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Vincent, to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent

Well, there's a way to frame this as malicious. I'm not a fan of Brave, but it also installs, say, a spell checker without consent, or a Tor client. Sure, the code is there even if you don't use it, but... What's the actual harm?

glad_cat,

The harm is that it’s installed. There is no reason for doing this. It can be done on demand in one second if the user subscribes to their VPN.

It also shows once once again that they keep on doing their shady shit and still cannot be trusted (or at least that they are a bunch of incompetent developers).

DarkenLM,

You know Firefox installs a bunch of stuff by default as well, right?

Scary_le_Poo,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

Such as?

DarkenLM,

Firefox also installs telemetry and data reporting functions like most browsers, also libraries like libwebp, which are prone to critical vulnerabilities (as seen), encryption systems like Encrypted Client Hello, and software like Pocket, which some users never use, but it's still there.

Any browser will install many features that probably won't be used. Saying that a browser that installs a feature like Tor or VPN (which aren't even hidden, Brave publicly present those features) is automatically bad doesn't sound reasonable to me.

whale,
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  • DarkenLM,

    The point I'm making is that it's not like Brave installed the VPN in secret, hidden away to it's own devices. The code is there and a service is installed, sure, but it's dormant until the user activates it.

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  • DarkenLM,

    I guess they place it in the installer to make it easier to update? Note, I never used Brave in my life, so I don't really know how it works.

    dukethorion,
    @dukethorion@lemmy.world avatar

    They don’t want to hear that.

    Vincent,

    I mean, yes, it could've been differently, and as I understand it they're going to. But as a user, how is your life worse with this than without this? What's the impact of something being installed but not running?

    RobotToaster, to piracy in qBittorrent 4.6 launches with I2P support - gHacks Tech News

    Will it be enabled by default?

    valveman,

    It’s not enabled in the 4.6 beta version, I think they’ll keep it that way

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    Probably not. I2P doesn’t connect to the clearnet like Tor does, it only works if the destination is on I2P as well.

    sir_reginald,
    @sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

    I2P does connect to the clearnet, it just doesn’t by default.

    Outproxies are available and you can even host your own routing it through Tor. That way you get the best of both networks.

    WarmApplePieShrek,

    Useless for torrenting - you’ll overload the outproxy.

    ReversalHatchery,

    It requires running additional software, a so called “I2P router”.
    This can be ran on Linux and Windows systems too, on localhost or for your local network.

    Eggroley, to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent
    @Eggroley@lemmy.world avatar

    I mainly use brave as an alternative browser for when things are acting a bit iffy on Librewolf.

    Yesterday I saw their VPN service running on the task manager. Hadn’t used brave for a week. Immediately uninstalled.

    Poutinetown, to privacyguides in Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is Microsoft's new data collection service

    Any outlook alternative that doesn’t look pre-dotcom? I really liked the Microsoft Mail app for its simplicity and the ability to have multiple inboxes, it’s a shame it is being replaced by outlook.

    iturnedintoanewt,

    Evolution?

    ulkesh,
    @ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

    Spark, Mailbird, eM Client, Mailspring.

    Most of the modern ones do store certain information on servers, though. Spark and Mailbird both do. Mailspring does as well if I recall correctly.

    Most modern mail app developers seem to think that it’s more important to do search indexing and account storage on a server for ease of use, and expect inherent trust, foregoing all sense of real privacy under the veil of “we’re not evil, we promise.”

    I’ve yet to find an email client that has a good modern look and feel, but doesn’t try to use server-side storage for some UX convenience factor.

    I want the look and feel and mail host integrations of Spark (OAuth, like GMail, or preconfigs of hosts like iCloud) with the dumb-pipe-ness of Thunderbird. That’s the email unicorn I’m after.

    zjaume, to piracy in qBittorrent 4.6 launches with I2P support - gHacks Tech News

    Is a torrent client behind i2p as reachable as if I had a VPN with port forwarding?

    EDIT: is the use of i2p compatible with private trackers? So that they can keep track of what I’m seeding?

    zjaume,

    I think I’m answering myself as I just read i2p is closed from clearnet. So I suppose the private tracker would need to be connected to i2p.

