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Tygr, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

If I’m to believe I own the crap I buy that’s digital delivery, then if they want to take it back, they need to buy it from me at my price.

ddkman, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

I think when this happens you DO get a refund, (usually a coupon for the same service, but still). This is a situation where villanizing Sony would be, but not necessarily correct. Obviously they have no interest to remove previously purchased content from user libraries. (like this).

So the question is, on what possible grounds can a company change licensing AFTER sales have been made. This is the same fucking mess as with the soundtrack being retroactively removed from GTAIV. How is this legal?

conciselyverbose,

A coupon for the same service is not and does not resemble a refund.

Yes, villainizing them is entirely correct. If they sold the license 100 years ago and stopped providing it, they should be legally liable for a 100% refund of the purchase price, plus interest. If they fucked up their contracts in a manner in which they aren't able to serve the content to purchasers until the end of the time, it's entirely their own problem.

ddkman, (edited )

When companies fight regulations they use statements THIS unreasonable to fight better legislation, for framing everyone who supports better regulation, as completely unreasonable whining anti capitalistic bigots, who just want regulation that makes conducting any business basically impossible.

With this logic, if your DVD rots, does the company who originally released the DVD owe you a full refund plus interest?

conciselyverbose, (edited )

No, backing it up is your obligation.

A digital purchase means they owe you access, in the format your purchased, as long as they exist. Nothing short of that can possibly be acceptable if there is any copy protection at all.

AceBonobo, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

Discovery Entitlements Affected Titles

As of 31 December 2023, due to our content licensing arrangements with content providers, you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed from your video library.

We sincerely thank you for your continued support.

Thank you,

PlayStation Store

interceder270,

LOL

brygphilomena,

Turns out you people didn’t actually purchase it.

I wonder if anywhere in the “purchase” terms they included “while Sony holds the license to distribute.”

I hate that “purchases” people make are restricted per platform. If I “purchase” a specific title it should be available on any and all platforms that serve that content. No one should be asked to purchase it on Sony. Apple, Netflix, Amazon, or whatever other shitty streaming service comes out.

As much as I think nfts are fucking retarded, this could be one of the few cases where that stupid digital receipt might make sense.

NoIWontPickaName,

Y’arr Matey🏴‍☠️

Chetzemoka,

My understanding was this was the actual intended use case for NFTs. To allow you to properly own a digital item. The fact that it got applied to a stupid fad right out the gate doesn’t change the fact that it should actually be used to allow us to own things again.

Uranium3006,
@Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

NFTs don't solve the actual problem, which is that paying money doesn't legally come with a warranty for accessability of the thing you bought. The law should guarantee the right to access anything purchased or marketed similarly for a given period of years with the right to either a Refund or a DRM free download option if said access is no longer offered for any reason, and mandatory cultural preservation of said media as a precondition to legally profit off of it or enforce copyright using the court system

SendMePhotos, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

If I purchased it, do I get store credit for losing what I bought?

empireOfLove,

lol

DebatableRaccoon,

That’s funny. You should do stand-up

Frozengyro,

Yes, but since it’s “used”, you get .1 percent what you paid for it.

7u5k3n,

It loses 70% of it’s value as soon as you drive watch it off the lot

DestroyerOfWorlds, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

just got my multi season science fiction show downloaded via the salty seas. apparantly it would cost $50-85 to download or stream from the “legit” vendor. A vendor that bought the rights and closed the ability to access previous seasons. So, not going well for the loyal customers.

pan_troglodytes, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

almost like “purchasing” it was the real crime.

CosmicCleric, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

That list of shows that’s being removed is huge too.

God I hope people reconsider purchasing products from companies that do these kind of things to them.

At some point you think if they get smacked up the side of their heads enough times that they will actually wake up and do something about it.

Blackmist, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

Scrolling through the list I can’t believe that people actually watch that shit, let alone pay for it.

It’s all the kind of crap that people leave used to leave on in the background and to get bombarded with 4 sets of adverts an hour. The direct result of needing to fill 200 channels as cheaply as possible.

Refunding everyone would probably cost Sony less than a million. I’d wager some of those shows nobody has ever purchased.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

You don’t like it which is fine but no need to call out people who do. My dad loves deadliest catch and has been watching it for years, he records it and then fast forwards through the ad breaks something that’s been around 10 years now.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Deadly Dentists didn’t get good until season 2 anyway.

KpochMX, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

This is why i hate digital only and no more game disc, also battlepass and dlc.

you own nothing but pays the full price for the permission to play and they cant remove access at any time.-

Marvel vs capcom 2 its my favorite game and they removed from store, i know is about licensing but they will not come to my house for the DVD Disc right?

noobdoomguy8658, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

That’s 1318 items, according to that table, counting by seasons. Insane.

Stovetop, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

On the one hand, I sympathize with anyone losing access to How It’s Made and Mythbusters. But for everything else on that list, that money was already thrown away for no good reason. I’d like to hope the audiences were small or non-existent to begin with.

Sony is doing the world a favor by purging most of that garbage from their service, to be perfectly honest.

DrQuint, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

sony is going to steal

Lath, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

Whoever wrote that list probably isn't being paid enough.

andrew_bidlaw, (edited ) to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Some series have a weird pattern of deletion.

LA Ink | Season 1

LA Ink | Season 6

LA Ink | Season 7

Lolwut. Does it mean 2-5 are still availiable or they never were?

It’s all Discovery Channel’s properties, and it’s a good day to rewatch their classics and seed them.

spacecowboy, to piracy in Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sony kind of has their hands tied on this one. The shows they’re delisting (or are not able to relicense) kind of get to take their IP off of the system, no?

russjr08,
@russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net avatar

I imagine that is the case, however they could refund it given the situation.

I get the feeling they won’t allow refunds.

spacecowboy,

True, but I doubt any giant corp entity would do refunds in this day and age.

Not defending Sony, just saying this is SOP, as shitty as it is.

hitmyspot,

If they didn’t have a licence to host it in perpetuity, they shouldn’t have sold it in the first place.

Yes, they should pull it if they legally have to. That’s following the law. However, they should refund consumers in full or ensure that they continue to have the media without restrictions.

Blue_Morpho,

More than refund should be legally due. The cost to repurchase the product is what is due.

Yoruio,

nothing is legally due, Sony more than likely has clauses in their ToS that say they can remove access to content for whatever reason.

Morally fucked up, but legally fine.

Blue_Morpho,

Everything was once “legally fine” until a court ruled otherwise.

Shrinkwrap licenses were once “legally fine”.

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