While I agree with the sentiment here, any sudden event happening with the Sun is is the only kind of event that could not be communicated by memes. It would require someone to witness the light of the supernova, create a meme, and post it from the section of the Earth experiencing noon, and for someone experiencing midnight to read the same meme at the same exact moment the supernova reaches them. Internet doesn’t travel faster than light, and the knowledge of a supernova happening requires being hit with the light generated by it.
Our sun will not explode, it will become a red giant, progressively grill us, pulse and contract to a white dwarf. Got a couple hundreds of millions of years before the intensity becomes unbearable, that’s a thousand times the age of our species. Hopefully we have figured interstellar travel by then, if we don’t have already destroyed ourselves. www.space.com/solar-system-fate-when-sun-dies
This is a good angel to support the theory that angels are actually misunderstood four-spatial-dimensional beings who survived the universe collapsing to three spatial dimensions.
A failure state the human brain goes into. Like how certain optical illusions work on nearly everyone
Humans build narratives off senses. If there is already a cultural narrative and you have weird data will put it in there. You got a round peg and your culture gave you a round hole.
A physical chemical allows you to outwit infinitely powerful infinitely higher beings and they are powerless to stop it.
Inference. Being invisible to us and complex is going to take a lot of effort to deceive us. You can’t see with an invisible eye. You can’t avoid sinking into the core of the earth unless you have some density, which makes you wonder why we never see their footprints. So if all our senses and technology has failed to find them they must be actively working towards that goal.
As I point out it doesn’t end there. Even if somehow some way humans just naturally couldn’t see them we have other senses we have other sensing technology we have inference. Mud and dust that show no footprints, radio site surveys that show no interference, radar, infrared, lidar…A lot of this stuff you can see for yourself
Heck how do they pass thru buildings to get in and out with density? Would we not all notice random doors and windows opening and closing? How many secure sites on earth where you need to badge in to a every room.
No, but I’m not sure how it’s relevant to a conversation about invisible beings. I suppose you suspect that information beyond your ability to sense is impossible, your love of science and rationality has twisted into science fundamentalism.
You remind me of myself in my youth. Humility certainly gets easier with age. I recommend dialing back the antagonism a bit, I warn you that in 10, 15 years you’re going to look back and cringe.
If you’re anything like I was, that warning won’t make a difference though. It’s strange being on the other side. I wish it could be otherwise, but it’s unlikely. I suppose if there were a way to effectively communicate this, then I could’ve been spared a great deal of bitterness when I was younger. Alas.
Bible: Angels visit earth and have consensual relations with human women. Angels also visit Abe and Sarah appearing to be humans. Angels visit Lot and appear to be human.
Also Bible: be not afraid of me despite being a lovecraftian nightmare!
It helps to be tripping absolute balls on mushrooms, peyote, or other hallucinogens. Well “helps” in the sense that while the angel will seem normal, ordinary rocks will now terrify you.
The sun can’t go supernova because it hasn’t finished fusing hydrogen. When it does finish, it will swell up to a red giant. This has to happen before it can explode, and the swelling process will take a very long time (in human terms).
Secondly, would it even be possible to know in that the sun has exploded?
The meme says “in the 8 minutes it takes for the light to reach us” but that would also be the precise moment in which we learn of the explosion leaving us with no time to make memes.
Which leads me back to my initial question, how, if at all possible, could we setup an early (seconds/minutes) warning system for such an event?
Possibly some kind of quantum entangled alarm system in a lower orbit around the sun?
Completely tossing around BS of course, just an interesting thought experiment.
Quantum entanglement can’t actually transmit information, it just looks like it can sometimes due to how quantum mechanics can get weird.
Get a red ball and a blue ball, and two boxes. Close your eyes and out one ball in each box. These box-balls are now “entangled”, in that you know that the contents of one is not the content of the other.
Send a box to a different country, and open yours. You instantly know that the other ball is red, since yours is blue, but the holder of the other box knows nothing new.
With the QM, it the same basic setup except both particles are in an indeterminate state, and when you look you’re making it “pick” which state it’s in, and it also makes the other one “pick”.
You can’t force it to collapse one way or the other without breaking the entanglement either, so it’d be like red-blue ball, and when you force it to be red, the other ball now has a 50/50 chance of also being red.
My guess for the only way to get some warning would be if the supernova had some form of initial, not-cataclysmic flash or outgassing shortly beforehand.
Superposition is just the “it’s in multiple states at once” part. Entanglement is the property of making how one particle comes out of superposition interrelated with how another one does.
No and yes. If it happened instantaneously then no.
However, scientists are capable of predicting solar flares well in advance. They can do that by looking at what is happening on the surface of the sun. If it was about to explode, there’d likely be some kind of unusual activity there for several days prior to the explosion. The sun is also rather big. So even if aliens decided to blow it up unexpectedly, it’d probably take more than a few minutes for the explosion to engulf the entire sun, meaning that you would have time to send a meme before lights went out.
I’m not really sure what other purpose a warning system could have. There’s no good place to hide if the sun goes out.
it’d probably take more than a few minutes for the explosion to engulf the entire sun, meaning that you would have time to send a meme before lights went out.
The sun isn’t big enough to go nova, period. It will swell up in ~5 billion years when it runs out of hydrogen in the core and starts burning helium. Then the sun will start climbing the fusion chain up to iron and there the fusion reaction in the core will die out. When this occurs the outer shell will kind of just slough away leaving a planetary nebula and an extremely hot naked mostly iron core. This core is a white dwarf and will just continue to glow for a few tens of billions of years until it loses all its heat. No fusion is happening in this bad boy it just glows from the residual heat and the heat is so hot it takes longer than the current age of the universe for that heat to dissipate.
Back to the original point though is that the sun won’t explode in a supernova because it lacks the mass to do that. You need a star that is at least 8 times as massive as the sun in order to get a supernova.
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