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SuperSpruce, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

I’m currently daily driving Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. I didn’t think GNOME would be all my thing, but it’s really intuitive and has just enough options to satisfy all my desires (okay, I needed the gesture improvements extension for some of them).

It’s great to see GNOME focusing on what really matters. I think because they keep it simple to the user, they have more time to focus on important but harder to implement features rather than focusing on heavy customization (I love KDE too, don’t worry) But now I want to switch to Fedora or something bleeding edge, because of GNOME.

skankhunt42, to linux in RHEL's Source Code Access Change Is Causing Issues For CentOS SIGs
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It just never ends. I’m so happy I’ve moved to Debian.

pastermil, to linux in RHEL's Source Code Access Change Is Causing Issues For CentOS SIGs

OpenELA just became more relevant than ever!

Fisch, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control
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I wish GNOME had DRM on Wayland, kinda annoying to always have to switch to Xorg for VR

ryannathans, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

Wonder if COSMIC will launch with VRR

mmstick,
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It already supports VRR and DRM leasing. VRR monitors and VR headsets have been tested.

SuperSpruce, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

This is what Windows should be focusing on rather than trying to shove AI crap everywhere.

SmoochyPit,

Agreed. Windows’ HDR support is rough. It’s fine for gaming, but you can’t display SDR and HDR content together like MacOS. I think that’s why Apple holds a big part of the market for creatives.

HalcyonReverb, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

The Steam Deck is what got me to finally try modern KDE and eventually switch to it. I recently moved my gaming PC to Fedora 39, and considered trying Gnome again for variety’s sake until I remembered that it currently does not natively support VRR, so this is good news.

I think I prefer Plasma at this point, and I’m excited with Plasma 6 around the corner, but my desktop PC is basically a gaming appliance, so I think the relative simplicity of Gnome might be nice to run on there eventually as these features catch up. I like to have variety in what I’m running anyways. I appreciate that it gives me a wider perspective on my preferences.

TheGrandNagus, (edited ) to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

Great. I heard there was a cursor flickering issue under some niche scenarios, due to the cursor and the content’s framerates becoming out of sync with one another after exiting some full screen apps, that was previously preventing the merge of this feature.

I’m assuming it’s been solved?

The “Preserve battery healthy by keeping charge between 20% and 80%” is a nice option too

aport, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control

I find GNOME’s “must be perfect” approach to accepting new code counterintuitive.

One of the largest benefits of having a clean architecture is increased velocity and extensibility. What’s the point in nitpicking over perfection when it takes literally years to merge a feature, arguably one considered basic and essential by today’s standards?

KDE is on the other side of this pendulum, integrating everything and resulting in a disjointed, buggy disaster.

Where’s the middle way? It used to be XFCE. What is it now?

maness300,

KDE is very stable.

aport,

Lol

possiblylinux127,

Only on Debian Stable

KarnaSubarna,
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Quality control is important for a project that is going to be supported for long time, and used by many. Slow but steady is a right approach for open source project, IMO.

TheGrandNagus, (edited )

I definitely get what you mean, and sometimes agree, but tbh I’m glad Gnome is an option for those who want a DE that is uncompromisingly UX-focused and straight up won’t accept changes until they’re damn sure it’ll be production-ready.

And while they’ve been relatively slow in getting adaptive refresh working, they’ve been very quick with some other things. Idk why it took them this long to sort out the cursor occasionally becoming out of sync with displayed content’s refresh rate, but there must be a reason for it.

Gnome was at the forefront with Wayland, PulseAudio, they’ve been the biggest pusher of Portals, pretty much all of their GTK4 apps have been designed to also be compatible with mobile devices. Accessibility features on Gnome are also pretty great for a Linux DE.

As a general rule, I’d say their development process works well, despite there being the occasional holdup.

And while Plasma obviously isn’t nearly as bug-free as Gnome, it’s come a long way since the Plasma 4/early Plasma 5 days. I still don’t feel I can depend on it the same as I could for Gnome or Cinnamon (compositor crashes bringing down all open apps is a big issue in particular - and is finally due to be fixed in Plasma 6), but don’t underestimate their progress — since like 5.15/5.16 they’ve improved leaps and bounds.

And with 6 it looks like they’ve learned from the mistakes of 4 and 5’s launches.

