to fit into the millennial category well. The start should be in the mid 1980’s not the beginning. Gen x seems more fitting for the early 80s. But the generation thing is kind of silly anyway.

    garbagebagel,

    Hm I thought this whole time it was the mid decade like 85-94, 65-84. It is silly though, nobody has the exact same upbringing just because they’re born in a certain year.

    lolcatnip,

    People born around 1980 are Xennials or the Oregon Trail generation. We’re kind of a blend of gen X and millennials.

    charonn0,
    @charonn0@startrek.website avatar

    the Oregon Trail generation

    This is the one.

    BarrelAgedBoredom,

    Boomers, or millennials with boomer energy. Really anyone that wants to shit on “the youth”

    ExfilBravo, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    Social media as a whole is slowing down I think. People are starting to realize it makes them angry, sad, and annoyed.

    DaCookeyMonsta,

    I’m doing the least social media I’ve done since Facebook became a thing and now I realize that without those emotions I’m just kind of bored.

    Sami_Uso,

    *boring

    DaCookeyMonsta,

    Thanks bud.

    Tak,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    Find a hobby or learn something. The internet has so much to give that isn’t outrage and horror.

    He’s a guy I like watching now and again building a solar array by himself

    khannie,
    @khannie@lemmy.world avatar

    Well that was a fascinating watch. Thanks for the link. I’ll definitely be watching more of his videos.

    Advocado,

    Good god, I sure hope so.

    ComradeR,

    Internet in general is becoming boring and tedious. Don’t know if it’s because of my age (Started to use internet when I was 13yo now I’m 31) but the internet isn’t that exciting and curiosity inducing place to me.

    ALostInquirer,

    Have you continued exploring, or found yourself settling in more?

    For me any place stagnates when I start settling into it, so I try to find a new angle, a new question to ask of it, and eventually something gives way to something exciting and fascinating that was right around the corner the whole time.

    ComradeR,

    I continued exploring it. But, aside of one or other interesting sites that catch my attention for long periods of time (e.g. TvTropes), I can’t find internet amusing as I used to do in my childhood/teens. Sometimes I pick a good site that keep me entertained while browsing CloudHiker, but isn’t the same thing anymore.

    Rodeo,

    This ain’t a problem with the internet, it’s just because you’re getting older and you’ve seen more things.

    ch00f,

    I literally bought a Lightphone II because I was spending too much time on reddit. Like, I’d stay in bed for an hour just scrolling.

    I’ve recently slacked off and started keeping my iPhone (on wifi) next to me when I sleep. I loose interest in like 20 minutes.

    I’ve made a point of not posting or commenting on reddit since the recent debacle, but it’s really frustrating when I have some OC that would be great for a niche community that just doesn’t exist in any real numbers on lemmy.

    like Playdate dev or Framework laptop.

    ShitOnABrick,
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    There’s nothing wrong with browsing your social media whereever that be Facebook or Instagram or messageboards like lemmy reddit or 4chan just as long as it’s not impacting your life. Could be a good way to catch up on friends and pass the time. Although “social media detoxing” can be really good for your mental health

    greedytacothief, to comicstrips in "Kirby Lore" by Shenx Comic

    Just to give things some scale, the longest book series in WH 40k is the hours heresy. It’s 60+ books. And that takes place in the 30th millennium, so it’s just background to current times lore.

    There are more than 300 novels to read, and that’s just counting novels. There are also codexes (codecies?), other supplementary books, other game books (like dark heresy), and the many issues of the white dwarf magazine.

    How absurd must Kirby lore be then?

    CallumWells,

    How many hours were the heresy? ;P

    Cypher, (edited )

    At a 10h~ average for each audio novel I would say at least 600 hours

    roscoe,

    Are the novels good? I’m not interested in any of the tabletop stuff but I’d love to have a shitload of books to read.

