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mr_satan, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

What you’re describing is an issue with all of social media. While your concerns are valid, I don’t see your arguments as privacy issue. I honestly prefer post and comment history being transparent and accessible. It’s much like Reddit and this format fits much better with an open forum style of platform.

Don’t post private information and it’s a non-issue.

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Would still be nice to hide that information

drndramrndra,

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Not really AFAIK. Your comment is spread across many instances, and they’re not required to follow your deletion request.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Oh, I see

LWD,

It’s no required, but if a server is misbehaving, people could notice and those servers could be defederated. By default, deletions are federated.

bamboo,

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Nothing ever dies on the Internet. With the federated nature of Lemmy, it’s possible for deletes to not sync across instances, especially if there’s defederation that happens.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Makes sense, when I think about it

TexMexBazooka, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

Bruh what? If you’re repeatedly making new accounts because you don’t want people reading your post history you’re doing something wrong.

LWD, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

There’s a grim tragedy in how many people in this comment section have either succumbed to defeat or actively seek to advocate against privacy.

The comments can mostly be boiled down to:

  • My data is online already, and I give up
  • Your data is online already, and you don’t deserve control over it
  • I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear (and you should too)

You will find Fediverse types are far more cynical and antagonistic to privacy than people on other platforms.

Tangent5280,

But why? Is there a compromise taken on privacy in favour of visibility and mass adoption of whatever fediverse client they’re using? I don’t understand this, especially since I also find the strongest advocates for privacy right here.

LWD,

A lot of Lemmy adopters joined with rose tinted glasses, and came with a lot of good ideas, like getting data out of the hands of big companies, making it easy to access it (as Reddit locked down APIs), etc. Which is all good, but a subset of them believe “not officially belonging to one company” is good enough. As for how your data is handled online, a subset of them believe nothing can be improved, and a subset believes it shouldn’t be improved because your data shouldn’t belong to you at all.

And Lemmy is made up of all sorts, so there’s overlap between Reddit refugees and diehard fans. That interaction is a lot more implicit here, but the friction is a lot more visible on sites like Mastodon where similar privacy discussions have been happening.

Devorlon,

I’ve not seen any of these arguments. Though it may be all downvoted to hell and back.

My main gripe with adding privacy features to Lemmy is that the whole point of Lemmy is that all data is already publicly available and for Lemmy to continue working the way it does it’ll need to remain that way. And because of that there’s nothing that can be done to stop bad actors setting up an instance and selling all the data they collect.

At least in the EU (and UK to a lesser extent) no major corporation would be able to get away with selling that data, so the spent man hours on allowing privacy settings would be wasted time.

LemmyHead,

It doesn’t necessarily need to remain that way. For example,we should have the option to make our profiles private. We should also be able to create pseudonyms for content we submit. The content will still be federated, but not necessarily linked to one user ID

exocrinous, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

The admin of Blahaj is openly interested in exposing trans people’s alt accounts and outing them on their mains. And somehow it’s the biggest trans instance. We need a community and admin reaction in favour of defederating people who do that.

magnor,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

Wait what? Do you have a source for this?

exocrinous,
magnor,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

I don’t see much proof. Did anyone corroborate?

exocrinous,

In order to show you proof I would have to help Ada in her attempts at doxxing, but I asked a friend who saw the whole thing to confirm.

magnor,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

I understand this is hard to prove without doxxing. This situation is very concerning, and if true absolutely disgusting.

csm10495, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Technical question: How would posts federate if private?

risencode, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

The only privacy setting I can encourage on any social media site is don’t share private stuff about yourself and never link to your account from other accounts

LemmyHead,

That is part of the problem though. Proper privacy allows you to express what you want to, without self censorship. The issue is not: don’t speak about x, but rather: speak about it and feel comfortable that you can do it in a safe environment. I fully agree with the account linking though

Blaze, (edited ) to announcements in Lemmy Security Advisory for Versions < `0.19.1`: Private message details leak.
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

Isn’t that dangerous to discose the bug while the largest version is still 18.5 ? fedidb.org/software/lemmy/versions

gregorum,

why haven’t they upgraded yet?

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

19.0 and 19.1 broke federation.

19.2 restored federation.

19.3, released this week, fixed an authentication issue.

Seems you are either non-functional or insecure

gregorum,

oy. ok

dessalines, (edited )

Those didn’t completely break federation, they just had some issues with a few services besides lemmy. They’re addressed now, but federation compatibility will always be an ongoing task as new services get added and existing ones change their activitypub responses.

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

Happy to be past that indeed

syd, (edited )
@syd@lemy.lol avatar

0.18.6 would make sense TBH.

dessalines,

Timing on publishing these is tricky. We let most server runners know about this ~a month ago now, and we’re now 2 versions past the bug.

