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Valmond, in Yeah, but...

Remember how I played Bounty Bob without knowing that if you jumped straight up, ju could start a side-jump any time you were in the air (by wiggling left or right), making livel 23 finishable…

That one tile you had to walk on, I spent so much time trying to jump in the craziest patterns to get to it with no success of course 😅

BruceTwarzen,

I played probably around 100 hours of "a boy and his blob" on the gameboy. Never finished it, never understood it, couldn't read english (not that it would've helped but i didn't know) never even finished the first level if it even has levels.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It has the city and the planet of Blobalonia. That was a hard game even if you knew what the heck you were supposed to do to advance.

Slow, in Truly golden moment

There is chocolate in similar packaging

TokenBoomer, in Yum!

You literally can’t use the internet without accepting to be tracked. Dystopian.

AceSLS, (edited )

uBlock Origin, JShelter and LibreWolf disagree.

Additionally one could improve that further by using a VPN

If you wanna be extreme you could also just use the Tor Browser

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Except sites deliberately break themselves if they can’t harvest your data. You can’t even browse reddit on Tor anymore.

Even merely using Fennec on my phone, I encounter shopping sites where I actually plan to spend money refuse to work because they can’t recognize “my device.” Or they refuse to sell me products where I live if I’m using a VPN. Creepy-ass behavior.

I suppose the only way out is through, and we should simply refuse to use sites that are designed in such a way, but it feels like a losing battle.

explodicle,

We’re doing our part! The fediverse needs good posts like yours to draw in new users.

milkytoast,
@milkytoast@kbin.social avatar

lol advance auto parts (one of the three major auto parts stores in the us) won't let u use their site with a VPN. so I just use the other two lol. like I can understand a government website blocking VPN traffic. but auto parts store?

LinkOpensChest_wav,

What do you consider the other two big ones? Auto Zone and NAPA?

Just curious because there are so many auto parts stores where I live

milkytoast,
@milkytoast@kbin.social avatar

auto one and O'Reilly

forgot that Napa even exits lol

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I forgot about O’Reilly!

rostby,

O o o o’reillyyyyyyyyyyyyy

LinkOpensChest_wav,

How could I forget this jingle

anonymoose,
@anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

Trying out Librewolf, I realized just how many sites (including Reddit!) use tricks like canvas fingerprinting to identify me up to 99% uniqueness. And here I thought just a VPN, uBO and no cookies would be enough!

AceSLS, (edited )

There’s so many more tricks to identify you, check out browserleaks.com

It’s honestly scary how easy it is to fingerprint you. I’m using LibreWolf (PC) and Firefox Beta with Resist Fingerprinting and Strict Tracking Prevention turned on (Android) with uBlock Origin in Medium Mode, JShelter in Strict Mode and LocalCDN. That prevents much of it but sadly not everything

Edit: Didn’t click your link, sorry for recommending browserleaks “twice”. My Canvas Fingerprint is 100% unique, although it changes each time I refresh (thanks to JShelter iirc). You can also simply disable WebGL (I think LibreWolf does this by default)

anonymoose,
@anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s honestly scary how easy it is to fingerprint you

Yeah, 💯. Of course, if we resist fingerprinting too much, we make ourselves have a unique fingerprint again 😁 I assume some of the tools you’ve mentioned randomize the fingerprint instead of just hiding it?

Didn’t click your link,

Haha, no worries!

AceSLS, (edited )

I assume some of the tools you’ve mentioned randomize the fingerprint instead of just hiding it?

According to Arkenfox user.js the Canvas Fingerprint randomization is caused by Firefoxs Resist Fingerprinting

Of course, if we resist fingerprinting too much, we make ourselves have a unique fingerprint again

Yeah, that’s why Tor Browser has such strong privacy. You blend into the crowd because everyone’s resistance is the same :)

I’d also rather stand out sometimes by resisting Fingerprinting to much than always being Fingerprinted accurately

anonymoose,
@anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

According to Arkenfox user.js the Canvas Fingerprint randomization is caused by Firefoxs Resist Fingerprinting

Nice, I should make sure I have FF’s fingerprint resistance on.