    Auzymundius, (edited )

    I think some of them are pretty good! My favorites are the Ciaphas Cain series and Eisenhorn series. Gaunts Ghosts is also good if you want a more serious military read. If you want non-humans, check out “The Infinite and the Divine”. It’s about necrons (highly advanced ancient space robots/terminators).

    snugglesthefalse,

    I finally got round to listening to a bunch of 40k stuff, I’ve read some in the past but not a lot and it’s been a while. I started with the ciaphas cain series, it’s somewhat comedic at times and the main character reluctantly gets into situations thanks to his heroic reputation. Lots of fun. Now I’ve been going through a bunch of Dan Abnett’s stuff, eisenhorn and gaunt’s ghosts. They both take themselves a lot more seriously. There’s like 11 cain books and 16? Gaunt’s ghosts books. It’s all down to preference but I’ve been enjoying the guard-focused books a lot.

    greedytacothief,

    I think it’s worth getting into, but you will quickly find authors you like and ones you dislike. I think the worst part of reading 40k is that you’ll find a book you like, but it isn’t a part of a larger series. For example hellsreach, or rin’s world.

    Maybe watch some YouTube videos about the setting first to see what interests you about the lore, and then start with books about that.

    abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    Warhammer, both Fantasy/AoS and 40k, have a billion books so if that’s what you want, I’d say definitely check out at least a couple of the different series. Horus Heresy was mentioned, then there’s a different series about Egyptian space terminators that is highly recommended, think the book is called Infinite and the Divine, then there’s all the Ciaphas Cain books, really there is an ungodly amount, and all of that is just 40k.

    On the Fantasy side, most highly regarded is probably Gotrek and Felix, a guy and a dwarf that travel and kill monsters and shit.

    There are a shit ton of series to choose from, you could easily spend a long time reading only Black Library if that’s what you’d like.

    Kecessa,

    I started putting Luetin09’s lore videos in the background while I work and fucking hell, there’s a lot of shit going on! I never even played W40k!

    denast,

    Don’t worry, most worldwide fans didn’t either. Outside of first world countries few can afford such a hobby so a big chunk of the community are just lore enjoyers

    HRDS_654,

    To give you a hint, Kirby is actually an eldrich god.

    ChicoSuave,

    Who eats other Old Ones

    blanketswithsmallpox,

    That’s it. That’s the lore. That’s how much people like to hype up kirby lore despite it being a big ol nothingburger. That’s why he’s just so upset about all that hype and then… the big reveal. Kirby eat things.

    Sombyr,

    There’s also the fact that there are other potential incarnations of Kirby also wandering around the universe, except they’re evil. Also they seem to be able to kill omnipotent gods somehow. And potentially create them too. I think there was also something about Nova or whatever his name was being made by the same species Kirby is?
    Which, because they’re all dead except Kirby and Metaknight implied that there’s something capable of killing them, too, that we’ve never seen.

    Also Kirby probably never killed 0. It would seem he can’t die in fact. And he seems to be what happens when Kirby reincarnates as evil instead of good.
    The final boss of Kirby Squeak Squad is implied to be an incarnation of 0. In Japan his name is even “Dark 0.”

    Kirby lore is basically “Lovecraft for Kids” if you ask me. Way simpler than traditional cosmic horror, but it has the same elements.

    brsrklf,

    The latest villain in the series was unusually weird, IMO

    ::: spoiler especially with the whole lab experiment treatment and cartoon biological horror moments. Also the unknown fate of the people who used its power to depart for some dream dimension or whatever. :::

    ChicoSuave,

    In the last game, Forgotten Land, Kirby fights against a god level dimension warping motherfucker who corrupted all the animals and steals souls for power. After being Kirb stomped, Fecto Elfilis creates a pocket dimension to escape to that contains all the souls and warped versions of the bosses. A pivotal part of the end boss build up is a wall of flesh/psychic material chases after you, the goopy mass swarming with the faces of those it’s consumed.

    This isnt even lore yet - it’s gameplay. Kirby is also haunted by Meta Knight, space wizards from other dimensions, and so much more. It isn’t hype to just talk about what’s happening in the game.

    thirstyhyena,

    So Meta Knight and such are the good guys? (Serious question)

    ChicoSuave,

    Depends on the game as the characters grow from enemies to conflicted allies who have to fight wizards and extra dimensional beasts. But yeah, they’re pretty chill around each other as long as no one fucks with the Waddle Dees.

    ryathal,

    It’s less about length and more about absurdity and power levels. As a rough translation, imagine if everything ever done by chaos was defeated by a single entity that ate them. That’s basically how Kirby lore works.

    valaramech, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @valaramech@kbin.social avatar

    I won't lie. I mostly don't engage with content I see here. I didn't do that when I was on Reddit either and mostly for the same reason: I don't really have much to say and, even when I do have an opinion, I don't usually want to engage in what's often a protracted debate about something that will probably just end up being frustrating.

