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Stormcrow, to piracy in Extensions list removed for Tachiyomi

I didn’t update the app and all my installed extensions work fine. What’s the MO for now? Update and re-add the extensions or just chill?

ardi60,
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

it will be better if you start moving to third party repo because those old extensions will be unmaintained by tachiyomi dev

Stormcrow,

I see, ya that makes sense, thanks

southsamurai, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Maybe one of the forks will take off

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Likely. If not, there’s always Dantotsu.

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is how FOSS dies.

Where the living fuck are the EFF’s team of lawyers?

I know they generally focus on US cases, but god damn, you’d think the egregiousness of this would get their asses involved.

MomoTimeToDie,

I mean the eff can only do so much to defend people who didn’t even fucking bother in the slightest to defend themselves and just rolled over at every turn

cloud_punk,

I feel like eff has bigger cases then a manga app dying

RobotToaster,

Was the case issued in Japan? From what I’ve read the legal system there is famously one sided, criminal cases have a 99.8% conviction rate.

ReluctantZen,

Kakao is Korean, but no cases have been issues yet right? Only threats

CJOtheReal,

Yes but thats enough for people with no money…

ReluctantZen,

For sure. I just mentioned it since the person I’m replying seemed to say a case already existed.

pjb,
@pjb@lemmy.spacestation14.com avatar

IANAL but since they used the word “threatened” instead of “I’m getting sued”, no case is being filed.

Pretty sure that if they were actually getting sued they’d already be radio silent.

baduhai, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

Here’s to hoping j2k stays actively developed. Unlikely, as j2 himself already had pretty low drive for it already. (。╯︵╰。)

newthrowaway20, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

Well, fuck.

MomoTimeToDie, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

While many will be understandably angry or disappointed in our lack of backbone or perceived selfishness

At least they’re aware of their deficiencies

roofuskit,
@roofuskit@lemmy.world avatar

How about you spend tens of thousands of dollars you don’t have to defend a hobby project in court?

Maalus,

Against a corporation that has a shitload of funding in a tech illiterate court

MomoTimeToDie,

They didn’t even fucking try the bare minimum of just refusing to comply. Besides, it’s such a comically baseless case by some fucking worthless gook company. It doesn’t cost tens of thousands of dollars to tell them to shove it up their ass, at the bare minimum.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Kakao is one of the biggest Korean companies, their app is used over there as common as Whatsapp is in the west.

MomoTimeToDie,

So entirely irrelevant in the US?

CaptainBlagbird, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

While many will be understandably angry or disappointed in our lack of backbone or perceived selfishness

I’m angry and disappointed, but it is not because awesome people stop dedicating their free time to provide a free product, it’s because some money hungry corporation decided to bully less powerful individuals who didn’t even do anything wrong.

And it’s not the first time that this company did fucked up stuff…

🖕

TWeaK, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

What even is Tachiyomi?

Edit: manga reading app, it also lets you follow sources and tells you when new episodes are published.

Perhaps one of the forks will take over.

kikuri, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

One of Tachiyomi contributors will fork the app and continue development

old.reddit.com/…/a_tachiyomi_fork_hoping_to_be_th…

AI_toothbrush,

There are already a lot of other forks no?

AbsurdityAccelerator,

I created one just for the hell of it. Call me Spartacus.

lapommedeterre,

Sparty Kiss

ObsidianZed,

I just had to look.


<span style="color:#323232;">3.2k forks
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IronKrill,

3.19k of those are inactive.

Chewy7324, (edited )

Hopefully their personal information won’t be found out by those lawyers, or they could also be threatened into stopping development. It’s sad to see how companies are bullying volunteers into stopping legal projects.

