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SnotFlickerman, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is how FOSS dies.

Where the living fuck are the EFF’s team of lawyers?

I know they generally focus on US cases, but god damn, you’d think the egregiousness of this would get their asses involved.

MomoTimeToDie,

I mean the eff can only do so much to defend people who didn’t even fucking bother in the slightest to defend themselves and just rolled over at every turn

cloud_punk,

I feel like eff has bigger cases then a manga app dying

RobotToaster,

Was the case issued in Japan? From what I’ve read the legal system there is famously one sided, criminal cases have a 99.8% conviction rate.

ReluctantZen,

Kakao is Korean, but no cases have been issues yet right? Only threats

CJOtheReal,

Yes but thats enough for people with no money…

ReluctantZen,

For sure. I just mentioned it since the person I’m replying seemed to say a case already existed.

pjb,
@pjb@lemmy.spacestation14.com avatar

IANAL but since they used the word “threatened” instead of “I’m getting sued”, no case is being filed.

Pretty sure that if they were actually getting sued they’d already be radio silent.

Chewy7324, (edited ) to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

It’s sad to see companies threatening completely legal projects, knowing that the volunteering developers don’t have the time and money to win a lawsuit against a large company with lawyers. It’s nothing less than bullying volunteers, or similar to SLAPP suits.

Edit: typo

wiki_me,

GNOME once fought off a patent lawsuit, Maybe they could have partnered with a non profit related to FOSS that could have done the “heavy lifting”.

kikuri, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

One of Tachiyomi contributors will fork the app and continue development

old.reddit.com/…/a_tachiyomi_fork_hoping_to_be_th…

AI_toothbrush,

There are already a lot of other forks no?

AbsurdityAccelerator,

I created one just for the hell of it. Call me Spartacus.

lapommedeterre,

Sparty Kiss

ObsidianZed,

I just had to look.


<span style="color:#323232;">3.2k forks
</span>
IronKrill,

3.19k of those are inactive.

Chewy7324, (edited )

Hopefully their personal information won’t be found out by those lawyers, or they could also be threatened into stopping development. It’s sad to see how companies are bullying volunteers into stopping legal projects.

Edit: SLAPP suits are similar to this, where companies file lawsuits while knowing they’d lose, if the defendent had the time, money and stress tolerance to win the lawsuit. …wikipedia.org/…/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public…

CJOtheReal,

Companies that do that should loose all copyright and patents they ever had in return. I think that would solve the problem pretty quickly. (or the responsible person should get his hands cut off like in the good old days lol)

Secret300,

Please let reddit die already, why he post there

CaptainBlagbird, (edited ) to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

While many will be understandably angry or disappointed in our lack of backbone or perceived selfishness

I’m angry and disappointed, but it is not because awesome people stop dedicating their free time to provide a free product, it’s because some money hungry corporation decided to bully less powerful individuals who didn’t even do anything wrong.

And it’s not the first time that this company did fucked up stuff…

🖕

whou, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

i’m so fucking sad that a shitty¹ company was able to bully a 100% legal piece of FOSS to shut down.

It is THE best app for reading manga, and it single-handedly started my love and (healthy) addiction to reading manga lol. It’s also one of the best examples on how a FOSS model is superior to any competitive proprietary one.

I hope so much luck to the devs and every contributor. Their work through all these years is immeasurable. Makes me regret a little for not trying to contribute to the community with some code at a time I was wanting to. Thanks for all the hours of fun reading manga. I’m sure at this very moment people are already organizing a fork to live on Tachiyomi’s legacy, as is the spirit of FOSS.

d3Xt3r, (edited )

There are already a few actively maintained forks of Tachiyomi. TachiJ2K and TachiyomiSY are two such popular forks which have several features not present in the original app. In fact, many hardcore manga readers in the community had already switched to them years ago. There’s also Aniyomi, which not only supports manga but also watching anime via extensions, the same way you’d read manga in Tachiyomi.

So thanks to the power of FOSS, Tachiyomi already continues to live on and you don’t need to wait for a fork.

@simple @junezephier @WadamT

Mannivu,

Are we sure TachiJ2K will still be developed? I really hope Kakao won’t threaten them too.

jacktherippah,

Jay hasn’t responded yet. I’m still holding out hope. J2K is my favorite fork.

dditty,

Is this what I have to do to get extensions working in TachiJ2K or TachiyomiSY?

reddit.com/…/unofficial_help_guide_for_tachiyomi_…

d3Xt3r,

Yep. I use keiyoushi and it works fine.

