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Jaysyn, in Google thinks its new Perspectives tab will finally get you to stop adding 'Reddit' to searches
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Reddit is doing a good job of that on its own.

omnislayer88, in r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.

Banned, aka set permanently private, exactly what reddit wanted to destroy

Oshka, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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Jesus.....why would he even bother adjusting the business model if part of the agreement was he makes zero money??....Am I missing understanding something? Seems like a waste of time on developers part...

PixelPassport,

Yeah it seems crazy, I'm pretty interested to see how many people will pay for it.

Oshka,
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Agreed. Damn sure I won't be one of them lol. Never going back.

abff08f4813c,

IIUC Narwhal 1 will be free but will drop its ads in return for being free (so a non-commercial app). Rather than a special deal I figure that this passed under the same rule that other noncommercial apps like RedReader did.

Narwhal 2 will charge a subscription to cover the API fees, including top up fees if you go over some limit, suggesting this is the normal reddit API pricing. I think developers of like Apollo couldn't do this because they had preexisting annual subscriptions. I guess Narwhal didn't have anything like this.

Oshka,
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I guess I thought the whole issue was even if the app was not commercial, in order for users to actually make it work they need to use reddit API and that's unsustainable since it cost money regardless. Maybe that's where my misunderstanding stems from. I'm not the most tech savvy with all this API stuff.

abff08f4813c,

Your understanding is correct, but reddit did announce exemptions for noncommercial apps and accessibility apps (without defining the latter term). IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be lunprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

Oshka,
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Thank you! Finally getting a complete understanding. Appreciate the info!

hoodatninja,
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without defining the latter term

Which is why many of us rolled our eyes and ignored the statement as usual lol

abff08f4813c,

Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

NotAPenguin,

I don't think they said noncommercial and accessibility apps but rather noncommercial accessibility apps

abff08f4813c,

Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

wjrii, (edited )
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IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be unprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

They did, ignoring the fact that the scales are completely different and the fact that the 3PAs helped mods and engaged, contributing members provide content and services that Reddit didn't have to pay for, thereby mitigating or maybe even completely counterbalancing the costs of supporting them.

abff08f4813c,

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

WonkoTheSane,

It seems like there’s going to be a super premium tier for power users to cover that cost

iamsgod,

including top up fees if you go over some limit

top up fees for some forum? lol

rynzcycle,

I'm sorry, you're out of upvotes. Would you like to purchase 100 more for $1.99?

NetHandle, in I still appear on Google and I edited and deleted all my comments, this is BS!

People finding out the internet never forgets, and never forgives.

Kbin_space_program,

Based on EU law, reddit has to delete your stuff when you ask. Right to be forgotten and all that .

lifeishard,

This is Google remembering. Not reddit.

abff08f4813c,

Google cache does expire so it will forget eventually. The problem is when you go to the original on reddit, we're seeing that some of the comments still have their text intact, but with a [deleted] username now.

valaramech,
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This is the expected behavior on Reddit when you delete your account. None of your posts go anywhere. You have to manually, before you delete your account, edit them to remove their contents. Requests for deletion under GDPR may function differently.

abff08f4813c,

Sadly, at the moment, they do not. https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/94785/Can-t-view-delete-comments-after-7-months#entry-comment-402774

Several folks here have reported this noncompliance to their gov't and i expect an epic showdown where reddit gets its behind handed to it, but that's likely some years away.

The important thing is to get people to be aware of this. A lot of folks seem to delete their accounts and then, too late, be caught by surprise that nothing they wrote is deleted - and now cannot be removed.

Some folks do the right thing, but then get surprised when it turns out that redact.dev or shreddt.com or Power Delete Suite failed to delete all of their comments for various reasons.

We shouldn't let reddit get away with this.

BioDriver, in r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.
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We don’t need no water let the motherfucker burn

Graf_Fiker, in Apollo was always reddit
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I feel that, except i was using Infinity app for reddit, it was a very good open source reddit client.

VulcanSphere, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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Is this a PR damage control by the Snoo Platform, Inc?

So they can say "Look, we still care about 3PA"

szczur, in As Reddit protests turn to porn-bombing, advertisers face increasing brand safety concerns
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Absolutely based.

Th4tGuyII, in Protests broke Reddit hack for useful Google search results—and Google knows it
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It's a shame really. The Reddit hack really was the only way to get around all the SEO crap invading your search results.

Glad Google seems to be, at least briefly, realising the problem. People want actual answers, not useless crap designed to look like them.

sogekingfisher,

I’d like to see a search engine that has a setting to just search forums. Organic user generated content is where most of the valuable information is, at least for troubleshooting/ product recommendations/ hobbies.

Th4tGuyII,
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Certainly for niche stuff, it is one of the best ways to get any information period.

mrbigmouth502, in Reddit breaks the law to quell protests - spez has gone too far
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What's the TL;DW version?

JonEFive,

Basically what we already know. Reddit is restoring comments that have been deleted by users possibly in violation of data privacy laws.

Louis goes a little farther by sharing the story of one particular user who tried multiple ways to delete their content including manually deleting every single comment one by one. Then to answer Reddit's response that user data is "anonomized" by disassociating it with the user account when the user deletes their account, the user points out that at least one of their posts has their full name in it, and by restoring that post against the user's wishes, they've violated California's data privacy laws.

He then goes into his typical cynical rant which I personally find entertaining but I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

communistcapy,
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He also mentioned that Spez edited user content that was critical of him, without any indication to others that he was editing it.

Teal, in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping
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Good explanations in your article! In case you may not already know there's a kbin app (later to work with lemmy as well) called Artemis in the works as well.

shellsharks,
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Yep, this has been added!

Teal,
@Teal@kbin.social avatar

Cool! This is a solid article that I can point people to who have confusion about the federated online spaces. Thanks!

b00m, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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He really does have a punchable face

BettyWhiteInHD,
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I googled the name of the Narwhal dev, Rick Harrison and got a very nice chuckle out of it. I know it's not the same guy, but god damn it, it caught me off guard.

czech, (edited ) in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping
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Great info. I think where you first define Lemmy you should also mention that its in the fediverse, like you did for kbin. This would make it more obvious that they're essentially just different front-ends to the same content.

BarrierWithAshes, in As Reddit protests turn to porn-bombing, advertisers face increasing brand safety concerns
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The ongoing war between the power mods and Reddit's admin have been nothing short of spectacular.

zlatiah, (edited ) in r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.
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So having all the mods quit is actually a viable way to protest? (writes down notes)

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