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EmpathicVagrant, to memes in Productivity memes might be a killer for your actual productivity, but they really help to speed your day up.

So about 3 hours left? Sweet!

frauddogg, to memes in The only thing worse than this is when your boss says it on a Friday afternoon.
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“You have two minutes and 30 seconds until you owe me overtime.”

Steamymoomilk, to memes in The only thing worse than this is when your boss says it on a Friday afternoon.

POV your soul has left your body.

Rodeo, to memes in Productivity memes might be a killer for your actual productivity, but they really help to speed your day up.

Must be nice to have a job where you don’t have to do anything.

CADmonkey,

It starts to suck pretty fast.

nueonetwo,

It was nice at first, now it’s really boring.

Sagar, to memes in Funtastic 😅

WSL, the best example of how absolute freedom will be misused!

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Why? What’s wrong with WSL?

jackoneill,

It’s backwards lol. We want windows stuff to work in Linux so we have a stable system that can do everything we need, instead they gave us Linux on top the unstable pile of shit we all hate

dansity,

Its for development and testing not to play around.

netchami,

Nah, that’s what actual Linux distributions are for. Linux runs on almost every server and powers nearly the entire internet while Windows is used to play fancy video games.

dansity,

I’m not sure is you are joking or serious.

irmoz,

It is a verifiable fact. The vast majority of web services run on Linux.

96.3% of the top million web servers run Linux.

Rambi,

I feel like that should be incredibly obvious, why would you want to run Windows on a web server outside of incredibly niche situations.

dansity,

I was doubting the fact that the only function of windows is to run video games. Literally every business in the world runs on windows PCs

irmoz,

Because it’s traditional. Businesses adopted computing in the 80s, and Linux wasn’t around then. Macs and Windows were. It would just be too costly (in time obviously, not cash) for huge businesses to switch at this point.

vox,
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  • Bene7rddso,

    In the 80s? No. There was Unix, and it was expensive

    irmoz,

    Google things before getting them wrong

    EncryptKeeper,

    Linux runs on the majority of webservers. If you were to look at the usage breakdown of servers in general, Windows would probably be more common, by what I’d imagine would be a wide margin. I’ve never in my life seen an enterprise run anything internally besides Windows Server with Active Directory and a majority fleet of Windows workstations. There isn’t really a viable alternative.

    Linux is definitely a go-to as a web server, load balancer, or some other appliance, but behind that a lot of the time are a bunch of Windows Servers as well.

    synae,
    @synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Development and testing, aka playing around

    dooger_chogany,

    I think you perchance have a very poor understanding of OSes, their history, the purpose of Windows and “Linux”, and the purpose WSL serves.

    MonkderZweite,

    and the purpose WSL serves.

    Keeping developers on Windows. Otherwise, MS would have invested in Wine or created their own Windows thing on Linux.

    doomkernel, to memes in Funtastic 😅

    I still believe the name should be Linux Subsystem for Windows. The other way around sound like Proton

    netchami,

    Microsoft has always been terrible at naming things. And at developing things. And at literally everything.

    Sonotsugipaa,
    @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    And themselves, generally

    netchami,

    As well as their founder.

    grue,

    I’d say the one thing they’ve been decent at is input devices, oddly enough. I was pretty happy with my SideWinder 3D Pro joystick and my Intellimouse Explorer back in the day. I also still (very occasionally) use an Xbox 360 controller attached to my Linux PC.

    No credit for Xboxes themselves, let alone other hardware like Zunes and Windows Phones and shit, of course.

    tryagain,

    Shout out to the Sculpt ergonomic keyboard too, my go-to for many years.

    ILikeBoobies,

    Windows phone was their best product

    Rambi,

    I love Xbox 360 controllers, I always use the wired ones so you don’t have to fuck about with batteries which I always find annoying to deal with, you also don’t need the receiver thing either. And latency is lower.

    I find 360 controllers seem to be the most comfortable to hold in my hands, as well as being pretty well built. You can get them used on eBay for like £15/$20

    themoonisacheese,
    @themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

    They were historically good at input devices because they were the only ones with enough weight to get manufacturers to stop fucking around and use xinput, which guaranteed their hegemony with normal controllers for a long time. 5-10 years ago, it was basically impossible to get a normal controller (ie Xbox or ps layout) that was not approved by Microsoft, working in all games.

    grue,

    LOL, my Microsoft joystick is so old it connected to the gameport on my sound card – I’m pretty sure XInput didn’t even exist yet.

    bobs_monkey,

    I think I had the same thing that we played Duke Nukem 3D with

    seitanic,
    @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Except VSCode for some reason. VSCode is great.

