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cosmonought, to privacyguides in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies

Why am I not surprised that it is so many…

It’s absolutely ridiculous how invasive the web has become.

Sickening.

nul, to privacyguides in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies

And there’s 3 billion Facebook users which means there must be trillions of companies spying on them! Crazy when you don’t think about it.

jadelord, (edited )

That math does not check out. There are only 8.1 billion humans alive. How can there be trillions of companies?

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Its a joke

THE_ANON,

It is the same thousands of company spying on evereyone and not every individual having their own 1000 company that spying on them.

noorbeast, to privacyguides in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies

You are the product!

Blaze, to privacyguides in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

If you ever try to get someone you know off that platform

ardi60,
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

It is quite hard if you rely on Facebook for marketing. Especially Facebook marketplace is good

HowMany, to privacy in There’s a Multibillion-Dollar Market for Your Phone’s Location Data – The Markup

What’s my cut?

FriendBesto, (edited )

Being the product.

Fleppensteijn, to privacy in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies – The Markup
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

Years ago, Facebook kept nagging about privacy settings and almost pushed users to turn off all tracking etc.

Now, my Facebook always says there is no recent activity, downloading all data from FB shows they seem to have nothing on me. So are they just lying about what they share with who?

hangukdise,

Yeeeesssss

ReversalHatchery,

This is just my opinion, but why would they tell you the truth? It’s not like you can find out they are lying.

notannpc, to privacy in There’s a Multibillion-Dollar Market for Your Phone’s Location Data – The Markup

Shit, that’s easy. It’s in my pocket. They can have that nugget of info for free.

optissima,

They’re taking it all for free

Kiwi_Girl,
@Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Left or right?

notannpc,

Now that’ll cost ya

doctortofu, to privacy in There’s a Multibillion-Dollar Market for Your Phone’s Location Data – The Markup
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

And that’s why location is always off on all my devices, and gets turned on only when I want to search for something nearby or use navigation. Then it goes back off until the next time I need it.

floofloof, (edited )

Your location can still be triangulated from cell towers. But maybe fewer companies have access to that info.

cmeerw,

Also the location of known Wifi networks.

Land_Strider, to privacy in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies – The Markup

While I don’t touch anything Meta (formerly Facebook) at any time, what is the explicit route of data gathering here?

From what I understand, these companies willingly give user data to Facebook, which then utilizes the data to: Use the provided information to match your Facebook user id with the other companies’ user id, so it can understand when you made an activity in the other companies’ sites, games etc. and show you stuff (ads only if you are naive, or propaganda through engineered post and ad visibility jf know at least about Cambridge Analytica) about it when you are in Facebook.

Is this the route user data follows and is utilized? If so, shouldn’t these mentioned other companies including Facebook’s and whatnot’s 3rd party tracking pixels n their own domains, and also sharing your data to themselves directly be the focus of privacy concerns as they “leak” your user data? Doesn’t the most of the blame fall on these other companies, or does the implied blame here that user data transfer is mutual and Facebook forwards these user data from company A to company B in the list, as well?

KarnaSubarna,
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s a sell and not leak of data. It’s actually called Server to Server (S2S) tracking.

tinuiti.com/blog/…/server-to-server-tracking/

revealbot.com/blog/facebook-conversions-api/

MNByChoice, to privacy in There’s a Multibillion-Dollar Market for Your Phone’s Location Data – The Markup

Always seemed the best way to stop this was to make someone important’s data public.

interdimensionalmeme,

Yes, just look what happen to tge free speech absolutist was refused buying silence from assassination coordinates guy.

Dollarhide, to privacy in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies – The Markup

They all do it.

I haven’t played or even thought about a Halo game in probably 20 years. All of a sudden in the last week I bought the Master Chief collection on Steam and have been reliving my childhood a bit. Suddenly, my Reddit notifications are full of random posts from r/Halo - a sub I’m not even subscribed to.

merde, to privacy in There’s a Multibillion-Dollar Market for Your Phone’s Location Data – The Markup

how to talk about this with the “I’ve got nothing to hide” crowd 🤷

interdimensionalmeme,

Just frame them for murder

Murdoc,

I’ve heard others suggest something like “then you won’t mind giving me your SSN/SIN, bank account details and PIN, all your e-mail and computer passwords…” and whatever else you can think of, and if they are still ok with that, then add “and I’ll post them on the internet.” I don’t know how well it works though as I haven’t had the chance to try it.
People who say this are assuming benign, rational actors, but there are plenty of predatory and irrational ones that will misuse your data. So a list of examples, general and specific, may help there.
Hmm, could we as a community compile such a list for people to use as a kit (assuming it hasn’t been done already)? Then when people get the opportunity to use it, they could provide feedback that can be used to improve the kit. E.g., which examples work best, which don’t, presentation methods, etc. Does this sound like something people would want, and/or want to contribute to? I know that I’d find it handy.

KarnaSubarna, (edited )
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

This is how I explained it to one of my friends who is/was definitely a member of “I’ve got nothing to hide” club -

  • Suppose you are in a pay-to-use toilet minding your own Business.
  • That pay-to-use toilet is managed by a public/private entity called ToiletBook.
  • Suddenly you notice a (hidden) camera in the room.
  • When confronted, the owner confirms the only reason they took your picture to suggest you the perfect underwear based on your size. And, there is a legal guarantee that picture/data will never be used for any other purpose and only be processed by machine.
  • Will you still go to such toilet?

BTW, that friend stopped talking to me afterward; not sure why 🤔 (Edit: I should stop giving shitty examples to anyone, as it seems ) 🤐

Lemmyvisitor,

they left to patent ToiletBook

KarnaSubarna,
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

😂

Sir_Kevin, to privacy in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies – The Markup
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

20 years ago there would have been an outrage. Today, people are fine with it. I don’t understand that shit. Yet those same people were quick to jump on byte dance, because china.

There should be rules and regulations across the board, un- influenced by bribes lobbying.

noodlejetski, (edited ) to privacy in Each Facebook User is Monitored by Thousands of Companies – The Markup

inb4 “HOw Is tHiS nEWS”

the more it’s being talked about, the more difficult it will be for people to ignore.

Zerush, to privacy in Without a Trace: How to Keep Your Phone Off the Grid
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

The only way that a Phone don’t spy on you is turning it off

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