Edit: SLAPP suits are similar to this, where companies file lawsuits while knowing they’d lose, if the defendent had the time, money and stress tolerance to win the lawsuit. …wikipedia.org/…/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public…

CJOtheReal,

Companies that do that should loose all copyright and patents they ever had in return. I think that would solve the problem pretty quickly. (or the responsible person should get his hands cut off like in the good old days lol)

Secret300,

Please let reddit die already, why he post there

jacktherippah, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

Their reasoning is sound. They don’t want to defend against a corporation for a hobbyist project. There’s already going to be a fork so that’s good I guess. I just hope jay forks it for a J2K version.

SnokenKeekaGuard, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.
@SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Don’t use it but hope it gets the revanced/ cloudstream treatment and survives in another form.

Chewy7324, (edited ) to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

It’s sad to see companies threatening completely legal projects, knowing that the volunteering developers don’t have the time and money to win a lawsuit against a large company with lawyers. It’s nothing less than bullying volunteers, or similar to SLAPP suits.

Edit: typo

wiki_me,

GNOME once fought off a patent lawsuit, Maybe they could have partnered with a non profit related to FOSS that could have done the “heavy lifting”.

blackfire, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

Its a damnshame but totally understandable. Surprised it went on so long

RandomLegend,
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why would it be understandable?

Tachiyomi was 100% legal

blackfire,

It exists in the same category as pop corn time and Kodi. Sure its legal but to make it do illegal things is so easy it might as well be illegal itself from the start.

optissima,

Time to ban cars, guns, knives, screwdrivers…

Melonpoly,

I agree with the first two

Halosheep,

My fists are pretty easy to make do illegal things too. Maybe we should start cutting off people’s hands, just in case. You never know when someone might use a finger to click a PIRACY button.

junezephier, (edited ) to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

unfortunate to see, it’s been a great app for a long time. Anyone know of an alternative that’s good? I mostly just read on mobile through firefox on mangafire now, but would love if an app offered a better experience

WadamT,
@WadamT@lemmy.ml avatar

A long time contributor of Tachiyomi plans to continue the work under a new name ‘Mihon’. Reddit post

Mannivu,

There are forks (I use TachiJ2K) but who knows what their future will be.

simple, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

This sucks. Tachiyomi was by far the best app for reading comics, none of the paid options come even close in terms of options or ease of use.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s not like it’ll stop working for local files.

You could still get the actual comics anywhere, convert em to .cbz, and chuck em in some folders named by series. In that sense, Tachiyomi should keep working forever.

It’s really only the streamlined online sources that’ll break over time, and no new features will get added.

Lucky for us, looks like it’ll be getting forked and live on as “Mihon”.

TWeaK,

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources? My impression was they just did the app, and you got things from elsewhere, but I’ve never used it (or even heard of it before today).

It’s also already got 3 forks, they link them on their website.

ipha,

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources?

No, tachiyomi is just a browser for other sites.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Tachiyomi is just a comic reader, but it can aggregate from A LOT of sources, both local files and websites. Each online source (mangadex, tapas) requires a plug-in to work. Those plugins need maintenance and workarounds for stuff like cloudflare blocks.

Needless to say a lot of content hosts aren’t fans of a client that pulls content without the user ever seeing an ad or something, so these plug-ins tend to break.

rwhitisissle,

There’s a number of existing forks already. Most of them for porn. For the ones that have integrated with the last Tachiyomi update that removed native extensions, what you’ll be able to do is set a repository as an upstream apk source for whatever extensions you want. There’s plenty of those already on github. You just have to look for them.

Blackmist,

Yeah, as somebody with an ever growing pile of apps that stop working every time I upgrade my phone, I wouldn’t count on it.

If somebody doesn’t take it over and rebuild for every pointless Android change, it will eventually disappear.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I still have apps that I made to work on android 6, working just fine. Android has extremely good backwards compatibility.

The reason tachiyomis plug-ins would stop working is that the sources they pull content from keep blocking them, and there wouldn’t be anyone to come up with new workarounds.

Android itself hasn’t changed that much unless your app is overly reliant on old app permissions. Which tachiyomi isn’t.

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