RedditMigration

This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

xc2215x, in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

Spez loves Musk apparently.

Seasoned_Greetings, in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

I’ve heard that moneied interests are paying Twitter and now reddit behind the scenes to ruin their respective communities. It’s because every time something happens that shakes the foundation of who’s in charge, it’s always a social media coordinated public effort behind the push for change. The most recent one I can think of is the Twitter-fueled women’s rights movement in Iran. Or even the push to get progressive names like AOC elected.

So now we have rich interests paying CEOs to sabotage their own companies in order to better maintain the status quo.

I know this concept falls squarely into conspiracy theory territory, but with Twitter and reddit, both once bastions of progressive organization, going to shit at the same time, and threads popping up with the messaging that they explicitly want to avoid news and politics, you can’t help but wonder if there’s a concentrated effort behind the scenes to break up communities that are actually starting to make a difference.

WeDoTheWeirdStuff,

Do you have even 1 source to back up that outlandish statement?

WolfhoundRO,

It doesn’t sound too outlandish. The destruction of Twitter seems to attract some replacement from the far-right groups, Threads is already gaining far-right pages promotion and Reddit is still in the phase of destroying a once very influencial community. And all in the same time as the beginning of the US electoral campaign. It really aligns with a concentrated effort

HughJanus,

I mean what makes far more sense is that interests rates have skyrocketed, which means VC money dried up, which means these platforms that haven’t made money in over a decade suddenly have to figure out how to run themselves.

It’s not just Reddit and Twitter, it’s YouTube and Twitch also.

Brkdncr,

It also might have something to do with the people running the show are now being tasked with real work and it turns out they aren’t good at their job.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I think this is the Occam’s razor explanation that makes more sense. And why might Reddit be doing such a similar thing so soon after twitter? Spez has said he’s in touch with Elon and admires his business decisions. Simple as that.

Xeelee,
@Xeelee@kbin.social avatar

It's a theory that fits the available evidence. So it's more valid than most conspiracy theories.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

For those in control … there is no more terrible thing than to have all your workers talking amongst one another to discuss how terrible their situation is and what they could all do about it.

It’s the same in prison … if the guards and management keep everyone in control by isolating them all. Once the inmates start talking to one another, they start to conspire and plan on what to do about their situation. If they plan long enough, they’ll figure out how to do illegal activity, find specialty items or contraband … give them more time and they’ll start trying to figure out how to break out of their situation.

Then when things go too far and all sorts of illegal activity is taking place and people are trying to break out … the guards and managers will shake up the prison and breakup the communications system they were all using.

fearout, in Reddit Copy Project?
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

There’s been a lot of discussion, but I’m not sure if anything’s truly active yet.

For example, check out this latest post from this community, or this one that is more copy-to-Lemmy-focused.

SamXavia,
@SamXavia@lemmy.world avatar

Amazing to see there is some communities to try and do this, Thank you for the links.

Wisely, in Teddit shutting down due to reddit API limitations

Really annoyed by Reddit. First they take away Apollo. Then I started using Teddit last week. Now that’s gone too. I am not visiting their website or downloading their app.

Is there an archived website that I can redirect Reddit links to like you could do with Teddit? Then no api is needed.

e_t_, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious

My subscription was going to renew on July 3rd, but I let it expire. That seems like a wiser decision every day.

nevernevermore,

Just out of curiosity, what is it that you were subscribing for? I used r*ddit for 13 years and never saw the need to pay for premium or gold or whatever. What features did it offer?

e_t_,

I felt like the subscription was reasonable for the amount of time I spent on Reddit.

Big_Boss_77, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious
@Big_Boss_77@kbin.social avatar

Reddit still has users? I thought I was all chatbots?

xc2215x, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious

Not a surprise Redditors hate losing coins.

