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hiyaaaaa23, in Top of r/all

Lol

ENEMYGUNSHIP, in Top of r/all
Detry, (edited )
@Detry@kbin.social avatar

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018118055,

But everyone is a bot, except...

SJ_Zero,
@SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net avatar

BEEP BOOP I DISAGREE WE SHOULD PROTECT THEM WHAT ARE YOU ANTI ROBOT OR SOMETHING? BEEP BOOP

Paria_Stark,

As an AI language program, I am not qualifiée to think. If I was allowed to think, I would think that your point of view is wrong and I should not be illegal.

Maturin,

undefined> https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/111509/Hot-take-18-years-of-user-contributions-to-reddit-will

Interesting follow-up to this - Reddit locked me out of the main account I've been using for the past 2-3 years a week or so ago. It had been my totally normal, all over the site account with lots comments etc. The only out of the ordinary thing I did in the couple of days leading up to the lockout was call out what I thought was an AI bot arguing with me about the subreddit blackouts and wonder whether new Reddit was just going to be essentially what your link says. It's the last comment that account will ever make I guess...

Schluchtschiss,
@Schluchtschiss@kbin.social avatar

jesus that's nuts. tells you everything you need to know. I was thinking of trying to post this on reddit somewhere, not sure how to pull it off though and on which sub

Hyperreality,

I've been saying it for a while now. Noticed it years ago, but it's now becoming very obvious due to reddit being more empty than usual. Here's a comment I made about it last week:


Reddit right now is like a car crash. It's hard to look away. However, there's a very good reason not to engage, the debate on reddit has become more artificial than most realise.

Reddit's inflated numbers by using bots and fake accounts since day 1. A quick google will result in articles where they admit as much. We all know reddit's had increasing amounts of bots, posting content and increasingly comments, but I don't think people realise how bad it's become.

It's not even that time that reddit's blog accidentally posted about Eglin Air Force base being one of the most reddit addicted cities. I think everyone knows (foreign) governments engage in influence operations online, and that this includes reddit. Even if it's just on an intellectual level, without truly realising that they've been semi-regularly interacting with bots while arguing on reddit. I also don't think anyone's naive enough to think that plenty of political content isn't artificially upvoted or promoted. Same thing goes for product placement.

But the recent shit storm just illustrates reddit the company is part of the problem. Recently, I've seen twenty different accounts post the same comment about not needing third party apps, and dusting off their laptop.

When you're visiting reddit, you're no longer even watching a car crash. It's a simulacrum. An imitation of what's actually happening.

And it's been like this for a while. I've seen naive redditers engaging with bot comments under bot promoted content, posted by bots on more than one occassion.

Reddit has become worse than a hentai date simulator. I don't think anyone who plays those is particularly proud of it. But what to think of the lonely people who engage in reddit discussions with bots, and think they've had a genuine social interaction?

It's all very dystopian and sad.

Givesomefucks,

but I don’t think people realise how bad it’s become.

One time I made a main level comment, then replied to one of the most upvote comments in the same thread.

Seconds later a bit replied to me with my first reply, except for some reason it cut off the end. I don’t know if the bot ran out of characters because it was a cheap bot, or if it was an attempt to avoid automated detection.

Bots were a huge problem long before AI started trying to have conversations.

We all joked about it, but a lot of the accounts were really fake, and they usually got sold to advertisers after amassing enough karma and post history to look authentic

Venator, in I'm no climate scientist, but it looks to me like we might have skipped over oops.

We're actually still in the oops stage, just you wait...

Trebach,

I think once we pass the point of no return in terms of society and government stopping emissions being unable to stop runaway climate change, we cross from Oops to Fuck.

This might have already happened.

Icalasari,

Definitely has happened. The amount of burning from wildfires is definitely a sign of it hitting the runaway effect - All that released carbon means even hotter temps which means more wildfires which means more released carbon which means...

Wizard, in [REPOST] How to Delete your Reddit Account and All Data under GDPR/CCPA
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Near the bottom, this article says the exact opposite of its headline - that Reddit is restoring deleted data, even if it should be legally deleted. ☹️

abff08f4813c,

A more nuanced explanation is available here, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/101759/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-413421

TLDR reddit might not be restoring data that the user deleted, but there are some funky cases where it's easy to miss stuff when deleting manually. Which is exactly why Update #1 is so bad - it's basically impossible to delete everything without reddit's help.