    257m,

    Say that to the face of a hardcore Vim or Emacs user and enjoy the essay.

    seitanic,
    @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I like vim, but I’m not a power user, so trying to code with it sounds…painful. I’ve never cracked emacs, although it has piqued my curiosity.

    Nahdahar,

    Learning vim motions in VSCode with the vim plugin was the best decision I made this year. Made programming even more fun and after a year of learning I actually feel that I finally reached a point where I’m a lot more productive. I set up neovim too, but I’m missing some things to fully switch from VSCode and I have to research my options (git integration and debugging are my pet peeves), which I haven’t had time for lately.

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    mostly because all the good stuff in vscode comes from open source community

    phorq,

    That would require Microsoft admitting they come in second.

    casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer,

    The one Microshaft fanboi downvoting you for speaking facts 🤣

    gkd,
    @gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

    There is always one…

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Four

    phobiac,
    @phobiac@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t cite a source but I read once that the lawyers got involved and said Microsoft/Windows/some other term they have legal control of had to be the first word.

    SexualPolytope,
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Lawyers, they fuck up everything.

    tastysnacks,

    What’s the difference between a lawyer and a hooker? A hooker stops fucking you when you’re dead.

    bobs_monkey,

    I think that’s just branding 101

    EddoWagt,

    Then why not call it “Windows subsystem of Linux”? Changes the meaning of the sentence completely

    MostlyHarmless,

    Because it isn’t a subsystem of Linux. It is a subsystem in Windows that allows Linux to run as part of Windows.

    The windows subsystem gives Linux access to the Windows system.

    maeries,

    It actually makes sense. It’s a subsystem in Windows (therefore a windows subsystem) that makes Linux work

    thestereobus,
    @thestereobus@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s also usually lawyers that create these names. I worked on databases for IBM Cloud and they were all called “IBM Cloud Databases for Elasticsearch” and what have you. Despite it being an offering of the database on IBM’s cloud.

    Since Elasticsearch is a brand name, the “host” corporation corporation has to present it as a product “for” the brand name rather than as the brand name itself to avoid implying that they are acting AS Linux or Elasticsearch or whoever is the third party.

    ReakDuck,

    From where do you think comes the Balmer peak?

    xkcd.com/323/

    intrepid,

    In what world would Microsoft allow the Linux name to appear before Windows? If MS were a person, they would be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    MostlyHarmless,

    It is a subsystem of Windows that Linux runs in. It’s not a subsystem of Linux.

    Windows is the system. It’s the host operating system. It created a subsystem specifically for running a child operating system. In this case, Linux

    hunter2, to memes in Funtastic 😅

    I once tried wsl on my work machine instead of having to deal with cygwin or msys2. Unfortunately the virus scanner didn’t like that a whole lot and my account was locked. Man do I love enterprise problems on top of normal problems.

    bleistift2,

    That must have been an incredibly shitty virus scanner if it complains about Windows features.

    520,

    Enterprise security software tends to err much more on the side of caution.

    There are plenty of Windows features who's usage will flag because they are also favourite tactics by actual threats, such as Powershell one liners. Bonus if it's in Base64.

    Zeth0s,

    Powershell one liners are uglier than the worst winner of Obfuscated Perl Contest. Super cringe…

    520,

    That I would agree... But they're excellent for getting fileless reverse shell on a victim's machine

    EatYouWell,

    Probably McAfee or Norton, which are pretty much viruses themselves.

    netchami,

    Windows is the real virus.

    hunter2,

    Agreed. It was Sophos.

    candyman337,

    My company’s shut off my Internet for using visual studio. Sometimes they’re just too aggressive

    bleistift2,

    If you need visual studio for work, you’ll also need the internet. So you’re chilling out the rest of the day? Congrats.

    candyman337,

    Lmao no I had to use my phone to reach out to the helpdesk

    agressivelyPassive,

    The VPN client I’m using doesn’t play properly with wsl, so I can often randomly not use internal services, because there’s no route available. Unfortunately, that includes our k8s cluster, so I have to use a different kubectl outside of wsl to work with it. Awesome.