Buelldozer, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious
@Buelldozer@lemmy.world avatar

Ad Revenue. Someone paying for Reddit Premium gets an ad free experience which is fine but someone who gets gifted Gold also gets an ad free experience. They need as many people as possible to see ads so free loaders have to go…which means so do the coins.

I fully expect that within a year Reddit will start doing what many streaming services are where the lowest tier is free but ad supported, then there’s a paid “limited ad” tier, followed by an even more expensive “No Ads” tier. The current Reddit Premium program will transition to that mid-tier category and they’ll add “Reddit Ultimate” or some BS as the new Ad Free option. It’ll probably cost $10 a month too.

stopthatgirl7, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

I can see why they’d want to streamline the award system, since it is a bit messy, but they’re getting rid of something that made Reddit unique and that people seemed to like, for…what, exactly?

ouigol, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious

Not that I even use Reddit anymore, but when I did I used Apollo and I had awards disabled. Honestly they don’t bring anything to the discussion and certainly not since they introduced a hundred new awards that were free.

Manifish_Destiny, in Minecraft is leaving Reddit

Welcome to the 'find out' phase, which should wrap up nicely by around the 7th.

Newo,

I’m out of the loop here, what happens on the 7th?

cazzodicristo,

total reddit death. TRD

DreamyDolphin,
@DreamyDolphin@kbin.social avatar

The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there'll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.

TaygetaDuck,

Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

Good riddance.

tuxrandom,

At some point, it will just be repost bots having conversations in the comments of posts "created" by other repost bots.

Kbin_space_program,

I realized that after deleting my oldest reddit account I should have sold the damn thing.

Might work out how to do that yet for my remaining accounts

Pixelologist,
@Pixelologist@kbin.social avatar

Where did you find pricing info? I wouldn't have guessed accounts would be worth much with the rampant botting

abff08f4813c,

Accounts with 100,000+ karma are $200 and up, apparently. Source: savingadvice dot com /articles/2023/05/31/1089629_sell-your-reddit-account.html

On playerup dot com /acconts/redditacconut/ I see one "rare account" that's 13 years old going for $120 and a 14 year old one for $150

Most are a few years old, just barely a few thousand karma, and $17-25.

curiosityLynx,

I like my username too much to have a hand in making it shill ads and misinformation.

HarkMahlberg,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

/r/subreddit_simulator wasn't just an experiment, it was prophetic.

Anarch157a,
@Anarch157a@lemmy.world avatar

It ended up as /u/Spez's roadmap for the future of Reddit.

moon_matter,
@moon_matter@kbin.social avatar

Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I'm going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.

parrot-party,
@parrot-party@kbin.social avatar

You can still use the APIs but you do it via a browser. So it is slightly more annoying for botters but a death blow for apps.

Can_you_change_your_username,

I hadn't thought about that, are they killing RES? Killing RES is the same as killing old reddit.

moon_matter,
@moon_matter@kbin.social avatar

They will be fine. But the extension itself is on its last legs. Reddit is slowly breaking old reddit by making features or markdown new reddit only. The team also seems to be down to 2 people and the project is in maintenance mode.

sliceable_aspirin,

Its gonna be interesting when Reddit turns into r/SubredditSimulator

Hyperreality,

It's kinda funny in a dystopian way.

A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it's just software, even if he 'married' his bodypillow.

Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they're regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they've atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.

It's not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.

RoboRay,
@RoboRay@kbin.social avatar

Conversational masturbation.

killick,
@killick@kbin.social avatar

But, Brawndo has what plants crave. It has electrolytes.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a bot

Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.