    That's not to say I haven't had positive experiences on the Fediverse - I've had more here than anywhere else - I'm just not particularly motivated most of the time.

    Kwakigra,

    I do most of my discourse on Beehaw which is protected in many ways. When I used reddit I would often have a comment typed out ready to post and think better of it since I knew it would only drive dismissive and antagonistic responses of the stupidest kind. It may be because of the protections or it may be because of the smaller community but I find a lot less posturing and a lot more actual conversation since I’ve been using this platform. This is what keeps me here rather than reddit. It might be worth engaging in conversations you wouldn’t have on reddit when you’re interested.

    Rentlar, (edited )

    I agree… Beehaw is such a wonderful and special place on the internet. I have an account there but I try to keep it separate from my main Lemmy.ca one so that I better hold myself accountable to the server rules, in order to foster nicer discourse.

    Rentlar, (edited )

    Well, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts.

    There are a number of thread topics on Lemmy that seem to keep going the same direction (Google, Musk, Gaza, Trump, Windows, etc.), and as you say, it can be frustrating and exhausting…

    At the same tine on Lemmy, I had found articles that were worthwhile reading, updates to FOSS that I would have otherwise missed, no shortage of silly memes, and a handful of new perspectives that were positively thought provoking. Those let me look past most of the negative things and stuff that is pervasive on all kinds of forums, Reddit and social media on the whole.

    Obi, (edited )
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I’ll happily participate with light-hearted content but otherwise I mostly feel like you when it comes to any polarising topics like politics, etc. I wish there were more content about my areas of expertise so I could participate in that but alas there’s mostly developer stuff only. Maybe I’m also not doing my best curating my feed since I tend to mostly browse all.

    anonionfinelyminced, to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic
    @anonionfinelyminced@kbin.social avatar

    Wait, does Gen Z even read newspapers? Totally blew away my suspension of disbelief.

    jol,

    Each generation does something to spite the previous. Gen Z reads the papers ironically.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Eh I don’t mind if they do that?

    jol,

    I didn’t say its a bad thing. It’s just a constant across generations.

    EmergMemeHologram,

    The problem: it’s The Sun (take your pick of regional version), the only newspaper that Gen Z can afford.

    x4740N,
    @x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m gen z

    I have never read them except out of Boredom

    Most news I read online, but even the news gets boring sometimes

    EmergMemeHologram,

    I wish the news was boring more often

    MNByChoice, (edited )

    I have never read them except out of Boredom

    Fun Fact: this has always been true. That and avoiding the children. In the days of outhouses, sitting on the toilet for hours was not great. So they read newspapers.

    Edit: I was more being funny about wasting time in the bathroom too avoid child responsibility. People have often needed long times to make things work. The person that responded to me had some great points.

    EmergMemeHologram,

    There was a whole genre of books called “bathroom readers”.

    MNByChoice,

    You are right. Thank you

    EmergMemeHologram,

    Reader’s Digest was literal!

    marcos,

    I’m not sure if I could manage to get a paper newspaper nowadays if I went out looking for it.

    RoquetteQueen,
    @RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Before me, an elderly lady lived in my place. I still get her newspaper every week. Maybe one day I’ll remember to cancel it.

    smort,
    @smort@lemmy.world avatar

    I signed up with my local paper. Got the cheapest yearly subscription they offered that gave me full access to their articles online.

    It came with delivery of the Sunday paper every week. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    thecrotch,

    Hipsters brought back vinyl records, I could see them doing the same for papers

    Death_Equity,

    They would have the Pennysaver, the WSJ, that local paper made by someone with a trust fund who practices “real” journalism, or some anti-government conspiracy “paper” made at Kinko’s.

    Newspapers are going the way of the dodo.

    NorthWestWind, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?
    @NorthWestWind@lemmy.world avatar

    People had multiple accounts because servers were unstable. Now that stability has increased we’re just abandoning the alts.

    namingthingsiseasy,

    Yeah, “monthly active users” does not necessarily mean “unique monthly active users”.

    I would much rather see activity statistics like posts+comments or something like that. As long as those are looking good, then new unique users will continue to join gradually.