    Natanael,

    Yup, unless you specifically set it to use one of the few outproxies then it’s by default just for connecting to other peers within the I2P network

    LWD, (edited ) to privacy in AdGuard Temp Mail: new temporary email service launched - gHacks Tech News

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  • KarnaSubarna, (edited )
    @KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yes, Temporary/Disposable email account is strictly for one time use.

    Oha, to privacyguides in Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is Microsoft's new data collection service

    It’s a microsoft product, What the fuck do you expect?

    smeg, to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent

    I think you’ve double-posted

    throws_lemy,
    @throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

    I have deleted the previous post, but there seems to be a synchronization problem with other instances

    smeg,

    Yeah, weirdly it shows up as a cross-post to the same community but not every client shows them both at once. I’ve seen it before and I think it was to do with cross-instance syncing then as well.

    LWD, (edited ) to privacyguides in AdGuard Temp Mail: new temporary email service launched

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  • kurcatovium,

    I use some kind of temp mail quite regularly. Some websites I visit offer free download of stuff in exange for email address to get newletter (and other marketing/ad bullshittery). Temp mail is ideal for this.

    governorkeagan, (edited ) to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent

    I’m clearly out of the loop with the hate towards Brave. Why all the hate? Also, if it’s hated so much why is it still recommended on Privacy Guides?

    EDITThank you for all the informative responses!

    witchdoctor,

    Also, if it’s hated so much why is it still recommended on Privacy Guides?

    Non-unironically, Brave paid shills.

    sir_reginald,
    @sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

    Why all the hate?

    Have you read the article? They install their VPN before the user decides to use that service, when they could simply install it when the user decides to subscribe to their VPN.

    I’m going to be downvoted for this but it’s recommended on privacy guides because they generally lack strict criteria with browsers. Both Firefox and Brave make automatic connections that shouldn’t be allowed.

    ghazi,
    @ghazi@mastodon.tn avatar

    @governorkeagan @throws_lemy Privacy Guides has a set of objective criteria to judge a browser's security and privacy. People tend to hate Brave for reasons unrelated to security and privacy. Like the CEO's politics, crypto (and recently AI) integration in the browser, some shady history about injecting referral codes, etc.
    Personally, I wish I could find an alternative that is as good as Brave. Until then, I'll keep using it as it is perfect for my needs.

    hperrin, to privacy in AdGuard Temp Mail: new temporary email service launched - gHacks Tech News

    Check out port87.com

    It’s similar. I made it to solve my spam problem, but it’s also really good for staying organized. When you sign up for something, you can use yourname-whatever@port87.com, then if you don’t want it anymore, you can block that address. Each address has its own label in your account, and blocking the address is just one click.

    hperrin, to privacyguides in AdGuard Temp Mail: new temporary email service launched

    Check out port87.com

    It’s similar. I made it to solve my spam problem, but it’s also really good for staying organized. When you sign up for something, you can use yourname-whatever@port87.com, then if you don’t want it anymore, you can block that address. Each address has its own label in your account, and blocking the address is just one click.

    MonkCanatella, (edited ) to privacyguides in AdGuard Temp Mail: new temporary email service launched

    I researched this stuff a LOT. I originally only knew about anonaddy but it’s a pain to set up self hosted. There’s a lot of options but I really like the proton setup: proton pass + proton mail. Lets you respond to emails from the fake email created very easily.

    My flow is like this: some website asks for my email, proton pass extension suggests a fake email using domain.hash@passinbox.com for example: shoppingwebsite.1c8sn@passinbox.com

    I think it’s the best of all worlds and it’s why I switched from bitwarden as the flow is way faster and easier to use. And it’s a cinch to respond to emails from proton mail.

    randomaside, to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent
    @randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I originally started using brave because at the time it was the most feature complete alternative to chrome. Now I would like to switch but I would still use chrome cast for music streaming (I have quite a few of them).

    Last time I checked casting audio was missing as a feature in most deGooogled versions of chrome. Does anyone have any suggestions for browsers that allow me to stream audio from my browser to Google Chromecast?

    iSeth,

    Can you stream audio from VLC?

    penquin, to privacyguides in Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent

    I’ve discovered a new browser to use as a secondary one to Firefox in case I needed a chromium based one. Thorium. This thing is insanely fast. Brave what?

    HubertManne,
    @HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

    Ive liked iron. it doesn't look to do anything but remove da google.

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