    candyman337,

    I feel like your company could get you another vpn right? Like that seems really annoying to have to deal with

    agressivelyPassive,

    Sure, they could. But they won’t. Simply because those who could enact the changes are working from the offices, and those don’t have these problems.

    candyman337,

    That’s a real bummer, always sucks when higher ups just don’t get why something is a problem

    MasterNerd, to memes in Productivity memes might be a killer for your actual productivity, but they really help to speed your day up.
    @MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

    POV: your coworker keeps on looking at memes instead of contributing to the project, knowing full well he’ll get all the credit because he’s friends with the boss.

    TheCheddarCheese, to memes in Funtastic 😅
    @TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

    not trying to be the one person who pushes linux down everyones throats, but in all of my time using it i had to restart to update only once

    seitanic,
    @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Ever since I switched to Arch, I’ve never had to restart to update. I always restart anyway, because I want the update to apply to my current session, but I don’t have to.

    Bene7rddso,

    lol Arch was the distro where I had to reboot the most after updates because the new kernel modules wouldn’t load with the old kernel

    seitanic,
    @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    To be fair, I’ve never used pure Arch. The Arch derivatives I’ve used are Manjaro and Garuda.

    ShouldIHaveFun,

    You do have to reboot to use your new kernel after an update. But it’s just a normal reboot, not the whole blocking installation process like in Windows.

    drcobaltjedi,

    Aren’t there distros that treat the kernal like anyother package and can hot swap it?

    usernamesAreTricky,

    Not quite like that but there is a thing called live patching that some distros offer. It’s mainly to used fix security issues rather than a typical update

    Ubuntu livepatching and kpatch are some different tools out there for that if you want to look into it

    black0ut,
    @black0ut@pawb.social avatar

    you can’t really hot swap the kernel, because all of the system runs on it.

    you’d need to stop the system (you can save its state and recover where you left), reboot to load the new kernel and let it take control.

    however, there are some distros and programs that allow you to hot swap certain parts of the kernel (mainly drivers) without rebooting. Note that, even though the system doesn’t reboot, most packages still need to be restarted for them to pick up the new driver.

    Quadrexium,

    And a Linux reboot takes like 40s at most and everything works. Where in Windows it takes like 2m to be able to log in and a good 5-10m for all the apps to start working at normal speed

    SexualPolytope,
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Not always, but mostly yeah. Especially for home users, it’s not worth the hassle.

    Amends1782,

    Same thing canonical pushes with Ubuntu pro right?

    SexualPolytope,
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    kpatch is what RHEL uses. The Ubuntu one is called livepatch. IIRC, it’s not open source.

    llama, to memes in Back home
    @llama@midwest.social avatar

    It’s like the movie Sliding Doors, except it’s a pocket door to your parents guest bathroom.

    PerogiBoi, to memes in Funtastic 😅
    @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

    WSL allowed my stupid Windows desktop to run Pihole. Very cool? Meh.

    Not as cool as running Pihole on an old android phone. Somehow that’s much more stable.

    netchami,

    Everything that doesn’t involve Microsoft is more stable.

    PerogiBoi,
    @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

    Meh, Microsoft has put out some shitty fucking software but Windows XP, 7, and 10 were tight.

    The only time any of these OS’s fell apart was when I downloaded viruses from sketchy sites.

    casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer,

    The security on XP was comically bad. When people say “physical access is full access,” they aren’t even considering XP despite it being the textbook definition to the phrase. You were able to access the command line without even logging in.

    KSPAtlas,
    @KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Yeah, i found an old laptop running xp that had a password i didn’t know, was ridiculously easy to reset it, just reboot to safe mode and change it there

    bobs_monkey,

    Insert BIOS password. Not foolproof, but helpful for detering people that weren’t going to open the box

    casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer,

    I’m talking without the need to reboot or enter BIOS

    bobs_monkey,

    Oh I know, I’m just saying a BIOS password helped mitigate the safe mode security flaw

    bobs_monkey,

    For the record, hot single milfs in your area are typically not found by “clicking here.”