Tor Browser has such strong privacy

Yeah, hopefully more and more people start putting up strong privacy walls, so there’s more of a crowd to blend with!

Octopus1348,

Reject all cookies button:

snowsuit2654,
@snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Lots of ways to track besides cookies. There are many ways you can fingerprint a user. It’s actually pretty hard to not have a unique fingerprint on the Internet.

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, the Internet was initially a military technology.

wabafee, in Be amazed by the uses of Tech...

Internet is made of tubes!

TokenBoomer, in Yeah, but...

I spent an entire summer playing Atari. An entire month beating Pac-Man. I leave my kids alone.

RaoulDook,

A big difference between then and now is the portable nature and ubiquity of the devices.

Back then you didn’t take your NES to bed and keep playing it, or play Sega on the toilet, or Atari at the dinner table.

The devices are in every space of our lives now.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The GameBoy is from 1989 and could do all of those things.

RaoulDook,

Yeah I had one and the battery life was not great, so you could not use it in all of those places unless you were rich and had an endless supply of AA batteries. I had the original B&W Gameboy and the added magnifier / light combo that took even more batteries.

It was good for a couple hours on one set of 4 AA batteries if I recall correctly. We did have rechargables back then but they were Ni-Cad and they sucked, took forever to recharge.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

You’re right that it needed a light source, but the battery life was actually pretty decent if you didn’t have cheap batteries - around 15 hours, which is a hell of a lot better than a Switch.

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe you are forgetting about the Sega Genesis Nomad and the fact that the gameboy was effectively a handheld NES?

TBF were talking about the 90s but still

RaoulDook,

Yeah I had the original B&W Gameboy and the battery life was not great, so you could not use it in all of those places unless you were rich and had an endless supply of AA batteries.

It was good for a couple hours on one set of 4 AA batteries if I recall correctly. We did have rechargables back then but they were Ni-Cad and they sucked, took forever to recharge.

teamevil,

But game boy has its own games. TurboGrafx-16 and TurboExpress (colored handheld) used the exact same games. Battery life did suck.

variants,

I think its a bit different with the internet on all devices now, games and tv and stuff like that is fine after the age of 3 or so but those micro-transaction addictive games and social media is something else you have to keep an eye on

FlyingSquid, in Boston
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This is why I miss Car Talk.

ramius345,

With Martok?

CouncilOfFriends, (edited ) in Of the tens of thousands of lies told, I wish this one was true...

FAKE NEWS!

Sad

Slow, in Yeah, but...

I played a playstation on a similar tv. No one thought about it at the time, but such a screen is not suitable for looking at at close range.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Oh I was certainly reminded to sit far away in a well lit living room. Which made it so fun when we got to play to close like in the picture

1984, in Yeah, but...
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

That was the thing about old games, they weren’t worried about being difficult sometimes. Gamers were happy to get a challenge.

Slow,

I don’t know, but perhaps in america, in addition to the original consoles from Nintendo, no-name consoles were sold?

rockerface,

In post-USSR countries, those were definitely more prevalent. I had one of the “off brand” consoles and a bunch of cartridges, some without casing, even. Also had that light gun thing that you could point at a TV screen for the duck hunt game

abfarid,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

It was a Dendy, wasn’t it?

rockerface,

Of course it was

rockerface,

The old old games - the arcade games - were made difficult on purpose to farm coins for continues, in fact. Then with video games, publishers gradually started flipping it over to encourage players to complete their games and buy new ones

520,

Kinda. Publishers often found arcade difficulty spikes useful in home console games because it would mask how little content there was. Super Mario Bros could be beaten in an hour or two by most people if the lives system didn't send you all the way back to the beginning of the game when you ran out.

teamevil,

I remember buying a book with the secrets of Super Mario Bros (and other NES) games typed backwards so you had to use a mirror to know how to warp from 1-2 to 4-2 to get to 8-1.