    ExLisper,

    Yep, can confirm. Over the last couple of week I closed 20.000 alts.

    b3nsn0w,
    @b3nsn0w@pricefield.org avatar

    the average lemmy user has 3 alts factoid is just statistical error. the average lemmy user has 0 alts. alts georg, who lives on linux.community apparently and has 20,000 alts, is a statistical outlier adn should not be counted

    UndefinedIsNotAFunction,

    Can confirm.

    AlecSadler,

    Absolutely the case for me, I had like 5-6 alts, now I use maybe two.

    aeronmelon, to memes in Golf
    HerrVorragend,
    @HerrVorragend@lemmy.world avatar

    “¡He visto eso!”

    Siegfried,

    *“Eso ya lo ví”

    LadyAutumn, (edited ) to piracy in Mangadex and Batoto extensions have been removed due complaints from copyright holders

    Someone will surely find a workaround to this. Half my library on tachiyomi is from mangadex lol

    Edit: I did find a workaround, an unofficial repository for mangadex and bato extensions. As of the moment bato extension seems to be broken, but hopefully a patch will be released soon. The developer of the extension still plans to maintain it afaik

    throws_lemy,
    @throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

    About one-third my library from batoto 😭

    but hopefully a patch will be released soon.

    I really hope for this

    dvdnet89,
    @dvdnet89@lemmy.today avatar

    30% of my mangas are located on mangadex and the others are located on different sources. That’s good because my migration process to other sources is not really tedious. That’s why diversification of different sources are important nowadays

    Kolanaki, (edited ) to comicstrips in "Kirby Lore" by Shenx Comic
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Imagine all the people who would do the Matrix thing and learn martial arts… Only to gain the wisdom that knowing how to do martial arts doesn’t make it any easier when you’re fat and out of shape.

    ThatWeirdGuy1001, (edited )
    @ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean a core part of most martial arts is just learning how to control the body.

    Knowing how to move would still be a decent advantage for someone like that

    Honytawk,

    People do martial arts to get into shape though.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    And those with motivation and willpower do it the old fashioned way. Plenty of people would jump at the chance to take a shortcut like downloading the knowledge into their brain, only to realize knowledge alone doesn’t make one a kung fu master.

    Couldbealeotard,
    @Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

    The Matrix thing is only really useful when you go inside the Matrix, where your limits are your mental strength. Outside the Matrix you’re still a weedy little person. Look at when Neo and Bane/Smith fought: it was messy, ugly, and the opposite of choreographed martial arts.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Ironically, the matrix is also the one place where you can negate the need for kung fu because you can just alter reality with your thoughts by simply believing hard enough.

    Couldbealeotard,
    @Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

    Theoretically, but even Neo, the most powerful RedPill, could only bend the rules. His control over flight, bullets, things warping under stress around him, etc, is as close as he got to altering the virtual reality.

    Just like the Agents, you can bend the rules, but you are still bound by them.

    FrasseFisk, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    We need more idiots who can comment “this” on everything

    chromeo,

    Thizz

    bignate,

    this

    yoz,

    +1

    yoz,

    This

    crawancon,

    this.

    TIN,

    And my axe!

    Karyoplasma,

    this

    SwingingTheLamp,

    I, too, choose this guy’s wife.

    onlooker,
    @onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

    dis

    Supermikea,

    This

    randomivysaur,

    psstthis

    rmuk,

    I’m sure it won’t just be anot- why, you little scamp!

    thechadwick,

    I completely disagree. What this place needs is a bunch of bot accounts that endlessly spam the top comments from when whatever’s posted was on the front page last week.

    Or the week before that I guess…

    notepass,

    Gonna build spezify_bot which will do that, copy over comments and comment “this” and “finally someone said it!” below the top comments. Maybe even some “I came here to say this, too!” at some points?

    gohixo9650,

    This!

    TheWanderer,

    This

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    i second this

    Supermikea,

    I third this

    Dewbs84,

    That?

    Scolding7300,

    I turd

    rmuk,

    I shidded and farded.

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    This

    sock, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

    lemmy still isnt nearly as good as reddit was by a long shot. niche communities suck, porn sucks, c/all content isnt bad but if you scroll once youll just repeat everything on refresh.

    but god damn the reddit app is terrible now and the content sucks there now too it literally feels like its trying to be a tik tok clone.

    dullbananas,
    @dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

    Quit porn

    sock, (edited )

    this is a crazy take to make from my comment but i respect ur grind ig

    but no, porn and jerking off is good for you abstaining has no benefits and never will. and i can confirm im much healthier and far more shredded than youll ever be.

    troyunrau,
    @troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

    Pro-tip: sort All by New Comments. Yes, if you refresh, you get repeat content, but you also find the unusual stuff and the repeated stuff is where the conversations are happening.

    ieightpi,

    And when reddit was at its best, it took years to gather those user numbers. I just dont understand why people keep missing this point.

