I feel what we’re seeing is a lack of OC from actual humans, that is being filled in by your standard karma farming bot. Doubt we’re at the AI filled posts time yet. Thinking those will be less obvious, and show up over the next couple months. So glad I’m part of a site without user karma. It means reposts are likely from passionate users rather than bots.
Yeah, but Kbin has "reputation", which is very similar to karma. The whole voting business, while useful for post/comment sorting and collection of metrics, also gives bad incentives and delivers data also great for bot farms. I'd be happy if it didn't exist at all.
A little searching with DuckDuckGo reveals that this tweet was made in January 2023. Not sure whether it's also bot-vomited from a previous instance of the same remark. It's telling that the r/all post doesn't link to the tweet or give a date.
Yeah, I'm wondering if the chorus of comments are also harvested from the various prior threads to make it look like what real conversations would be about.
Correct! The flower would also have been acceptable.
I kid, but i do wonder whether bots will use discussions about bots to seed their bot conversations. Can a large language model have an existential crisis?
I think it's funny that in response to this people are STILL insisting that it's easy to find new mods. TIHI, interestingasfuck, and shittylifeprotips have been closed for over a week because they have no mods. Before TIHI mods got banned, they offered multiple users complaining the option to take over moderating the sub and they said no.
How does any of this point to it being easy to replace mods? Delusional
You would think that Reddit would have put some new mods in there right away (even if those "new mods" were just socks being staffed by Reddit employees) to put pressure on other subreddits.
That's hard to do when you're not profitable lol and with reddit users/creators leaving en masse, I don't see reddit ever being profitable since those are the same people that made the site what it was, not reddit employees.
Oh well too bad, but the fediverse is interesting and it has potential to be better than reddit could ever dream of being, without a single monolith able to destroy it. Decentralization is the future of the internet.
I think part of it is about retention .... retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.
I'm currently in the process of ending my four accounts I have on reddit. Two of them are over 100,000 in karma and when I read this post, the very first thing that popped into my mind was .... HOW MUCH WILL MY ACCOUNTS BE WORTH?
So it's now making me think ... if I can just keep up my account for another while, maybe I can cash in on all that karma I accumulated.
I am sure that many other redditors are thinking the same. The way this reddit admin posted the info is really weird too ... it sounded like some salesman just enticing people into an idea but not fully being able to say much about it and instead making vague suggestions that something big is coming in the future.
I know a sales job when I see one .... and this is a sales job. Many people will fall for it ... if not just to hang on to see if they can at least cash in our something ... anything when the announcement happens.
Say or think what you want about me ... but I'm ending this relationship and deleting my accounts ... I don't trust big corporations to say or do anything that might give me a chance at anything. Any action they elicit from me or any user will be gamed to only benefit them. If not enough people figure that out ... reddit will make bank in the short term and that is all they are counting on.
I think part of it is about retention … retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.>
If they were actually serious about retention of high karma users they could at least consider not suspending/ banning such users without a very good reason. My previous account on there was nuked for reasons I dont understand to this day, I would have happily stayed on otherwise. I have a temporary account there now which I had no intention of putting any money into - well now the one reason i might have been tempted to do so is going away anyway.
The award/ coin system was great, and I spent a bit of money on it, it was also a very good way to pay for or be paid for small international transactions - I assisted a few people with minor things and they paid my costs such as they were with reddit coin, saving them and me international bank transaction fees. I also liked rewarding intelligent and incisive comments that needed recognition as such.
One thing I’ve seen a lot of is comments wishing that Lemmy/Kbin had support for some sort of gilding. So it’s obviously a feature that people enjoyed using which means Reddit just has to enshittify it. This is the way.
Precisely. They were a fun thing to give out, and directly helped to pay for server time. I even liked how Reddit would tell you how much server time your awards gave to Reddit (which I think they've removed?).
100%, but the Federated nature would make this difficult, I'd imagine.
I'd love a way to simultaneously:
show someone I appreciate their comment
Help support an instance
Help support KBin development
But, outside of crypto, I don't see an easy way to make that happen and doing it through crypto would bring out the crypto bros and mega-anti crypto joe's in about equal numbers, which would suck (plus, who's to say that an instance admin even wants to deal with crypto to collect a few bucks).