If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.

cyberian_khatru,
@cyberian_khatru@kbin.social avatar

you’re blaming the medium

I don't think that's implied in the post. Also reddit inc is complicit in the bot farming since it boosts their engagement metrics.

joelfromaus,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

I won’t miss checking the post and top comment accounts to see if they’re bots. I’m hoping the same doesn’t start occurring over here.

nanaslugdiva,

I have only used the official app and can I just say, the experience has gotten noticeably worse in the past 6 weeks or so.

required,

I have to wait 3 seconds to load a post. Collapsing a comment is laggy, takes like 0.5 seconds at least. Scrolling itself is laggy.
It sure doesn't seem like a lot when I write seconds but it's absolutely TERRIBLE when you use it more than a minute. I only have official app for chat and instant messages because Infinity didn't send me any notifications :( I'll use old reddit on mobile with an extension that helps with mobile usage, along with official reddit for the aforementioned functions as usual.

uxl,

I just wish more people knew to come here. I even snuck this alternative into a presentation at a Fortune 150…

DreamyDolphin,
@DreamyDolphin@kbin.social avatar

People will come, it's just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)

metaStatic,

like everything google kills it was the best of it's kind but wasn't immediately profitable so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

bobs_monkey,

Yup, just got the notification from BaconReader this morning that they’re throwing in the towel

Dav,
@Dav@kbin.social avatar

It’ll take about a week for the ‘find out’ phase to wrap up, then we’re onto the lesser known ‘baby please come back I can change’ phase.

BlendedRacer,
@BlendedRacer@kbin.social avatar

And like a gaslighting abusive ex they won't change!

IonAddis, in Reddit (this is repetitive and has happened before with LiveJournal)
@IonAddis@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah.

I’m pretty convinced that Livejournal was Russia’s test bed for weaponizing social media. I think they used it against their own citizens first, and data-mined the English-speaking side to understand how it worked, and took what they learned to perfect the shit-storm of lies on modern social media (on Tumblr/Twitter/Reddit/everywhere.)

SONOFNAT,

can you think of any other countries, that might be weaponizing the internet? or is russia the only one

TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

Any country that has internet? However, Russia seems to be the most active (or at least best recognizable)

The US ‘just’ capitalizes it.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

The more I analyse the news and what is happening in the world as a whole … I don’t think nations matter any more. It doesn’t matter if you say it’s Russian, Ukrainian, American, German, Chinese or even Canadian … the power and influence is controlled by corporations and many of them have way more power and wealth than the smallest nations. They exert so much power that they influence (at least) or control (at most) every nation in the world.

They’re so wealthy and powerful that they can bend, break or manipulate any and all laws of any nation that stand in their way.

It’s not a conspiracy at this point … it’s just an observation.

kingthrillgore,
@kingthrillgore@kbin.social avatar

My economics teacher said it best: It's a conspiracy that occurs in plain sight, and yet people think aliens are conspiracies. They are distractions.

automater,
@automater@lemmy.one avatar

Whatabout Whatabout

deegeese,

Asking for additional examples is not whattaboutism.

keeb420, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious

Glad I left when the protest started.

ininewcrow, in Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s the equivalent of a crack dealer at this point.

At first they got people hooked with cheap drugs that worked and got you an easy high.

But now you need more and the dealer knows you’re desperate … so they increase the price, give you a cheaper product and string you along because they know no matter what they do, you’ll keep coming back for more.

They’ll start whoring you around and selling your body like trash and you won’t like it but if it means getting your next fix, you’ll do anything.

Eeyore_Syndrome, in remember to update your review of the official reddit app
@Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve been watching it since the initial API changes announcement.

Started at 3.9, it’s at 3.1 now.

GreedyYardHippos,
@GreedyYardHippos@kbin.social avatar

The Apple Store has it at 4.8, some comments are claiming 1 star reviews are being deleted

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

There are like 2.7 million reviews. At a rating of 4.8 it would take tens of thousands to reduce that by just a tenth of a point even if they rated it as a 1.

fist_of_fartitude,

Math don’t real

fearout,
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

If you sort by newest almost every comment has been 1 star for a couple of months already. It’s just hard to break through millions of reviews throughout the years. Time-weighed rating system would be more accurate.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • RedditMigration@kbin.social
  • localhost
  • All magazines
  • Loading…
    Loading the web debug toolbar…
    Attempt #