    PerogiBoi,
    @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

    Ya only know if ya try

    bobs_monkey,

    That’s how you get a different kind of virus lol

    PerogiBoi,
    @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

    Thank god for amoxicillin.

    stjobe,

    BizTalk was (is?) a solid and also quite impressive product. That said, I’m happy I haven’t had to work with it for years 🙂

    netchami,

    I will never understand why people liked Windows XP, I’d rather use Gentoo Linux from 2002 compiled from a stage 1 tarball than this steaming pile of shit. Windows 7 was solid, but 10 was (again) the biggest piece of garbage. Horrible UWP UI, Cortana, the garbage Windows Store, the Windows Phone integration, the useless Xbox app, the shitty version of OneNote, crappy MS Edge, Candy Crush ads in the fucking start menu and tons of data collection. Oh yeah, what a great operating system!

    ILikeBoobies,

    Preinstalled

    Same as every other version

    grue,

    I will never understand why people liked Windows XP, I’d rather use Gentoo Linux from 2002 compiled from a stage 1 tarball than this steaming pile of shit.

    It was necessary for games. (Source: I dual-booted Windows XP and Gentoo Linux in 2002.)

    merc,

    Games is one of the blockers for me. I’m really hoping the Steam Deck changes things so that Windows is no longer needed at all.

    Right now we’re just on stage 1, where almost everything that runs on the Steam Deck needs a compatibility layer. I’m hoping that the next step is developers building for Linux as well as Windows to run better on the Steam Deck, which would mean zero performance loss playing on a Linux desktop.

    grue,

    Dude, I said I needed Windows for games in 2002. I’ve been Linux-only for gaming for the better part of a decade now.

    As long as you’re okay with skipping the few games from asshole developers who deliberately make it difficult, the transition you’re hoping for already happened.

    Redscare867,

    I don’t game much, but with the few games I do occasionally play I’ve had really good success at getting them to run on Linux under proton. It’s way better than it was even a few years ago.

    merc,

    It’s the “under proton” I don’t like. It means the performance is never going to be 100% of what you get if you run it natively. Maybe in 90% of games the performance is close enough that I’d never notice, but I play enough games that for now it makes sense to have a dedicated game OS, which is all Windows is these days to me.

    CancerMancer,

    You’re underestimating the performance gains from getting rid of the Windows overhead though. Somethings run so much better that it is kind of absurd.

    helios,
    @helios@social.ggbox.fr avatar

    Honestly, I don’t see a difference performance wise. There was even this game I’ve played called Gunfire reborn that was running noticably better under proton compared to win10 on my system. The actual problem that’s still ongoing is games with anti-cheat though. Apex Legends enabled EAC on linux and it works like a charm, but most game devs don’t care.

    30p87,

    One would think this only involves their operating spyware system, but all of their “professional” software is just as bad too!

    netchami,

    Nothing about Microsoft is professional.

    MonkderZweite,

    Well yeah, stable running on unstable is still unstable. Cant’t build a fundament on sand. etc.

    Rodeo,

    I think the word you’re looking for is “foundation” lol

    fundament
    noun

    1. The buttocks.
    2. The anus.
    3. The natural features of a land surface unaltered by humans.

    In practice the word is almost always used in the adjective form “fundamental”, which actually refers more to a foundation than a fundament.

    z500,
    @z500@lemmy.world avatar

    I thought it was pretty cool I could migrate my RISC CPU design from Logisim to Verilator, and even throw in some GTK so I could display some video, and have it all just work.

    ComradeWeebelo, to memes in Back home

    Here I am wishing I still lived with my mother. I’ve had nothing but problems since moving out on my own. Hopefully things get better some day.

    NoSpiritAnimal, to memes in The only thing worse than this is when your boss says it on a Friday afternoon.
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    “Email me chief, I’ll take a look when I get a chance”

    The chance is always Monday morning.

    sounddrill, to memes in The only thing worse than this is when your boss says it on a Friday afternoon.

    Was there some thing I could have…

    SloppyPuppy, to memes in The only thing worse than this is when your boss says it on a Friday afternoon.

    Oh, sorry, I have to

    1. take the kid out of kindergarten
    2. Mom to a checkup
    3. Meet a friend at the (insert some lie)
    4. Take my cousin to the airport
    5. Buy some shit from the pharmacy
    6. Catch the last bus
    7. Go smoke some weed at home
    reployer,

    got it: “I have to smoke some weed with my mom at the kindergarten”

    SloppyPuppy,

    Yep this is what I gotta do. See you next week. Ok byeee

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