I doubt I’d have finished…but I’ve got a TG-16 I can’t beat anything on.

PersnickityPenguin,

I still have my Nintendo power guide book for all the super Mario Bros, The legend of Zelda 1, link, all the mega Man games… And a few others. I also have two original NES systems, a super Nintendo, N64, PS2, and a Wii.

520,

Oh yeah! Forgot about that stuff lol

jmcs,

Making the game harder also made a smaller game last longer. If you remove the difficulty factor of lots of most old games, either by tweaking it or mastering it, then it becomes possible to beat the game in a matter of minutes.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I was surprised when I first started watching longplays and discovered that most 16-bit and under games took 20-30 minutes to beat if you knew what you were doing.

Orbituary,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

Dragon Slayer.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The real scams were games with countdown timers that went down constantly unless you were able to get a lucky object. Notably, Gauntlet. You had to keep putting in quarters or you would die even if you were really good.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah I was never into arcade games as a kid. I realized right away that they were made to be difficult for that reason, so it felt like they were not worth it.

But games at home, at my commodore 64 or Amiga, were often difficult too. There was often no tutorials even. You just started playing and figured things out. I remember feeling like I had all the time in the world back then. As an adult, I often feel my time is limited and I should be doing something useful with it.

funkless_eck,

it didn’t help if you were in (eg) the uk where games cost £1 a go, rather than 25c. Which was nearly $2 in 1992, so 8x as expensive

leggettc18,

Well there’s a few things for early at home games, for one the instruction booklets were actually worth a damn, often containing the story, tutorial, and more. Also, size was at much more of a premium, so since instruction manuals were a thing, it was considered a waste to have all of that stuff in the game itself. I’m sure there are exceptions but that’s the general idea.

Much as I lament the loss of good instruction manuals, it’s understandable why they went away in light of why they were necessary before.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah the best manual I ever read was for en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunship_(video_game), it was amazing. A thick manual explaining so much about the military helicopter and how it worked. Was thrilling to read as a kid.

I don’t remember the graphics being so bad though…:) But it’s pretty shit by today’s standards.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/4bedae1d-a5a0-477f-9afa-58b753940f69.png

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

For PC in 1986, those are pretty good graphics. Arcades were where the best graphics were back then.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I think this was on Commodore 64 actually :)

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m using PC in the literal “personal computer” sense. I don’t recall PC = Microsoft being a thing back then, though I may be wrong.

Shiggles,

It’s okay, most* games have good wikis that do an alright impression.

*Less so now that we have the plague that is fextralife and similar doing their damndest to elbow out useful wikis for any and every game.

whofearsthenight,

I swear I probably spent like 2 solid weeks after school just running into walls in the Water Temple because I couldn’t figure it out. And I used to 100% like everything I played. You’d find out every secret, every cheat, and spend hours. Especially once things like GTA came out, just hours and hours of doing functionally nothing. Fuck even games I didn’t really even like I was an expert in. These days, I’m lucky to get a few hours a week on a game, and I rarely finish anything that’s not exactly the type of game I’m extremely into, and 100% is a thing that basically never happens anymore.

CowsLookLikeMaps,

Gamers these days!

GeneralEmergency,

That is the most boomer shit I have ever heard. Games were difficult because the rental market was huge.

panchzila,

Game developers didn’t profit from rents.

GeneralEmergency,

The publishers did.

panchzila,

Not as much as if there was no rental business. It was bad for them, Nintendo even tried to stop blockbuster from renting their games. They weren’t designing games thinking about the rentals.

teamevil,

What is funny is that we remember Nintendo still. NEC’s TurboGrafx -16 failed because you couldn’t rent games.

GeneralEmergency,

The lion king monkey puzzle was made for the rental market.

panchzila,

Made for the rental market?

It was hard so it would suck for people who rented the game. Developers and publishers didn’t get a cut for each rental.

GeneralEmergency,

A game you can compete in one sitting is not a game you’ll rent for a long time.

teamevil,

But they sure did by selling extra copies, plus if the game was good we’d buy it. I’m convinced the TG-16 never took off because they didn’t let places rent games.

