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Seasoned_Greetings, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

I’ve heard that moneied interests are paying Twitter and now reddit behind the scenes to ruin their respective communities. It’s because every time something happens that shakes the foundation of who’s in charge, it’s always a social media coordinated public effort behind the push for change. The most recent one I can think of is the Twitter-fueled women’s rights movement in Iran. Or even the push to get progressive names like AOC elected.

So now we have rich interests paying CEOs to sabotage their own companies in order to better maintain the status quo.

I know this concept falls squarely into conspiracy theory territory, but with Twitter and reddit, both once bastions of progressive organization, going to shit at the same time, and threads popping up with the messaging that they explicitly want to avoid news and politics, you can’t help but wonder if there’s a concentrated effort behind the scenes to break up communities that are actually starting to make a difference.

WeDoTheWeirdStuff,

Do you have even 1 source to back up that outlandish statement?

WolfhoundRO,

It doesn’t sound too outlandish. The destruction of Twitter seems to attract some replacement from the far-right groups, Threads is already gaining far-right pages promotion and Reddit is still in the phase of destroying a once very influencial community. And all in the same time as the beginning of the US electoral campaign. It really aligns with a concentrated effort

HughJanus,

I mean what makes far more sense is that interests rates have skyrocketed, which means VC money dried up, which means these platforms that haven’t made money in over a decade suddenly have to figure out how to run themselves.

It’s not just Reddit and Twitter, it’s YouTube and Twitch also.

Brkdncr,

It also might have something to do with the people running the show are now being tasked with real work and it turns out they aren’t good at their job.

nicetriangle,
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Yeah I think this is the Occam’s razor explanation that makes more sense. And why might Reddit be doing such a similar thing so soon after twitter? Spez has said he’s in touch with Elon and admires his business decisions. Simple as that.

Xeelee,
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It's a theory that fits the available evidence. So it's more valid than most conspiracy theories.

ininewcrow,
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For those in control … there is no more terrible thing than to have all your workers talking amongst one another to discuss how terrible their situation is and what they could all do about it.

It’s the same in prison … if the guards and management keep everyone in control by isolating them all. Once the inmates start talking to one another, they start to conspire and plan on what to do about their situation. If they plan long enough, they’ll figure out how to do illegal activity, find specialty items or contraband … give them more time and they’ll start trying to figure out how to break out of their situation.

Then when things go too far and all sorts of illegal activity is taking place and people are trying to break out … the guards and managers will shake up the prison and breakup the communications system they were all using.

xc2215x, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

Spez loves Musk apparently.

TacoButtPlug, to memes in Math
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It’s crazy how many people just on this meme think antifa is an actual organization. 🤦

PatFussy, to memes in Math

What’s a fascist mean to you nerds anyways? Like what does it even mean to be anti fascist?

A7thStone,

Hey I recognize you. You show up all over JAQing off and concern trolling.

tatterdemalion, to memes in Math
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Anti-antifa does not subscribe to the law of the excluded middle, so double negation elimination does not apply.

ArmoredThirteen, to lotrmemes in One Comment Chain to Rule Them All

Wonder if I can lure out the other obsessive respond chain community with something like “GROND and stone, yeaahhh!”

thanks_shakey_snake,

DID I HEAR A GROND AND STONE?

jerrythegenius,
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G R O N D A N D S T O N E

Mr_Dr_Oink, to memes in Math

I seem to recall seeing a video or reading an article where they mention that the media turned antifa into a sort of separate word to warp its meaning. Instead of saying anti fascist, which has a clear meaning, they shortened it and changed the pronunciation ‘an teefa’ (something to do with which syllable you emphasise) so they could distort its meani g and demonise the word to make people think it was bad.

So now people dont realise antifa means anti fascist which is surely a good thing to be, and instead, they fear antifa as some kind of terrorist group, which is almost the opposite of what it is.

