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QuazarOmega, (edited ) to privacyguides in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

Incredibly based.
Come to think of it, it’s sad how we’ve got so accustomed to be suggested Google Authenticator and the other big corp data funnel 2FA apps by the services that support it

aniki, to privacyguides in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

andOTP is opensource, backs up locally, remotely, encrypted, or unencrypted. has no back doors, and will work with any DFA i can chuck at it.

its an archived project but still works fine in modern android

github.com/andOTP/andOTP

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

why not 2fas

frogmint,

Why not Aegis?

OfficerBribe,

Are there well known TOTP apps with backdoors?

aniki, (edited )

Anything closed source could have backdoors. Trust no one.

Why does MS Authenticator need GPS permissions?

play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.azur…

OfficerBribe,

As per their FAQ:

Permission to access your location

Q: I got a prompt asking me to grant permission for the app to access my location. Why am I seeing this?

A: You will see a prompt from the Authenticator app asking for access to your location if your IT admin has created a policy requiring you to share your GPS location before you are allowed to access specific resources. You’ll need to share your location once every hour to ensure you are still within a country where you are allowed to access the resource.

aniki, (edited )

And? I don’t give a shit what the admins of my network want. It’s DFA – they don’t deserve to know that. Ergo, I don’t use the MS app. They can kiss my ass and fire me if they don’t trust where I am.

OfficerBribe,

It’s a security / compliance policy. There is a very high chance your company has not even enabled it, have not seen anyone using it.

As I see it, you would and could use it only if you force MS Authenticator notification as the only MFA method and it is important in which country MFA prompt originates. Usually it is IP based block / whitelist which checks IP from which login originates which seems like a much more useful info, then you can also allow any MFA method.

You can always deny permissions to apps.

aniki,

You’re not convincing me.

It’s rather sick to an app that’s open source

OfficerBribe,

Your question was why GPS permission is needed, you should now know why.

I am using MS Authenticator and Aegis. Using MS authenticator only for work accounts that have been setup for number matching feature, it is pretty nice to simply enter 2 digits in app than entering 6 digits in client itself any time you need to approve MFA.

Everything else that supports standard TOTP whether work related or personal is on Aegis - it is a much better TOTP app.

aniki,

i dont care

ReversalHatchery,

That depends. More of the popular ones don’t encrypt the secret keys, they can just be read out with root access or even with the use of ADB (the pull command), not even speaking about reading the memory contents while booted to a recovery.
Some even uploads the keys to a cloud service for convenience, and they consider it a feature.

OfficerBribe,

Sounds more like a bad design than purposefully left backdoors. Very few devices are rooted and usually you cannot get root without fully wiping your device in process. As for cloud upload, that indeed is convenient for most regular users. I prefer encrypted offline backup like Aegis does, but you need to think about regular folk if they would loose or wipe their device.

ReversalHatchery,

It’s not bad design, it’s definitely intentional, however I agree that it’s probably not for having backdoors, but for convenience. Average people forget their passwords all the time, and with encryption that level of carelessness is fatal to your data if they have not saved it somewhere, which they probably didn’t do.

Very few devices are rooted and usually you cannot get root without fully wiping your device in process.

I’m pretty sure the system is not flawless. Probably it’s harder to find an exploit in the OS than it was years ago, but I would be surprised if it would be really rare. Also, I think a considerable amount of people use the cheapest phones of no name brands (even if not in your country), or even just tablets that haven’t received updates for years and are slow but “good for use at home”. I have one at home that I rarely use. Bootloader cannot be unlocked, but there’s a couple of exploits available for one off commands and such.

XioR112, (edited )
@XioR112@lemmy.world avatar

Here is active fork.
github.com/helloworld1/FreeOTPPlus

lemann,

This is what I use. Also supports exporting/importing data to and from Gnome Authenticator so you have 2FA on your computer too 👍

aniki,

Sick! I didn’t think to look at the forks but that’s amazing.

BolexForSoup, to privacyguides in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

This is becoming a trend and I really don’t like it.

Y2K38,

What exactly?

BolexForSoup, (edited )
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Setting restrictions on what 2FA/authenticators we can use. I imagine it’s only a matter of time before Google functionally makes it so you can only use theirs when using their services.

Edit: I assumed it was some of the messages I’ve seen elsewhere, my mistake. I don’t need everybody repeating the same comment. Please read the responses before telling me the exact same thing over and over again guys lol

ErKaf,

They recommend these two. Under the recommendations it even says you can also use different apps…

Y2K38,

At least for what I just posted this isn’t a restriction. Its a recommendation. You can still use any other app. I thought its nice that they recommend the privacy friendly ones.

starlord,

I’ve gone tons of places that say use Google Authenticator (only) and I just summon the QR code and scan with Aegis anyway and it always works fine. I’ve never seen a place that required a certain one.

skarn,

It literally says “Other authenticator apps that support OTP […] can also be used”.

nutbutter, to privacyguides in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

In India, they force us to install proprietary apps, which are probably spying on us.

Star,

They don’t, though? Who’s forcing you to install a proprietary 2FA app in India. Unless you’re saying in general.

nutbutter,

My bank, for example, does not let us use any 2FA app we want. They have their own separate app, made for handling 2FA for that specific bank only.

