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Seasoned_Greetings, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

I’ve heard that moneied interests are paying Twitter and now reddit behind the scenes to ruin their respective communities. It’s because every time something happens that shakes the foundation of who’s in charge, it’s always a social media coordinated public effort behind the push for change. The most recent one I can think of is the Twitter-fueled women’s rights movement in Iran. Or even the push to get progressive names like AOC elected.

So now we have rich interests paying CEOs to sabotage their own companies in order to better maintain the status quo.

I know this concept falls squarely into conspiracy theory territory, but with Twitter and reddit, both once bastions of progressive organization, going to shit at the same time, and threads popping up with the messaging that they explicitly want to avoid news and politics, you can’t help but wonder if there’s a concentrated effort behind the scenes to break up communities that are actually starting to make a difference.

WeDoTheWeirdStuff,

Do you have even 1 source to back up that outlandish statement?

WolfhoundRO,

It doesn’t sound too outlandish. The destruction of Twitter seems to attract some replacement from the far-right groups, Threads is already gaining far-right pages promotion and Reddit is still in the phase of destroying a once very influencial community. And all in the same time as the beginning of the US electoral campaign. It really aligns with a concentrated effort

HughJanus,

I mean what makes far more sense is that interests rates have skyrocketed, which means VC money dried up, which means these platforms that haven’t made money in over a decade suddenly have to figure out how to run themselves.

It’s not just Reddit and Twitter, it’s YouTube and Twitch also.

Brkdncr,

It also might have something to do with the people running the show are now being tasked with real work and it turns out they aren’t good at their job.

nicetriangle,
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Yeah I think this is the Occam’s razor explanation that makes more sense. And why might Reddit be doing such a similar thing so soon after twitter? Spez has said he’s in touch with Elon and admires his business decisions. Simple as that.

Xeelee,
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It's a theory that fits the available evidence. So it's more valid than most conspiracy theories.

ininewcrow,
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For those in control … there is no more terrible thing than to have all your workers talking amongst one another to discuss how terrible their situation is and what they could all do about it.

It’s the same in prison … if the guards and management keep everyone in control by isolating them all. Once the inmates start talking to one another, they start to conspire and plan on what to do about their situation. If they plan long enough, they’ll figure out how to do illegal activity, find specialty items or contraband … give them more time and they’ll start trying to figure out how to break out of their situation.

Then when things go too far and all sorts of illegal activity is taking place and people are trying to break out … the guards and managers will shake up the prison and breakup the communications system they were all using.

xc2215x, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

Spez loves Musk apparently.

PeriodicallyPedantic, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!

Nobody mentioning Jenna Marbles?!?!

tacosanonymous, to memes in Viewers like you

I really like the hard-hitting investigative journalism Mecha Gojira brings to the show.

Newguy, to memes in Viewers like you

I’m curious who reports weather

GrayBackgroundMusic, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!

This is how I find out matpat is retiring?!

EightLeggedFreak,

Right?!

MrFunnyMoustache, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!

No idea who Matpat is, but I will miss Tom Scott’s stuff… also The Canipa Effect announced he is quitting YouTube after 10 years of producing content.

Adi2121, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!

The general reaction to this post being “Who’s Matpat?” is super interesting to me. And the comments saying that Tom Scott and Matpat aren’t old are also interesting since they follow the trend in Lemmy of the average age being a lot older than any other social network. I’m Gen Z and primarily consume content via a very Zoomer-heavy platform, YouTube, and the only other social network I have is Lemmy, which I’d say is very millennial-dominated. Which is why I stayed on Lemmy when I first got on here in June, since I liked the difference in opinion on the same topics on Lemmy and YouTube. Nothing related to the post, just something I’ve noticed for a while but never shared.

Caboose12000,

as a fellow zoomer I can verify that Lemmy is unique in that you and me as zoomers seem to be a minority here

SimplyATable,

Same here, it’s a lot more chill of a place at least

chuckleslord,

YouTube is zoomer heavy. I know that’s true, but I like to believe that I, a millennial, am still welcome there.

MBM,

Honestly I just consider “old internet” to be before I was even born

BudgetBandit,

The „old internet“ imho is before the few social media sites swallowed all the small forums we had

PsychedSy,

I’ve got accounts older than my niece and she’ll be 16 in a month.

Ephera,

I feel like people not knowing this Matpat person may also just be a case of the channel being called “The Game Theorists”.