Voytrekk, to linux in GNOME Sees Progress On Variable Refresh Rate Setting, Adding Battery Charge Control
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The lack of VRR in GNOME is what had me change to KDE. I prefer GNOME in many ways, but I was tired of having to use the vrr patches to keep the functionality.

warmaster,

This. As soon as GNOME gets VRR & HDR, I think I’m going back. Also, I’ve read Steam has great integration with KDE, does anyone know how exactly?

bitwolf,

I don’t think in any way that would lose an advantage over gnome.

Having a Steam Deck, the only integration I see is the “Return to Steam” shortcut and a change to the logo.

When you run the Steam Deck gaming mode it bypasses KDE entirely and uses its own game scope compositor.

warmaster,

According to GloriousEggroll it goes way beyond that. I just don’t know what it does.

ReakDuck, (edited )

I thought its an entire different desktop. Especially itd not possible to run gamescope while a X11 Desktop is running so I guess you are wrong with “bypassing”. Its just switching to gamescope. Its a Wayland compositor. It does even less than a Window Manager (is this right?)

warmaster,

I run GameScope for CS2. The rest of the desktop runs Wayland.

ReakDuck,

Yeah, this setting is possible as your underlying desktop uses Wayland

warmaster,

Yup. Gamescope doesn’t work without Wayland.

bitwolf,

Bypass is maybe a poor choice of words. Both gamescope and Kwin are compositors so you can use one or the other.

An advantage of making gamescope is that they can add features like VRR or HDR without having to wayiting for KWin to implement it

ReakDuck,

I assume as this is a Gaming mode, its purpose is not to avoid waiting for features. But close the entire desktop which may use up to 1GB RAM and a by of CPU. Which definetly impacts the game by some fraction. Doesnt matter how tiny, its just what gaming modes are having as focus I assume.

The next thing I would never see on a desktop is FSR which gamescope has.

KarnaSubarna,
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If you are using Arch, it can be enabled (though it’s still experimental) [1]

[1] wiki.archlinux.org/title/Variable_refresh_rate#GN…

jodanlime,
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Have you tried it? How is stability?

KarnaSubarna, (edited )
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My monitor is old, doesn’t support VRR 😕

Kristof12, to linux in Arch-Based Endeavour OS Updates ISO With Linux 6.7 Kernel, Mesa 23.3.3
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Kernel 6.7 on ISO, noice

MaliciousKebab, to linux in Niri Debuts As A Scrollable -Tiling Wayland Compositor Inspired By PaperWM

Man there is a night and day difference between the comments here and on phoronix, what is their problem?

isVeryLoud,

Phoronixposting rots your brain

thejevans, to linux in Niri Debuts As A Scrollable -Tiling Wayland Compositor Inspired By PaperWM
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The COPR package didn’t work for me on Nobara, so I had to build from source, but it works great. There are a couple of things I don’t like, but overall seems pretty neat.

If I can get Xwayland to work nicely for steam with high refresh rates, then it seems like this might be the WM for me until COSMIC-DE comes out.

Hector, to linux in Niri Debuts As A Scrollable -Tiling Wayland Compositor Inspired By PaperWM

I have had it installed for a while and I check it after every update. I can’t use it yet as my daily driver because of scaling issues. The desktop scales properly but windows do not. Fonts are too small and the cursor is tiny. I figured out how to scale the cursor manually but I couldnt scale the windows.

eager_eagle, to linux in Niri Debuts As A Scrollable -Tiling Wayland Compositor Inspired By PaperWM
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Looks nice. Is anyone able to tell if I’m going to screw up my KDE install if I try it out? I’ve never tried WM / compositors on KDE that weren’t targeting KDE before.

uzay,

I recommend rather spinning up a VM to try it out first.

AVengefulAxolotl, (edited )

It should be fine I think. On Linux you can have multiple Desktop Environments installed (ex KDE Plasma & Gnome as well.)

I tried Hyprland a few months ago like this. I had Plasma installed then installed hyprland as well. During login with SDDM you can select which DE to launch.

Edit: On github it says you should install it alone to make sure. I dont know then, maybe it works? I am still new to Linux as well.

narc0tic_bird,

I installed GNOME and KDE side-by-side once on Fedora, and that messed a whole bunch of things up like configuration files, icons etc. YMMV

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