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pineapplelover, in todoist alternatives

I’ve been using SuperProductivity and it’s been pretty good

rustydomino, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

Another approach is rather than worry about whether the robot or IoT device is respecting your privacy, set up your network to be segmented with VLANs so that the IoT devices can only reach the internet and nothing else on your network. Then just provide fake info for setting up accounts with the IoT devices.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

I do the reverse. My IoT devices that I didn’t make myself get shut out of communicating with anything but Home Assistant.

I’ll let them have internet access if there’s a firmware update, but that’s it. Anything that requires an internet connection to work doesn’t get purchased.

SergeantScar,

… I may need a tutorial on doing this… My HA works great, but I have a ton of Hue in my house from before and really like the bulbs and stuff… It would be nice to block those off from the Internet… Is that doable on the router or do I need to upgrade my network (been thinking about doing some upgrades anyways).

rustydomino,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

you need a router and mostly likely wireless APs that support VLANs.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

The easiest way is to put your IoT devices on the guest network and block internet access to the network, but you could do firewall rules if your router allows that.

Or, get a home lab router instead of consumer grade. I went with MikroTik, and it’s a great bang for your buck. It’s not too dissimilar from Cisco in the cli, but the GUI is nice too.

soloner,

I like this approach cuz it plays ball and can be reused for a number of products. Could have an “appliances” network and make a reusable fake “appliances” identity for any device that wants to IoT.

Xavienth,

Isn’t the whole idea that they’re using the internet to relay information about the layout of your home

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

That mitigates a rather minimal leak while ignoring the gaping black data hole.

Rogers, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

Check out valetudo github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo

anarchist, in todoist alternatives
@anarchist@lemmy.ml avatar

Been using Legendapp for about 2 years now - it’s great except the android app is not great. Worth giving it a try at least I’ll say.

JoeKrogan, (edited ) in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I have an ecovacs deebot n79S and it just uses a remote. You put it on auto and let it do its thing. The pathfinding isn’t great but it does the job and you can manually control it if needs be. There is an option for connecting an app but thats not happening. As long as it comes with a remote you should be good.

I should also add that its easy to clean and pop the front wheel and rear brush out as well as the 2 spinning brushes. The dust compartment slides out easily too.

We have had it for about 2 years so far and it still runs fine.

riskable, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

This has got to be the most boring dystopia thing I’ve ever read (so far).

Deconceptualist,

There’s a community for this. lemmy.world/c/aboringdystopia

library_napper, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Broom

9488fcea02a9,

Roomba is an anagram for “a broom”

intensely_human,

I thought it was an anagram for “Robo Ma”

ExtremeDullard, (edited ) in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“I’m looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot” must be one of the most dystopian sentences I’ve read in quite some time.

I mean there is no lack of dystopian stuff going around these days. But if you imagine someone saying that 30 years ago, that someone would have conceivably ended up in a lunatic asylum. In 2024 however, it’s a perfectly valid and apropos question.

What a sad, sad world we live in…

otp,

OTOH, “I’d like a TB that doesn’t show me its own ads” would’ve been perfectly predictable.

People were predicting it as soon as devices other than computers started connecting to the internet. Maybe even before that.

user224, (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“I’m looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot” must be one of the most dystopian sentences I’ve read in quite some time.

I think this one is just as good:

Philips changes terms after the sale: requires data-sharing account to use a light bulb…

Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2j-r3pmng (Louis Rossman)

fuzzy_feeling, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

not the answer you are looking for, but maybe interesting nonetheless… …ccc.de/…/37c3-11943-sucking_dust_and_cutting_gra…

Filtatos, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

You can check out Valetudo. It is a custom firmware you can flash on many robot vacuum cleaners. Think of it as a layer between the robot and the manufacturer’s cloud that exposes the robot’s capabilities locally thus making the connection with manufacturer’s cloud redundant. There is a section with supported robots and instructions on their site making it very easy to install.

Jerry1098,

Thanks, that looks really promising

federico3,

Because Valetudo is not a custom firmware, it cannot change anything about how the robot operates.

Source: valetudo.cloud/pages/general/newcomer-guide.html

Filtatos,

Yeap you are right, custom firmware is the wrong phrase perhaps my fastidious friend :P. I suppose you can call it “cloud replacement” software that runs on the robot after you flash a rooted firmware that allows you to make changes.

brokenlcd, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

I think your best option is to find a used one that supports valetudo

besmtt,

+1 for Valetudo! I’ve installed it once via OTA and twice by FEL. The OTA was obviously a breeze, but FEL wasn’t that bad. I just watched videos on YouTube for the disassembly and took my time doing each step. I love the UI and the fact that I can SSH into them just for the sheer coolness of it! I think one great thing about it is that it doesn’t affect the software that the robot uses for all its tasks and functions (e.g. vacuuming, mopping, sensors), just that it replaced the cloud and runs it on device.

DreadPotato,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

Damn, thats a pretty short list og supported models

brokenlcd,

The problem is that they are closed off systems; you need to do full on reverse engineering to even understand what you are dealing with; plus there is the fact that these appliances are expensive and, unlike people modding consoles, there isn’t mutch gained for the majority of users

Jerry1098,

Thanks a lot, that pretty much what I was looking for

brokenlcd,

No problem; do note that in most cases you are going to need to open the vacuum to access the serial interface; so make sure you are comfortable with doing that and that you have the necessary adapters… That last one bit me on numerous projects

holycrapwtfatheism,

Never knew this was a thing. Going to try it on my roborock, appreciate the link.

skimm,

I’d definitely recommended valetudo, but wanted to mention that eufy has some easily repairable non WiFi vacs that work reasonably well with no smart features. Eufy has a rough track record regarding privacy with their other smart products but can’t spy without a connection.

sndrtj,

This is damn great.

Salix, (edited )

I use a Dreametech L10 Pro with Valetudo and absolutely love it!

It is quite nice to be able to map your whole house for the vacuum in your own cloud rather provide a 3rd party that data.

LetterboxPancake,

I might get into robot vacuums again, thank you very much!

dd56, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

Remind me in 1 day

Oha,

nope. reminding you now

dd56,

Good bot

Cwilliams, in How Tracking and Technology in Cars Is Being Weaponized by Abusive Partners

Not OP, but here’s the link if it didn’t load for other people.

PrecisePangolin, in todoist alternatives

TickTick may fit your needs?

charles,

I switched over to TickTick when Todoist suddenly changed their pricing model a few years ago. I don’t remember the specifics of what happened but I remember being very frustrated with the sudden changes as it would’ve required me to change my whole system.

I’ve been very happy with TickTick since then and would strongly recommend OP checks it out to see if it fits their needs.

emli42,

Not sure if a Chinese app will offer more privacy.

PrecisePangolin,

Fair assessment, official company headquarters based in California but a lot of Chinese devs as well as the owner. Good to be aware of.

cheese_greater, in todoist alternatives

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    Looks cool but no Android :(

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