The funny thing is, as an outsider to this, living in the UK, our media doesn’t ever use the term, and when i heard it, my instinct was to look up its meaning. It’s interesting to me that i won’t know if i would have fallen for it if the media were using it in the same way over here to lead my understanding of its definition

LarmyOfLone,

I think Antifa actually started in the UK even before the Nazi’s. Eh actually not but they did fight against fascists in the UK as early as 1930.

The reason why we need antifa and why it’s hated by the mainstream is because the establishment is notoriously bad at stopping fascism. There is a long history of it. So besides liberal antifa that uses legal means like suing the KKK out of existence, the autonomous antifa is actually needed for the continued working of our democracy.

aeharding, to memes in Math
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Be careful when you punch a fascist. You might hurt your hand/wrist. Best to read up ahead of time.

www.wikihow.com/Stop-Wrist-Pain-when-Punching

jerrythegenius, to lotrmemes in One Comment Chain to Rule Them All
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G R O N D

Rudee,

G R O N D

burgermeister,

G R O N D ?

ajmaxwell, (edited )
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G R O N D

rustydomino,
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G R O N D

samus12345, to memes in Math
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I’m anti-anti-antifa.

some_guy, to memes in Math

Best math course I’ve taken since schooling.

KpntAutismus, to memes in Math

this is the kind of black and white thinking lemmy does best.

dudinax,

You’re not pro-fascist, you’re just against people trying to stop the fascists. Thank god for nuance.

KpntAutismus, (edited )

i hate fascists with a passion, but i might not agree with how antifa acts. i do not have any experience with the group itself, i might even agree with them.

for example, i do not like how the last generation glued themselves to streets. that doesn’t make me a climate denier, does it?

EDIT: it seems i misunderstood what antifa is. i always saw it as “the group of violent extremist protesters that throw rocks and light up cars”

again, i am fully for doing everything i can against fascists. but violent protests don’t contribute, all it does is make your movement the next boogeyman.

bloubz,

How is this related to antifascist action?

Quadhammer,

Is a burning car really worse than fucking over the next 15 generations and the planet

CyberEgg,

There is no singular group called “antifa”. It’s a movement of loosely (at best) interconnected but independent, antifascist groups.
Also, we need all these groups. It’s them who usually organize rallies against racism, fascism, antisemitism, inhuman law proposals, et cetera. Also they organize all sorts of other actions against alt right, far right and (neo-)nazis, like disrupting their rallies and standing in the way of goon squads.
Antifa groups are damn important.

Ragdoll_X, to memes in Math
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Well yeah Andy Ngo does literally hang out with fascists so that’s a given lol

pingveno,

It was so frustrating watching some people treat him like he was anything close to a real journalist. He’s just the designated propagandist.

Tb0n3, to memes in Math

Anti-antifa only means you’re against the people claiming to be anti-fascist. It doesn’t mean you like fascism. Nor does being antifa mean everything you’re against is fascism.

pifox,

I think it should be noted, the difference between antifa the organization and antifa the philosophy.

I am very much ideologically anti-fascist and I believe I would take up arms against a fascist government, however antifa the org has made some questionable calls in the past.

odium,

There is no overarching antifa organization though. Try looking for a website/forum/etc of antifa. There are websites for random local activist groups which call themselves <city name> antifa, but there is no leader or comittee overseeing these groups. There is no process to join antifa, any activist group or individual can call themselves antifa.

So there are no calls made by antifa, good or bad. There are only calls made by individuals or local groups that call themselves antifa.

pifox, (edited )

Fair. I think you can understand them as a group still, similarly to how you can see anonymous as a group.

I don’t think I’m educated enough to say anything against the group as a whole, as I haven’t sat down to do a lot of research on them (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

however I don’t think the logic of the source meme on it’s own shows someone as fascist just because they oppose the antifa orginization.

can,

(I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

Damn that’s refreshing to read.

odium,

I do agree that someone isn’t a fascist if they disagree with antifa. I was just talking about the part where you talked about antifa the organization.

ummthatguy, to memes in Math
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