Anti_Face_Weapon,

The word needs to get out about this somehow

whou,

oh yeah, I heard about the already forked projects before, certainly awesome that people already have that option. I do use Aniyomi, and it’s pretty damn good.

For some reason I’ve never felt like I needed extra features that the main project didn’t have, so I’ve never looked out for forks. But looking at some of the forks right now they seem pretty good as well and do have features that would be super useful to me. Certainly will try it out.

FOSS is so amazing.

simple, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

This sucks. Tachiyomi was by far the best app for reading comics, none of the paid options come even close in terms of options or ease of use.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s not like it’ll stop working for local files.

You could still get the actual comics anywhere, convert em to .cbz, and chuck em in some folders named by series. In that sense, Tachiyomi should keep working forever.

It’s really only the streamlined online sources that’ll break over time, and no new features will get added.

Lucky for us, looks like it’ll be getting forked and live on as “Mihon”.

TWeaK,

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources? My impression was they just did the app, and you got things from elsewhere, but I’ve never used it (or even heard of it before today).

It’s also already got 3 forks, they link them on their website.

ipha,

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources?

No, tachiyomi is just a browser for other sites.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Tachiyomi is just a comic reader, but it can aggregate from A LOT of sources, both local files and websites. Each online source (mangadex, tapas) requires a plug-in to work. Those plugins need maintenance and workarounds for stuff like cloudflare blocks.

Needless to say a lot of content hosts aren’t fans of a client that pulls content without the user ever seeing an ad or something, so these plug-ins tend to break.

rwhitisissle,

There’s a number of existing forks already. Most of them for porn. For the ones that have integrated with the last Tachiyomi update that removed native extensions, what you’ll be able to do is set a repository as an upstream apk source for whatever extensions you want. There’s plenty of those already on github. You just have to look for them.

Blackmist,

Yeah, as somebody with an ever growing pile of apps that stop working every time I upgrade my phone, I wouldn’t count on it.

If somebody doesn’t take it over and rebuild for every pointless Android change, it will eventually disappear.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I still have apps that I made to work on android 6, working just fine. Android has extremely good backwards compatibility.

The reason tachiyomis plug-ins would stop working is that the sources they pull content from keep blocking them, and there wouldn’t be anyone to come up with new workarounds.

Android itself hasn’t changed that much unless your app is overly reliant on old app permissions. Which tachiyomi isn’t.

LadyAutumn, to piracy in Extensions list removed for Tachiyomi

Unofficial extensions are still being updated. I’ve got working bato and everything. Haven’t run into issues so far. I’m not sure how this korean company got to them or why, since they’re not even hosting the content. But either way, things should be good for now.

Tachiyomi is too good to fail. It’s the best manga reader that has ever existed. It’s open source. If they need to offload extension support onto less organized entities, then so be it. The community isn’t going to disappear.

mnemonicmonkeys, (edited )

I’m not sure how this korean company got to them or why

They just sent a hail mary DCMA directly to the devs that’s not even enforceable. If it was, they’d have to go through GitHub with a DCMA request. But the Tachiyomi devs folded for no reason

Coasting0942,

But the Tachiyomi devs folded for no reason

Easy to say when you’re not the one getting the notice/threat

mnemonicmonkeys,

A notice that couldn’t be enforced. They could have told Kakao to file their DCMA through GitHub like they’re supposed to do. If the DCMA is filed outside that it’s not enforceable

Coasting0942,

Again. It’s easy for you to say when you’re not the one getting the notice.

Maybe the Dev has too much crap to deal with in their life. They are making software for free already. And now they’re expected to add another mental task?

