Lol what will you say them? Your IP won’t be shared to other websites, but only to Google, switch your browser now! That will be so dumb…
I won’t tell them much. I will suggest they read it and let them know I will gladly answer any question they may have after reading it.
They’re just ignorant of the technical considerations but they still have a fully working brain, and given some lead they should easily understand the topic at hand (a bit like, say, if I discussed the differences in the process of painting watercolor versus oil or gouache while you have yourself never painted a canvas in your live I would not consider you too dumb to understand, or laugh at you, I would instead take some time to explain you what are those essential differences and why they matter. Well, this article will do exactly that in regard to Google, for those persons).
As I wrote in my first comment, this article is a nice and clear summary of the issue (Google privacy-washing) and should help them understand or, if you prefer, realize that this issue may be worth getting more into it. Then, could begin our discussion.
Don’t you agree that understanding there is an issue is a required starting point for anyone to take any decision in order to try to correct said issue?
As for the rest of your well thought-out comment, here is my take: I hope they will change, and not just their browser, but I certainly will not tell them to change or to do anything they don’t want.
I know we live in this strange new world, where hostility and mockery is becoming the norm, but barking orders or Loling at the face of people is not what a discussion is supposed to be. Maybe that is something that’s worth repeating, no matter how dumb it sounds.
For me, the main issue will be to get people who have not considered the big picture to realize that even if it helps reduce a real issue, and it does, the solution may be worse or much more costly than the issue. Even more so in the long run.
Think the best response when I've told someone that their data is getting harvest was "Why wouldn't I want that?". That puts the statement of "I have nothing to hide" to shame
That is a real problem. In a perfect world you would want all of your data to be available to everyone who can use it to improve your live. And only getting advertisement for things you actually want/need (not only think you want/need) is a real improvement of your live.
Sadly “improving lives of consumers” is not the goal of any of the big data collectors and as such any data collected is or will be missused to cause harm to the owner even if it is not directly obvious.
Thanks for the link, the part about disabling Ad privacy in Android is also helpful, I had no idea about this and all of it was turned on after the last os update.
The twisted reasoning is probably so that the users can access the emails anywhere with their live account (and so that MS can scrape those mails for all sorts of creepy shit)
Any outlook alternative that doesn’t look pre-dotcom? I really liked the Microsoft Mail app for its simplicity and the ability to have multiple inboxes, it’s a shame it is being replaced by outlook.
Most of the modern ones do store certain information on servers, though. Spark and Mailbird both do. Mailspring does as well if I recall correctly.
Most modern mail app developers seem to think that it’s more important to do search indexing and account storage on a server for ease of use, and expect inherent trust, foregoing all sense of real privacy under the veil of “we’re not evil, we promise.”
I’ve yet to find an email client that has a good modern look and feel, but doesn’t try to use server-side storage for some UX convenience factor.
I want the look and feel and mail host integrations of Spark (OAuth, like GMail, or preconfigs of hosts like iCloud) with the dumb-pipe-ness of Thunderbird. That’s the email unicorn I’m after.
ghacks.net
Oldest