And in general too, yes. Like Arogya Setu. The app we had to install to prove our vaccination status.

ErKaf, to privacyguides in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

EhrenBVG. Wie immer.

Grass, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

In the following responses Mauro was very professional. l haven’t heard much about recently but Linus had some high tier anger issues. Most of the cases I was following back then he was right, but desperately needed to cool off.

HStone32, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

Stuff like this is the reason Linus decided to take a sabbatical back in 2018 to work on controlling his temper.

jackoneill, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

If I was VOLUNTEERING my time on a project I loved and got that kind of response, I would delete everything I had ever contributed and walk away.

HexesofVexes, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

Poor Mauro: they weren’t good at what they loved, they blamed others for their failings, and their community leader was nuts.

Jokes aside, we’ve already got toxic right there. Linus isn’t right, but someone like that would be fired with good cause. It’s one thing to make a mistake, it’s quite another to blame your co-workers for your own shoddy work.

What’s that Reddit phrase? ESH!

computerscientistI, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

I wonder if the guys here who are moaning like the snowflakes they are about Linus’ way of conveying the message (not the message itself) are from the US? I sometimes really wonder about the US mindset. The boss is critisizing you justifyably but in an inadequate tone? Hell breaks lose. But as an employee insisting on healthcare, an adequate number of days on paid time off, unionazing or at least have an able workers’ representation? Nah, that’s unheard of.

How about having some priorities? Grow a pair and chose your battles more wisely. The boss criticizes you? If he’s right, own up to your mistakes. Want some rights you are actually entitled to? Yeah, that’s what you fight for.

SK4nda1,

Telling your coworker “Shut the fuck up?” Is not acceptable. The way communication happens matters.

Sanyanov,

Here’s a crazy idea: have both!

Don’t allow your boss to speak to you like that, unionize, and fight for your workers rights - including the right for dignity and respect, listed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but also for higher pay and better working conditions.

How does one hurt the other?

Also, I’m Russian.

corrupts_absolutely,

heres a free critique of your message!
this is garbage ane idiocy, shut the fuck up.
you are also free to say thanks!

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for showing everyone that you can’t read

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Found “recent” post on LWN.

After twenty plus years of watching LKML and Linus’s behavior in general, I have to concur with you. Reading a lot of the ‘linus is an asshole’ threads, there’s generally a clear runup towards an outburst.

Just recently he called some developers out because it seemed evident they weren’t testing their patchsets on bare metal. So it’s not just code that gets called out, it’s also development methods that end up causing upstream pain.

superminerJG, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

One does not simply break userspace. You’ll receive more than just angry bug reports. There are restless maintainers who will not sleep. And the great corporations are ever watchful.

Thcdenton, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

Shut up Mauro

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Why so many people see letter as containing onlt 3 words and ignore part where Linus says that maintainer shouldn’t randomly blame userspace, how unrelated error code is(it’s like if your router crashed with message “there is no milk in the fridge”), repeats that maintainer shouldn’t randomly blame userspace, asks if patch good enough, says “WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE”,

I’m angry, because your whole email was so horribly wrong, and the patch that broke things was so obviously crap.

The fact that you then try to make excuses for breaking user space, and blaming some external program that used to work, is just shameful. It’s not how we work.

and says that tests should be improved?

Thcdenton,

Shut up Linus

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Here’s another shitter/reddit sofa warrior, who can’t read more than one line

therealjcdenton, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

Man feel bad for the guy getting yelled yet

Jarix, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

anyone played MUDs MUSHs or MOOs?

That font gives me so much nostalgia

AmberPrince, (edited )

Whoa. That takes me back. Do you think MUDs are still around?

Edit: Holy fuck Aardwolf is still around.

Thrift3499,

I’ve been enjoying starmourn recently, it’s pretty good.

Jarix,

What client are you using? I used a cracked copy of zmud for so long. Never did use cmud client

RalphFurley,

Circle MUD I barely remember. Played MUME (Middle Earth mud I think is still around). Those were the days

Jarix,

Ahh yeah circlemuds I played a heavily modified circlemud. Almost everyone left when WoW was released

PorradaVFR,

AberMUD … so many hours … inoculated me from ever taking on EQ tho so that’s good.

Jarix,

Not gonna lie i still have some old log files saved that i am probably gonna try and find now

MTK, to linuxmemes in Linus does not fuck around

First of all, this is horrible and no one should talk like that.

But it’s funny that he censored the word “fucking” as if that crossed some line

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

No, it’s for emphasis

worldsayshi,

As i understand it Linus has at least acknowledged that his tone has been very problematic and has been working on the way he expresses himself.

sugartits,

To add context:

Linus only reacted this way to people who really should have known better. This isn’t a “here is my first ever patch, I read all the rules and I hope I didn’t break any” situation. The person he is chewing out is a kernel maintainer. They are someone who is experienced and trusted and Linus was rightly angry that this poor quality work was submitted.

However… Linus has also worked a lot on himself in the past few years, fully acknowledging that he shouldn’t behave this harshly when someone fucks up. If the same situation was to present itself today, he would be much more professional, but would probably still be a bit angry and you’d know about it.

Linus is a flawed human being, but credit where it is due, he has worked on some of his character flaws.

MTK,

Sure but this is still horrible and should not have been sent.

But I agree with you.

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