Try doing that in Iceland. They’re both very aware and conflicted about invasive species up there. Lupin is invasive and covering the country and also building soil from nothing, Pine trees are invasive and the quickest way to get treecover that is desperately needed.
Makes for weird discussions, I guess Iceland is such and extreme case that nobody really knows if they should be saving the ecosystem it had managed to scratch together before we turned up or if they should be trying to rush a healthier ecosystem with imports (Iceland was pretty thin and fragile even before humans and we wrecked what little there was)
In California, we have Tumbleweed, and it’s actually really useful for stabilizing/fertilizing loose, disturbed soils and making shelter for native grasses and plants to start growing near. They also love to fuck with cars by jumping out in front of them at every opportunity.
While waving a flaming Deku stick around probably isn’t safe I don’t think you can blame California’s wildfires on a pointy-eared kid with a floppy hat.
Plants may add oxalate leachate to soil, making phosphorous more available and facilitating colonization. Can increase fire hazard, especially along tree rows and fences when dead plants build up.
Increases fire hazard (though may be a hazard primarily to human landscapes).
In other words, it doesn’t meaningfully contribute to the overall ecological fire hazard, you’re mostly talking highway veg fires and stuff, which happen with or without tumbleweeds.
Are there many species there that are specific to Iceland which would be harmed by lupines and pines taking over?
If it’s most an amalgamation of stuff that commonly found elsewhere I think it would be fine.
If pine seeds came to Iceland on the wind 100 years before humans got there it would have been considered native. Most the seeds of all the other stuff got there the same way I imagine, unless they’ve been isolated since the island split from a continent somewhere.
Well there’s the native birch forests, which get outcompeted. But given the vikings killed them off it’s mostly just the opportunity cost of planting pine over birch. There was a bit of both, so it’s not all or nothing of course
I mean down here we just embrace the kudzu. Ok, that’s not true. Down here if you sit for too long, but not as long as you’d think. The kudzu embraces you.
True, but look at the documentation for IBM platforms and compare it to legacy documentation from Microsoft. People keep using it and part of it is because it has a lower maintenance cost than the short term costs of moving on. It’s not trust that exists in a vacuum, Microsoft has tried to sell too hard being a Microsoft developer using their Microsoft tools to ever have that legacy demand, companies will just use *nix instead.
Ugch, fine, you can use me to feed a patch of mushrooms that's beginning to grow in the now-warming areas of the planet, ultimately to become a giant organism/network that covers Antarctica in white mycelium/mushrooms/spores to replace the albedo effect of snow/ice to save the future of all life on Earth.
Antarctic Substrate Location? I was thinking on a hill surrounded by antarctic pearlwort in bloom.
If you mean ADSL, yeah that's what I have. Just 6Mbps (7-8 if I'm lucky).
The other thing? Not sure how it's relevant, but
A: 3 comments (and days) ago, I referenced the Armored Core demo on a specific PS1 demo disc. And I with health issues, you may as well consider me even older than I actually am.
S: No. (G: ideally, a brain-in-a-jar hooked up to a computer or something like this)
L: Pretty fucking far from OK Antarctica. I'm in the-edge-of-nowhere in northern trickledown-land.
So you can buy the spores online and have them legally shipped to your door basically anywhere in the US from a site sharing it’s name with the garden humans first lived in before Eve ate the apple
Once you’ve got those they grow in a shotgun fruiting chamber, a type of fungus growing that is used for many kinds of mushrooms and is completely normal to talk about.
You take some vermiculite, brown rice flour, and some jars, sterilize the dirt (boil it), put it in jars, and squirt some spores into the jars
Leave them in a drawer to become a full cake, then into the fruiting chamber. Spritz with water 3x daily and in a month you’ve got more mushrooms than you can cook with
My first harvest was a little over an oz of dried goodness for an investment initially of about $150, and I can do it again at least 2 more times with current supplies
Thankfully the earth is a self-stabilizing system. Unfortunately it takes a few million years for the natural carbon cycle to reach equilibrium from a swing out point such as this.
Yeah, and it will stabilize to a climate that isn’t very habitable for anything that currently lives here, maybe nothing will be here but simple called organisms, we really don’t know how bad it will be.
Please reread my comment. It will stabilize it will just take an epoch. We will be very dead and extinct before that happens planet will be fine though It’s been through far worse. I for one am excited to see what survives the next great dying.
My field is not climate change Nor am I an climate historian, but if I remember correctly take something like 25 to 35 million years give or take for the current excess carbon to be sequestered naturally
Sorry to be an ass but the stupid “the Earth will be fine” nonsense needs to end. Nobody thinks we’re going to “kill” all the rocks, and earth’s core, and the mantle and mountains lol. We’re talking about our fucking habitat and ecosystem we need to survive.
We and many/most other species cannot survive/adapt fast enough to a fast and catastrophic change to our habitat, which we absolutely objectively are causing. Just because we could possibly survive this because of our ingenuity and intelligence is completely irrelevant. I don’t want our greatest challenge as a species to be figuring out how to survive a dystopian apocalyptic scenario because of extreme greed and selfishness. I’d prefer our species challenges to be things like star trek warp drives and replicators and holodecks and other cool stuff instead, but no we gotta keep making sure billionaires make even more money.
We’re talking about our fucking habitat and ecosystem we need to survive.
Are we though? I see so much “The earth is gonna die!” and “Life is doomed!” everywhere, but as this guy correctly points out, the planet will be fine.
In fact, humans will endure too. It’s just our current civilisation that’s in danger, that’s all.
But people do like to hyperbolise all over the place haha, and people start to believe it. It’s important to make the distinction.
Well dolphins are already being cooked to death in shallow rivers and most of the crabs are gone. Are they fine?
The planet and the concept of organic life will likely be fine but a massive extinction of most life really isn’t “fine” it’s horrific and should be a wake up call at the concept of that amount of loss of life and diversity.
Whatever remains even if humans are part of it would be so vastly different it’s hard to even begin to predict the appearance of it. It’s like saying don’t worry the dinosaurs survived their apocalypse cause that chicken you ate for dinner shared an ancestor.
Best case scenario is a mostly dead planet where we stay in large concrete bunkers all day and eat the phytoplankton blooms on the surface of the ocean that killed most interior life for protein and substance while we hide from the sun… Yay. What a life. And that’s saying no one struggles while drowning and throws bombs around.
I know hope is how people get through all this and you just got to keep it to move forward but like we need to realistically look at the future in order to not just be blinded by a false hope because it’s easier and what is needed to be sold to people so they keep consuming without looking at where it’s leading us.
There isn’t hyperbole in the horrors that happen because we couldn’t get our shit together.
Is it actually self-stabilizing though? Or I guess it depends what you mean by that. AFAIK the earth has been in many different stages lasting for long times, changing from one to the other due to various factors. But it’s unlikely earth will return to a pre-industrial state, even after millions of years, especially if we keep emitting CO2, I believe.
But if you just mean that a new plateau will be reached eventually, then sure, a mass extinction will still happen though.
If the earth enters a state where most of the water is locked up in glaciers (‘snowball earth’), then it is unlikely that it will be able to exit it. Similarly, if it becomes too hot, it is again unlikely that it will return to what it is now. The earth can handle small disturbances in CO2 / temp, but a sufficiently large swing can lock us into one of the extreme situations.
True, however there were extinctions caused by far larger increases in CO2 than we have today and it didn’t happen. So at this moment it does not seem likely that we will achieve it this time.
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