Plus game rentals made owning a console more attractive and that means perhaps more potential sales for all games you’ve produced.

Short view you’re right, long view I think rentals helped the industry much more than hurt it back then.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Arcade games were difficult because they were the microtransactions of the day, and console games were difficult because that’s how you made a simple game last longer.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

I meannnn I’m old, but easy games like Kirby were such a treat, it’s no surprise things went the way they did.

EherVielleicht, in Yeah, but...

Use the pipe, Luke!

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah … don’t needle around carefully jumping onto one block then spend half an hour positioning yourself right to the edge to give yourself enough room to run and jump … You have to learn to make a full on run over the pipe, just touch the far edge, land on the far block still running at full speed and time your jump at the last possible moment … It’s a skill that takes months to achieve … I know because I spent an entire summer one year doing that.

TheBlue22, in That's what she said?

Gamer put in VGA instead hasn’t he

Aganim,

Nah, he tried to plug in a DisplayPort connector. With a sledgehammer.

TheBlue22,

As you do of course.

If it doesn’t fit, just try harder until it does

Lev_Astov,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

Trying to plug a DP cable in there with a hammer is about the only real explanation I can think of for this kind of damage. I’ve seen and repaired some gnarly receptacle damage before but never anything that deformed the metal and surrounding plastic like this.

NegativeLookBehind, in Be amazed by the uses of Tech...
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

I specifically remember being told that the internet would make people smarter.

paddirn,

It’s the Disinformation Superhighway

BastingChemina,

Internet can make people smarter, if they actually want to get smarter.

Emi621,

It does, having all the humanity knowledge in your pocket is amazing and you can learn a lot which people do use to learn and get smarter. Sadly not everyone uses it that way and some just refuse to learn but that’s just loud minority (I hope).

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

I would argue that it’s contributed to the collective stupidity of humanity on a global scale. It’s had a lot of positive impacts as well, of course. I guess the negative ones just seem more palpable.

SeekPie,

Maybe the internet has shown us people that were already dumb but we just didn’t have a way of knowing they exist?

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Yes, but now stupid people can easily collaborate with other stupid people, amplifying the echo-chamber-circle-jerk on a global, nearly instantaneous level. Furthering the stupid at a never before seen rate.

LemmysMum,

Used to be every village had their idiot. Now every idiot has their village.

Black_Gulaman, (edited )
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It gave them the means to find each other and also gave them a sort of megaphone to shout and spread their stupidity.

jaybone,

And then they voted, and turns out it was like half of the voting population.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Has it, though? I grew up in the 80s, and I feel like I simply didn’t have a clue how ignorant people were or what batshit things people believed behind closed doors. Even when people disclosed to me their inner narrative, I feel like I just assumed they were joking or using extreme hyperbole.

The internet has made me realize … they weren’t joking. At all. They really believe that shit.

averagedrunk,

I’m approximately your age. I assumed the same thing. Hell, I thought crazy conspiracy theories were just people pretending “What if…” together.

In my younger days I would have been on a lot of bandwagons just to joke about the people who “didn’t get the joke”. It turns out I was the one that didn’t get it.

SnuggleSnail,

I would look at it from a different angle. Before the internet you had to have a lot of knowledge in different areas to be able to sound and behave smart, and also to make good choices.

Now you have knowledge readily available everywhere and there is much less incentive to learn things you don’t currently need, just to have it available in case you talk to someone about this topic.

This has become even more evident with AI, where you don’t have to skim through a lot of context to find your information, you just ask what you need and it is presented the way you need it right away.

StephniBefni,

I think I’m general it has, but it also makes the dumb ones very loud.

qooqie, in That's what she said?

Kids got some anger issues

ZILtoid1991, in That's what she said?
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

That looks more like someone who tried to plug in in reverse...

Xyloph, in Helicopters are okay.

As a paramotor pilot, helicopters are also terrifying!

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