Absolutely! Server donations are good for a single instance but I think a service that allows users to purchase gold/awards and awards the particular instance (with funds) that they get used on would help fund the Fediverse as a whole. I imagine implementing something like that would not be simple but anything is better than injecting ads.
implementing something like that would not be simple
Especially with the idea that an instance a user calls home/registered on would have to be ok with allowing a donation link to go to the instance that the user you're "gilding" is on
@Ernest has transferred the existing Buy Me A Coffee money over to the server fund and from this point on we really can buy him a beer via Buy Me A Coffee which is cool!
I'm not Ernest but my guess is it gives us greater flexibility?
Like, some of us are already active on one or the other of those platforms, plus between them there are lots of different options for amount. I'd never heard of Liberapay but I like how it's a non-profit.
Well there are 49 subscribed people on patreon totaling $170/month. Lots of people probably already have accounts set up which makes it a very low threshold to join.
Meanwhile on librepay, arguably more philosophically suitable, there are 11 subscribers totaling $13/month.
Man, considering how many people I have seen saying how great it is to be able to pay, and asserting they are making donations, those are very low numbers.
Could be because it is less circulated. I had seen the coffee option previously but didn't realise the other 2 options had been setup until I came across this comment.
Was there any indication something like this was coming?
Also, I only learned last 1-2 months during the API fiasco that Reddit had some weird NFT thing going on.. Are they just trying to find anything that will stick?
It's rumored that Reddit is about to launch a new "creator program" that will pay Redditors for high-karma activity on the site. This change is probably meant to accommodate this new feature.
how could they even have the cashflow to support that?
I'm guessing new deals with advertisers. These changes will incentivize more neutral, advertiser-friendly comments on their platform. I imagine that's going to make them more lucrative to advertisers going forward, so that their ads are shown next to harmless memes instead of bad-faith political arguments in cat pic subreddits.
I'll be honest I was kinda waiting for r/CyberpunkGame to do this, given the lean of the game (even if you went with the most Corpo-ish ending, it was still kinda anti-Corpo). Good on them for taking a stand.
As a nomad, I finished the game leaving Night City with the Aldercados & Judy. Seemed the best ending...haven't tried the others yet. I think that's the most anti-corpo ending you get out of the game.
My first ending I killed myself because I didn’t understand the two options it gave me. Option I selected was something like “end it” and I thought it meant like go to the final fight 💀
The other endings are definitely worth going through! Thematically, I think the secret ending is actually the most possible to be canon (i.e., going out for all time in a blaze of glory), but in terms of character development, I agree, The Star ending with Judy and Panam is the most cohesive.
At least until we get Phantom Liberty. From the trailers, it definitely looks like there's gonna be a continuation or development in V's story. And I don't want to read too much into it, but if you remember the base game's launch, almost all the cinematics/graphic banners featured a male V. But he was switched out for female V in the marketing of the game sometime during CP2077's great fiasco. It's been all female V, even up to now.
Speaking about Phantom Liberty it reminds me. I finished the game prior to the patch that included items about David. Do you know if the events of Edgerunner are supposed to occur canonically during the events V's experiences, or afterwards?
The number of people willing to die on this hill is actually quite surprising, and in a good way. So many people have made peace with leaving their subs, their mod powers, and even their entire Reddit accounts behind to fuck over that piece of shit running the place.
My mod team and I are basically not doing any modding. Whatever was in place is still in place, about once a week I clean the mod queue. None of us really login anymore. It’ll eventually become a dumpster fire but so far, it’s not too terrible from what I can see. We used to all be on there checking the top posts and making sure they didn’t violate the rules but, not anymore.
I’ve been wanting to leave Reddit since the fascists were allowed to have a platform there uncontested. This naked utter contempt for the users and mods of the site was the push I needed to finally do so. And whaddaya know, it’s people who have similar values to me that left, while the bootlickers stayed. Win-win!
They'll vent their frustration at the world bots, who'll take it and engage right back at them, giving them as much attention as they want. Reddit = babysitter service, wha-hoo! :-P
I would probably wait and see if they release a “Complete Edition” that comes with the new expansion pack and grab it when that’s on sale. The game is fun, but I personally feel like it’s a “one-and-done” sort of game.
I played it on release for PC. It was good, although it felt incomplete. Bugs weren't as bad for the PC version as they were apparently on console, but they were there. New expansion is coming out soon, so there is probably going to be a sale then. I'd imagine the new expansion will improve (I hope) the things the game got wrong.