I have seen videos of that channel suggested, but never clicked on any, because it looked like typical content mill stuff to me. If you don’t watch any videos, you’ll only ever read “The Game Theorists”…

lugal, to memes in Viewers like you

“Unbiased” for sure…

DragonTypeWyvern,

Two sides were presented, covering all possible biases!

Rolando, to memes in Viewers like you

Due to a clerical error, the theme song to that newscast is the Theme from Godzilla vs Mothra.

altima_neo, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!
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The old Internet died when Reddit became “the front page of the Internet”

altima_neo, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!
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Meanwhile the Angry Video Game Nerd won’t retire when he really should.

TheDarksteel94,

Why is that? Haven’t watched him in a while.

ZWho63,

From what I’ve heard on the grapevine (I also don’t watch his stuff), his channel really declined in quality past 2019, and it just hasn’t been the same.

ltxrtquq,

If the 4 hour long hbomberguy video is to be believed, the Angry Video Game Nerd channel (?) got bought by a company that turned it into something of a content mill. And there’s some plagiarism involved.

altima_neo,
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He signed up with one of those media management companies to help him promote and produce content. He mostly did it because he wanted to spend more time with his family, because he’s not really a gamer and has been running out of games he played as a kid, and because he’s kind of inept, to be honest. He made a behind the scenes video that showed just how ramshackle his workflow is.

Anyway, once he got that company involved, they injected themselves into his videos as well as write and edit,nand everyone was wondering who “these fat slobs” were? They just appeared with no introduction. The quality of his content took a nosedive around this time. They also started adding all sorts of new content, like rental reviews and podcasts that all died out very quickly due to lack of interest (and because they were mostly centered around the slobs rather than James). You could also tell James wasn’t very interested in any of it.

Anyway there’s more to it, but that’s the big stuff.

snowe, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!
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Never even heard of matpat and I’ve been using YouTube since 2006

TheDarksteel94,

What, you’ve never heard of the “game theory guy”?

rwhitisissle,

I always knew him as the guy that copied reddit and tvtropes forum posts and put them into youtube videos while providing no credit to the original people that came up with them.

fjordbasa,

Not OP but I’ve never heard of that channel either, surprised that YouTube has never recommended it to me despite watching mostly tech and gaming videos

PP_BOY_, (edited )
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Question: are you over the age of 12? In which case, you’re outside of the demographic for MatPat videos

fjordbasa,

Physically? Yes. Maturity-wise? The jury’s out…

Rusty,

John von Neumann?

rwhitisissle,

You’ve missed out on literally nothing.

BudgetBandit,

Well it was good in the beginning. I stopped watching when he started uploading FNAF. Back then YouTube was fun as a young gamer: A+Start, Scykoh, the CrazyRussianHacker, animated Minecraft Music Videos to name a few.

ZWho63, (edited ) to memes in Glory to our new overlords!

For those of y’all who don’t know: MatPat has announced that he will be stepping down from The Game Theorists to focus on himself and his family; Tom Scott has gone on indefinite hiatus for similar reasons.

I believe this heralds a new era of the internet, where ‘old’ creators are not as influential as the ‘new’ crop springing up, given the rise of Tiktok and the general direction of social media as a whole.

TheDarksteel94,

I don’t think it’s got much to do with new types of content being successful. If anything, those guys have just been doing this for so long that they definitely should take a loooong break, at least.

ZWho63,

Tom Scott and Matpat didn’t talk about breaks; they’re closing up shop for good in some way: MatPat has said he’s handing over creative control of the Theorist channels and assuming a more casual admin role to spend more time with his kid. Tom Scott said that he set a limit for 10 years on his main channel; he may come back to it, but it doesn’t seem likely. Others are also quitting, such as Moo from the Vanoss Crew.

PeriodicallyPedantic,

Tom didn’t say limit, he said goal. He said that after a break, he will probably upload videos to his main channel from time to time, but that when he does come back it won’t be at his current schedule or with his current format.

survivalmachine,

In other words, millennial media tired, zoomer media bussin’.

flamingo_pinyata,

This seems like a big change only because YouTube/content creators are such a new phenomenon. Makes sense to change tracks after doing the same thing for a while. Or retire if you get filthy rich. It’s a natural cycle, only this time in a new environment.

Tom Scott has been doing the same thing for 10 years. Hell I can barely do the same job for 2 years without getting bored out of my mind.

tacosanonymous,

It’s kinda like tv shows. Doing the same one dash in and out is exhausting.

frauddogg, to memes in Glory to our new overlords!
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What, did multiple someones all get hit with allegations on the same day?

Frogmanfromlake,
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Nah. They just stepped down.

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