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NutWrench, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.
@NutWrench@lemmy.ml avatar

This is what “AI training” looks like, folks. The companies developing AI constantly tells us how awesome it is, but it still needs the help of humans to recognize basic sh*t like cars, buses, crosswalks and traffic lights. They didn’t choose those images by accident.

doublepepperoni,
@doublepepperoni@hexbear.net avatar

I keep expecting blurry images of protestors or human shaped blobs huddling behind cover with some kind of crosshair over them

PLEASE CLICK ON ALL SQUARES WITH ENEMY COMBATANTS TARGETS PERSONS

SpaceScotsman, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.

Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

Flabbergassed,
@Flabbergassed@artemis.camp avatar

I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I've forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.

Confused_Emus,

Do you usually do them quickly? Try slowing down next time, and you’ll get through with less captchas.

kibiz0r,

If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

They kinda do. This is the way the “free” model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.

TranscendentalEmpire,

Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.

Now that they’ve run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.

Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.

intensely_human,

That might have been the point. It’s also saved me countless hours of my life being able to navigate anywhere at any time with step by step instructions on how to get there.

There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far

TranscendentalEmpire,

There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far

Right… But people don’t get upset about monopolies because they don’t create value. They get upset because they eliminate competition and choice.

Kite, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein

My cow kitty never shuts up, I don’t even need a spell to know what he’s saying! He says " food food food food FOOD pet my belly food fooooood"

moody, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein

The cat says: meow!

ElmarsonTheThird, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.
@ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de avatar

Same shit with bikes. Is the rider part of the bike or not?

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Well the seat post is under their butt.

knatschus,

Consindering that we’re training Ai to be safe on the roads i would say the rider is the most vital part.

Rekonok, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.
@Rekonok@sh.itjust.works avatar

I cry, rage, yell then I refresh the the captcha

ghoscht, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.

What I hate so much more are the OpenAI captchas. Especially the goddamn rat ones

crandlecan,

Huh?

VaultBoyNewVegas,

It’s the text ones for me. I struggle to read the font on some of them so I can’t tell the difference between a capital letter or a lowercase one so now if they’ve the text reader for blind/partially sighted people I’ll use that.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I had much (not) fun with the ones on the Sony/Playstation page.
Somezhibg with alligning a 3d object with a specified direction.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I believe you haven’t met the Yandex Captcha. I don’t know anyone who passed that.

lowleveldata, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.

That’s the frame of the lights so no

Teapot,

🤓

NigelFrobisher, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein

Mine won’t shut up, even when we are sleeping.

nottheengineer, to memes in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.

I still don’t know whether you’re supposed to hit those and I also don’t know if it’s normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

onion,

I think you should do what the majority of people would do

nottheengineer,

This has been memed about forever, no one knows what the majority does.

veroxii,

Most people do.

Pietson,

AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

That was in text captcha days

neoman4426,

I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there

nottheengineer,

It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

It probably checks your answer against the current model’s best guess and if it’s close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.

Takios,

Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

I do that and as long as it’s not too outlandish it lets me through.

boredtortoise,

Isn’t it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won’t notice before clicking continue, thus failing

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

Johanno,

Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.

It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.

Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.

jmcs,

It doesn’t really matter, they don’t expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

mnglw,

I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha’s

it’s infuriating

DigitalPaperTrail,

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  • Cruxifux,

    Nah, you’re a robot man. We caught you.

    Flabbergassed,
    @Flabbergassed@artemis.camp avatar

    I'm Kilroy.

    Tetsuo,

    A bot trying to solve the captcha would be very fast so it makes sense that they block fast solvers.

    anyhow2503,

    A bot would be exactly as fast as possible, while staying below the detection threshold.

    nottheengineer,

    These things feel like they are made by microsoft. You click somewhere, wait 3-10 seconds and then you can click again.

    Droechai,

    Just use a click delay program between press and input, maybe with a physical on/off switch on a dedicated keyboard next to the mouse together with other necessary keys (like the one button switch between EN and SE layouts or the Memory Cache Dump Key)

    jmcs,

    That’s what a bot would say /s

    But you’re right, the UX sucks, and there are other ways to detect and limit bots that don’t impact legitimate users as much - but Google needs to train their AI, and developers need to cargo cult stuff.

    DessertStorms,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human

    which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it'll let me through.. I can't be that bad at doing them lol

    Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.

    Inductor,

    Have you tried using an automatic CAPTCHA solver (e.g. Buster)?

    DessertStorms,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    No, will give it a look, thanks

    Pika,

    I will have to look into this as well

    null,

    Yup, as soon as I moved to a privacy-focused browser, pi-hole, and VPN, I started getting a ton more captchas and they had many more in a row.

    I consider it a badge of honor.

    veroxii,

    I also started getting way more once I moved from chrome to Firefox.

    Dave, to comicstrips in "Wet" by Chris Hallbeck
    @Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

    Do they carry the umbrella around full of water dripping down when it’s sunny?

    Papanca, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein

    The three phrases of kitties:

    Let me in!

    Let me out!

    Give me fresh food, even though my bowl is still pretty full

    query,

    If you can, should give them fresh food each time and not leave it out to become stale. Have meal times and meal sizes (or cover it up).

    Papanca,

    I don’t know why you got downvoted, i completely agree with you. They really love fresh food and fresh water (those water fountains), it’s just their nature. It’s not that they are spoiled. Dogs for instance will also eat from a carcass, but wild felines only eat fresh

    FuglyDuck,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Also, the bonus phrase:

    “Schritches…… enough scritches.”

    Papanca,

    They don’t need to say that; they will just sit on your papers or laptop, or stand right in front of the tv

    FuglyDuck,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s more of a non verbal thing.

    When they want scritches, they’ll let you know

    And when they’re done…. They’ll let you know that, too….

    LemmyNameMyself, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein
    @LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world avatar
    xusontha, to comicstrips in "Spell and Speak" by Mr.Lovenstein

    They always could talk, but they just didn’t feel like it

    Luisp,

    In fact the miau sound you are used to is produced exclusively in presence of humans, normally they make other sounds

    Papanca,

    Yes, there were studies where it was proven that these sounds are actively being reinforced by human interactions; cats learn that this works

    KpntAutismus,

    can confirm. i basically meow at my cat whenever he looks like he wants something. based on how he reacts i can figure out if he’s hungry, needs attention or is just doing his hourly sweep of the house.

    frezik, to comicstrips in "This Show" by Chris Hallbeck

    My wife and I hatewatch house hunting shows when we’re stuck up in a hotel sometimes.

    What sometimes happen is something you can’t hatewatch. One episode of “Love it or List It” had a black family where mom had to do clear the kitchen table to do the office work she brought home, the older teenage boy had a bed too short and his legs hung over the edge, and grandma moved in and had to sleep in the same bed as the younger daughter. I can’t hatewatch that. This family is legit struggling with their current housing arrangements and needs a fix.

    Then the next thing comes on, and it’s a white family where their biggest problems are that the house is too far from the golf course and the kids don’t all have their own bathrooms. Thank you, hatewatching gods, I can work with this!

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