Maybe they just hate confrontation. Or have heard stories of what corporations can do to those that piss then off. Heard lots of stories of the little guy beating a corporation lately?

ardi60, to piracy in Extensions list removed for Tachiyomi
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

github.com/keiyoushi/extensions I found this external repo. you guys might take a look

ReluctantZen, (edited )

Do you need to reinstall the extensions for this? I can’t get it to work with TachiyomiSY. Edit: maybe some extra context: TachiyomiSY is still attempting to fetch stuff from the removed repo, even though I’ve added the new one, so it still fails.

abs_mess,

Fresh install, it works! Extensions are required to be “trusted” but other than that everything seems to be in the same place.

ardi60,
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

Sadly, some of mangas are missing. So, I need to redownload the mangas again

ardi60, (edited ) to piracy in Extensions list removed for Tachiyomi
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

I found another spare for repo. if the current alt goes down github.com/ThePBone/tachiyomi-extensions-revived

CerineArkweaver,

Used this for Batoto and Mangadex. Works for TachiyomiSY

throws_lemy, (edited )
@throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

Hey, really glad to see you coming here!

I found another spare for repo. if the current alt goes down github.com/ThePBone/tachiyomi-extensions-revived

I use batoto extension (revived) from this repo, it works on TachiyomiJ2K. Not sure with the latest Tachiyomi

jacktherippah, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

Their reasoning is sound. They don’t want to defend against a corporation for a hobbyist project. There’s already going to be a fork so that’s good I guess. I just hope jay forks it for a J2K version.

southsamurai, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Maybe one of the forks will take off

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Likely. If not, there’s always Dantotsu.

Aquilae, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi
@Aquilae@hexbear.net avatar

I hate capitalism I hate capitalism

CJOtheReal,

This isn’t about capitalism, this is about legal systems sucking ass.

mnemonicmonkeys, (edited )

Tbf, what Kakao is doing isn’t legal

CJOtheReal,

Yes, but to prove that you’d have to go to court and that requires lawyers wich can’t work for free.

I say lets DDOS their website and services until they fuck off. They are a illigal monopoly as well in Korea but their korrupt system doesn’t do shit against them.

brax,

No no, throw drugs in their HQ then go after them. The precedent set is that the container is the problem, not the source of the illegal things itself.

CJOtheReal,

If we throw stuff in there it should be 20 tonns of Cocaine and that in every corner of their offices so that the entire company goes down.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

DDOS is terribly illegal.
Thabk you but no.
You can do it if you want to. I wouldnt advocate the action though.

CJOtheReal,

DDOS is terribly illegal

Bro… We are in a piracy community… And shit is only illegal if you get caught in general.

ladfrombrad,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

DDOS is terribly illegal

Bro… We are in a piracy community… And shit is only illegal if you get caught in general.

Sailors do not enable abuse nor condone getting yourself locked up.

That’s stupid 101.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Copyright vs federal jurisdiction.

I wonder for what you get a slap on the wrist and a fine and for what prison/jail time when participating.

What we do here with piracy for mostly personal gain is petty at best. That comment excludes the uploaders of such content.

CJOtheReal,

Its not illegal if you don’t get caught… And especially not when you aren’t in Korea where the “crime” is committed…

brax, to piracy in It's joever | Tachiyomi

The Streisand effect of this all is great. I can’t be the only one that found out about this app (and the repos) because of the stupid law suit right? Amazing that they went after the container instead of the contents.

Can’t wait for Glad or Rubbermaid to be C&D’d when the cops find contraband in one of their bags/bins.

Armand1, to opensource in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

As someone who has used this app for at least 6 years, I am very sad to see this happen.

I’m surprised they weren’t able to get away with it after the change in extensions a couple versions ago. By not shipping extensions that have copyrighted content that should have been enough, similar to how emulators, services like Plex and torrenting applications survive.

It’s effectively just a comic / manga reader that can be used for piracy when the right extensions are added.

Apparently that wasn’t enough, and I can’t blame open source devs for not wanting to start a legal battle with a profit-earning company.

For now, the app does allow you to add external repository’s (list of extensions for various sources) that are still being updated, and I believe there are at least a few forks of the project that will survive for now.

All I can say is great work to the dev team for sticking with us until now and I wish you luck in your future ventures.

American_Jesus, (edited ) to piracy in Extensions list removed for Tachiyomi

Tachiyomi Alternatives:

PS: I’ll update the list if find more.

efreak, (edited )

The official forks:

  • TachiyomiSY
  • TachiyomiJ2K
  • TachiyomiAZ

Other forks:

  • Dantotsu adds support for anime and novels as well.
  • Aniyomi adds support for video as well
  • Animiru is Aniyomi without the manga parts (ie only for video)
  • Yokai no idea what’s changed here besides name/icon…
American_Jesus,

Thanks, i’ll add to the post and test them lemm.ee/post/20876051

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