It was pretty bad. Like, people were flying instead of walking. The same people repeated over and over. Going into any populated areas sounded like an acid trip of echoing voices. The floor usually disappeared. My weapons were invisible. List goes on
It was pretty bad. Like, people were flying instead of walking. The same people repeated over and over. Going into any populated areas sounded like an acid trip of echoing voices. The floor usually disappeared. My weapons were invisible. List goes on
There's been talk that the upcoming expansion for the game (Phantom Liberty) will kinda overhaul some of the game's systems a bit, and make them closer to what was originally intended or hoped for. If you're still on the fence now, I suggest waiting a few more months, seeing if the DLC makes good on its hype, and grabbing everything then.
These are just my first 2 search results, but basically they all say the same thing:
It's still not at all the game that they originally sold people pre-release though. If you go into it thinking that you're going to be getting an action looter-shooter with some interesting mechanics and great visuals then you'll get pretty much what you're expecting.
Going into it buying CDPR's line about it being the "next generation of open-world gaming" and "Evolution of RPG's" or whatever crap they were spewing, will leave a sour taste in your mouth.
The main campaign and side-mission storylines are just flat-out great though.
CDPR have always been good at doing the storytelling side of things, and that didn't really change with Cyberpunk.
Total fraud on release though, especially on console. Fuck them for what they did there.
For transparency, I'm referring to how it is currently on PC, where you also get mods if you want them. I couldn't comment on the console experience as I haven't played it.
Definitely wait for a sale though if you do one day go for it, I don't think it's good enough for the full price. Too many things are still lacking, although the upcomming DLC may fix that (which still means paying extra to fix the shit that should have been in the base game since release... Yeah).
I've been playing it over a year now. Once I was able to snag a PS5 and Playstation put it back in the store I picked it up.
MUCH MUCH better playing than launch...r/cyberpunk2077 used up a lot of salt throughout its tenure as a subreddit. Yet most the extreme hate the game drew was due to the insane promises CDPR made prior to launch. I'm personally not buying the DLC coming out in September until after it's released because of the botched launch, however I do expect it's going to run a lot smoother than the game's launch.
BUT as a base game, if you can pick it up on sale now, by all means I recommend getting it.
I had noticed a sharp decline in quality. It was a kind of frog in boiling water situation, where more and more content was from Twitter, tiktok, poor ragebait about us politics....
I remember I went to reddit because that is where content from other platforms had originated. That stopped at some point
I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.
It has long been screenshots of twitter (primarily WhitePeopleTwitter, BlackPeopleTwitter) for years, at least since 2016.
Also short form video is all the rage and Reddit is really pushing it, but that basically means it's just all TikTok re-uploads (or crops of TikTok, or crops of TikTok of crops of Youtube). The new Reddit video player is really mostly screen recordings of things.
The last year or two once Reddit became really really mainstream has had a lot more repost bots though. They basically do two things: farm small subs and repost their content into larger ones, or pull content from the front page from 6+ months ago and repost it (even the top comments are often blatantly reposted). The bots coincide with reddit getting more into ads and mainstream advertisers.
But, there have been prolific reposters like Gallowboob for many many years.
I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.
I don't know. I don't think I agree. I've been seeing a lot more truly garbage-tier content on the first few pages of r/all lately, from some really weird, never-before-seen, garbage-tier subs. Half of them I don't even know what they're supposed to be about. What the fuck is a Honk Star Rail? Where the fuck did Pop Culture Chat come from? Who the fuck is Peter, and why is he explaining jokes? I used to doomscroll down to page 8 or 9 before I started seeing weird stuff like this, and now it's right there on page 1. In the past, when I started seeing that weird Taylor Swift Simp Cult sub, I knew I'd been on reddit too long. Now they regularly show up, if not on page 1, then high on page 2.
Along with the r/AmITheAsshole scab copy sub, r/AITAH, which somehow managed to make it to the front page in record time after it's creation, even though it has about 9% as many subscribers as the original did.
Hell, some of these posts on page 1 of r/all only have 1500 upvotes. That's insane.
I'm still enjoying a few of the smaller niche subreddits I'm subscribed to. And worldnews' live thread about the Ukraine war is still good. Otherwise I'm not really engaging any more, and once those niche subreddits start winking out over time I'll probably stop. Or they remove old.reddit.
I didn't think Spez would literally drive his platform to ashes, I thought there was a middle ground, but nope he is going straight to the logical conclusion to all this.
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