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

Interesting, thanks, I didn’t know you communicated this to the admins before

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

As far as I’m aware the most widely-accepted standard for responsible disclosure is 90 days. This is a little different, since that’s normally between businesses and includes the time needed to develop a solution; it’s not typically aimed at federated or self-hosted applications rolling out an already-created patch. On the one hand, granting them that extra time to upgrade seems reasonable. On the other, wouldn’t anyone wanting to exploit a vulnerability be able to reverse-engineer it pretty easily by reading the git history?

I dunno where I land on this, tbh.

example,

The 90 days disclosure you’re referencing, which I believe is primarily popularized by Google’s Project Zero process, is the time from when someone discovers and reports a vulnerability to the time it will be published by the reporter if there is no disclosure by the vendor by then.

The disclosure by the vendor to their users (people running Lemmy instances in this case) is a completely separate topic, and, depending on the context, tends to happen quite differently from vendor to vendor.

As an example, GitLab publishes security advisories the day the fixed version is released, e.g. …gitlab.com/…/critical-security-release-gitlab-16….
Some vendors will choose to release a new version, wait a few weeks or so, then publish a security advisory about issues addressed in the previous release. One company I’ve frequently seen this with is Atlassian. This is also what happened with Lemmy in this case.

As Lemmy is an open source project, anyone could go and review all commits for potential security impact and to determine whether something may be exploitable. This would similarly apply to any other open source project, regardless of whether the commit is pushed some time between releases or just before a release. If someone is determined enough and spends time on this they’ll be able to find vulnerabilities in various projects before an advisory is published.

The “responsible” alternative for this would have been to publish an advisory at the time it was previously privately disclosed to admins of larger instances, which was right around the christmas holidays, when many people would already be preoccupied with other things in their life.

stefenauris, to opensource in Ventoy 1.0.97 Released
@stefenauris@pawb.social avatar

amazingly useful utility!

nezbyte,

It really is. I have every possible ISO I may want and even a win10 bootable environment on a single usb drive.

Mikelius, to opensource in Ventoy 1.0.97 Released

Just to get it out there… I checked this out about a year ago. It’s not completely open source. The project consists of many executables and “pre complied dependencies” that don’t appear to share matching checksums which may indicate modifications of some sort. Looks like a great tool, but I’m extremely skeptical of what’s going on under the hood.

Hopefully they do truly open source it and prove me wrong, I’d love to give it a try some day.

lukecooperatus, to opensource in Composition | Manage your ⎄ compose sequences
@lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml avatar

This looks interesting, but I don’t understand what it’s for. I read through the readme, but came out none the wiser. What exactly is a compose sequence?

qaz, (edited )

A compose key (sometimes called multi key) is a key on a computer keyboard that indicates that the following (usually 2 or more) keystrokes trigger the insertion of an alternate character, typically a precomposed character or a symbol.

Wikipedia

It’s a method to combine several characters on your keyboard and use it to create a special character which is not on the keyboard. For example “ and e produces ë. This tool allows you to configure those combinations.

But thanks for the feedback. I’ll update the readme to add some more context.

t0m5k1, to linux in Make any Distro Immutable
@t0m5k1@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds great but needs more contributors to gain trust so that it can be used in production.

library_napper, to linux in Make any Distro Immutable
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Why no containers?

atzanteol,

This community is full of people who simply “don’t like certain things”. They may say “it’s overkill” disregarding the fact that it solves their use case perfectly. Or it could be written in a language they don’t like. Or maybe they heard somebody else complain about it on a forum once and now think it’s bad.

actual_patience,

I think flatpaks are good. The performance penalty for containerized software can be felt much more when you’re not using a good CPU. So containers do not “solve” my use case.

Euphoma,

I’m using a cpu from 2013 and gaming in containers seems to work as well as it does outside of containers.

Joker,

Yeah, it’s also the same group of people who are always complaining about how much RAM a desktop environment or app uses, that app being whichever one they are using right now.

fl42v, to linux in Make any Distro Immutable

To get a truly immutable experience install use squashfs instead :D

actual_patience,

Could you pass me a link to an example setup?

fl42v,

It’s a joke; squashfs is read-only :D Stuff’s used on routers and similar stuff

scrubbles, to selfhosted in Object Storage for embedded pict-rs on from scratch install? · Issue #287 · LemmyNet/lemmy-docs
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I did it with blob storage, ended up being much cleaner and cheaper. You’ll need to toy with it a bit, but from scratch will be a lot easier than the migration I had to do. You’ll easily eat up 100+GB in pictures, which on the cloud on a VM’s drive that’s a fair chunk of money. Object storage is pennies.

glowie,
@glowie@h4x0r.host avatar

Yup Yup! I’ve got it uploading objects. It seems to be an issue with fetching them. The hash is either mismatched or it’s not correctly trying to grab from the sled repo. So, I get a 500 error in store response. Not really sure how to fix it.

sturlabragason, to selfhosted in PlanarAlly 2024.1 Release!

Now this is fucking awesome! Trying this tonight!

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