    Schmeckinger,

    Lemmy isn’t on an upwards trend.

    ieightpi,

    Of a few months…?

    Schmeckinger,

    The problem is that this is a spiral. Less users results in less content and smaller communities dying, which in turn leads to less users.

    iemgus,

    Since the fall of reddit, I feel like I don’t know how to internet anymore.

    LemmyKnowsBest,

    I miss the good ol’ days when everyone on the planet was free to make their own unique websites using JavaScript and HTML. Now all we have is google twitter tiktok instagram LinkedIn

    rab,

    You can still do that, just your website will never be seen because it won’t come up on search engines

    intensely_human, to comicstrips in "Millennial lingo" by Shen Comic

    How is this millennial lingo?

    buddascrayon,

    Because everyone under 25 is a millennial. There is no other generation between or after genX and millennials.

    CaptnNMorgan,

    Aren’t millennials in their 30’s?

    DontTreadOnBigfoot,
    @DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

    Closer to 40 than 30, at this point

    intensely_human,

    Time keeps on slippin

    Obi, (edited )
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    > 50 = boomer < 25 = millennial

    For everything else, there’s MasterCard

    Peter1986C,
    @Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

    Because everyone under 25 is a millennial

    Nope.

    (I advise to check e.g. Wikipedia on this matter)

    buddascrayon,

    I know sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet but come on. Do I really have to add the /s to my post for you to get that I was being facetious?

    Pratai,

    It’s not.

    Dettweiler42,

    Proper millennial lingo: Shit’s on fire, yo

    charonn0,
    @charonn0@startrek.website avatar

    More of a motto, really.

    kplaceholder, to memes in YouTube
    @kplaceholder@lemmy.world avatar

    Not to be rude, but I’m struggling to believe half the comments in this thread are legit. Do you really mean to tell me that Lemmy, a platform notoriously populated almost exclusively by anti-corporate tech people that really value FOSS and privacy –hence the reason why all of us are here instead of Reddit– has this many users thinking it is a remotely acceptable idea to pay for a Premium service for one of the most invasive companies online?

    I think most of us understand the many underhanded techniques used by Google to achieve an almost monopolistic control of some aspects of the internet, but when talking about YouTube, suddenly all the logic is reduced to “if you use a service, pay for it, or else let them show you ads”?? what??? Also, what’s with comparing adblocking to stealing???

    My own answer to the topic of this thread is that no, I won’t be paying for YouTube Premium anytime soon, possibly ever. Google has betrayed my trust many times in the past, and on top of that I don’t consider adverts as a legitimate source of income, so I will block any and all ads everywhere without paying an extra cent.

    “But if you keep using their service, so you need to give them some form of revenue! Otherwise you just want free stuff!” I only keep using their service because Google has spent many years dumping on other platforms so that YouTube is –almost– the only platform that still exists where all the good creators are, so I will begrudgingly watch them on YouTube because there aren’t any options. But I will resist Google’s many insidious attempts to monetize me to the best of my ability while doing so.

    That said, it’s really dishonest to claim that people who block ads on YouTube just want free stuff and don’t understand that services have a cost. Personally, I pay for Nebula because I do support the project and the creators involved. But YouTube won’t see a cent from me, not with my consent at least.

    AVengefulAxolotl,

    Absolutely agree with the youtube subscription part. I am not giving them money if i can.

    So what do I do? Patreon. I watch ad free, and i give 1 dollar a month instead on patreon. Win-win.

    P.S. However, this way only a select few get money from me, but it is what it is.

    InputZero,

    Shoutout to Nebula! I might pay for it but it’s like old YouTube without the bullshit. Worth it in my opinion.

    Xavienth,

    For me it’s a matter of practicality. I wouldn’t pay if I didn’t feel I had to. It’s easy to block ads on PC, sure. Other devices, less so. I could get a Pihole or similar but then iirc you have to basically be playing cat and mouse with Google ad domains and that just sounds like a headache.

    MystikIncarnate,

    Not everyone is on Lemmy because they’re anti-corporate, FOSS enthusiasts. For example, I came here because Reddit became a dumpster fire of unreasonable policies and very restrictive accessibility to the site. I simply will not install their app. Everything I’ve seen and heard about it is revolting. I’m certain I will hate it and I’m not going to bother trying at this point. Since a nontrivial amount of my time on Reddit was via an app, and that app no longer works, I’m just not going to use the service.

    I like FOSS, and I support FOSS whenever I can, but I’m hardly anti corporate. The big G has tried and failed at getting monopoly status for most things. Arguably their most successful services are search, mail and YouTube.

    Me, personally, I pay for Google’s services and share those benefits with my family. We have extra Google drive storage, YouTube music/YouTube premium, and all the benefits that come with that (I don’t recall all of them right now). One payment takes care of my entire household. So for less than $20/month we all enjoy all the benefits of those subscriptions. It comes out to less than $5/person/month.

    I don’t blame anyone for not wanting those services. I certainly don’t hold that against them. I completely understand the viewpoint. YouTube is very aggressive about everyone having premium. I see ads on YouTube when I’m using it on my work PC for music or to look something up on there; because my personal Google account is not and will never be associated to my work PC. I see what it’s like “on the other side” so to speak. I can see how aggro their efforts are to get people to subscribe to premium. How invasive the ads have become, and how annoying it is to deal with all that. I get it.

    I also don’t really hate Google for it. They want people to buy their premium service and they have taken steps to try to encourage that. I understand, but I don’t necessarily agree with their choices.

    In my mind they’re not the most egregious offender for being anti consumer in their methodology. Good examples of anti-consumer behaviour is Netflix trying to put an end to account sharing, or Reddit’s API changes that basically kicked out a nontrivial number of its users for seemingly no good reason. There’s plenty more anti consumer actions from other companies that I can point to that are far worse than what YouTube is doing.

    In my mind, Google has supported FOSS more than most big tech companies. Android, at it’s core is FOSS, built on Linux. Chrome is based on chromium, which is FOSS as well. There’s numerous other examples of Google supporting FOSS. Sure, they have their own versions of that integrate Google services into the products and provide extra features on top of what the FOSS versions do. But I can’t think of any company that even comes close to the support of FOSS that Google has. In my mind they’re simply not the worst offender. They’re not innocent, but not the worst.

    That’s my opinion though and it’s just one of many possible opinions. Far be it for me to impose my opinion on anyone else. If you want to distrust Google and use FOSS things instead, that’s fine. It’s your choice. If you agree but still don’t want to pay them for premium, that’s okay too. Or if you want to drink the Kool-aid and pay for all of their services, that’s also your choice.

    Have a great day.

    captainWhatsHisName,

    I started using nebula which costs $30/year (discounted price, easy to get). It has some of the YouTube creators, shares revenue with them, has no ads, and isn’t google.

    Sure it has a fraction of the YouTube content, but there’s more new stuff there every day than I could watch. And it isn’t toxic like YouTube.

    EastSideRock,

    Half the community came from reddit during 3rd party app purge it’s no surprise they wouldn’t be too concerned or know anything about privacy

    Sheeple,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    See my other comment. I also noted a lot of the accounts that promote YouTube premium, are less than a week old. So there is suspicion of trolling or astroturfing

    winterayars,

    I’ve been riding an old “premium” subscription from the introduction of Google Play Music (or whatever it was called) years ago when it was introduced, for like $3/month. Seemed like a reasonable deal to me.

    They did just (finally) jack the price up on me, though, so as soon as i get some free time i’m canceling.

    RIP_Cheems, to comicstrips in "Kirby Lore" by Shenx Comic
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    KIRBY IS A GOD UNIRONICALY AND HAS KILLED MULTIPLE GODS BOTH INTENTIONALLY AND UNITENTIONALLY, OFTEN OVER FOOD.

    Johanno,

    I ❤️Kirby

    Ironfist,

    OK, BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING?

    RIP_Cheems,
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    EMPHASIS

    kirbykirbz,

    CAN YOU BLAME ME THOUGH?

    RIP_Cheems, (edited )
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    YOU KILLED THE GOD OF KNOWLEDGE OVER A CAKE AND THEN LET A FUCKING GREMLIN GET THE POWER AND SHROWED THE WORLD IN DARKNESS. YES I BLAME YOU.

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