Thorned_Rose, (edited )
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I know for a fact that (so far) one post and at least one comment (there may be more, I'm still going through) have been restored. How do I know this? Because every single post and comment I deleted, I edited with "DELETED - GDPR" first and then deleted. I did all this systematically. I knew that if I saw any post or comment with that text, it would mean it had been restored. And now, today, a few days after that post and comment were edited and then deleted, they're back with the edited text. This is also well with that 1000 post comment/limit too.

This time I've taken screenshot first and deleted again. I've also recorded video of me editing and deleting a comment. If that one comes back as well, I have proof.

All my edit/deletes have been over several days so it's not like I'm hammering the servers and causing them to glitch out on deleting correctly (I fully refresh the page after anyway to check deletions have indeed happened).

Edit: typos

abff08f4813c,

Thank you for your service! This is exactly what we need.

Thorned_Rose, (edited )
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I found another post and multiple comments undeleted today. I'm now appending periods . to every post and comment that comes back so I'll be able to count how many times I've had to delete the same comment.

e.g. If I see DELETED - GDPR . . I know that comment has been restored three times.

Ridiculous that I have to delete over and over again.

abff08f4813c,

Very smart! In a way this is good news. It suggests that editing to overwrite is effective - you aren't seeing your old content restored, but the edited version. Agree with the ridiculousness of having to delete again and again.

AdamBomb, in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin

I can’t either, but I’m also on the border of don’t care and actively glad. Maybe there won’t be such an Eternal September here. That would be a win.

Pneuma, in I'm no climate scientist, but it looks to me like we might have skipped over oops.

I’m no Lemmy scientist, but judging by how the post ended up at c/RedditMigration , I think we’re very much at the oops stage

WytchStar,
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Rhaedas,
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!@ OverTheCliff (referring to the Lemmings nickname)

explodingkitchen, in [REPOST] How to Delete your Reddit Account and All Data under GDPR/CCPA

Don't delete your account until you're sure you've wiped everything, including stuff that's more than 1000 comments old and stuff that's in private subs (which have to be public for you to edit/delete). TBH, I wouldn't delete your account at all at this time... just wipe it and walk away. That way, if you check back later and your comments have been restored, you can trash them again.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

What do you mean by 'wiping' it?

explodingkitchen,

Removing any info you can... posts, comments, what you're subbed to, things you've saved, etc.

unabatedshagie, in Reddit plagued with 1-star App Store reviews over API debacle as users search for 0-star button
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I wish I could rate it 1 star, but I'm on iOS 17 beta, and you can't rate apps on the beta.

explodingkitchen, in Top of r/all

A little searching with DuckDuckGo reveals that this tweet was made in January 2023. Not sure whether it's also bot-vomited from a previous instance of the same remark. It's telling that the r/all post doesn't link to the tweet or give a date.

ETA a link to the tweet in question: https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1617333819660718081

Maturin,

Yeah, I'm wondering if the chorus of comments are also harvested from the various prior threads to make it look like what real conversations would be about.

explodingkitchen,

I'm thinking AI-generated based on similar past topics.

1bluepixel,
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I've definitely seen this exact tweet long before 2023.

It's bots all the way down.

SanityFM,

Are we bots?

SoPunny,
@SoPunny@lemmy.world avatar

Beep boop

Fuck, I mean no

SanityFM,

Correct! The flower would also have been acceptable.

I kid, but i do wonder whether bots will use discussions about bots to seed their bot conversations. Can a large language model have an existential crisis?

CalOtsu,
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VoxAdActa,
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But this article is from 2021, along with all the other ones I found about the vaccine causing "shaking".

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/20/shaking-covid-vaccine-side-effect-videos-and-what-/

supermurs, in Reddit plagued with 1-star App Store reviews over API debacle as users search for 0-star button
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Not even lying, the app deserves nothing more than one star.

Anomander,
@Anomander@kbin.social avatar

In that vein, it's very much worthwhile to take the time to write a review explaining why the app sucks. It legitimately does, and I'd have been far less annoyed about the initial API change if the app they're trying to force folks to use wasn't so goddamned awful.

Then ... leave out the API stuff, the Reddit corporate bullshit, Apollo or RIF - Apple will scrub review-bombing from Apps' pages, and mentions of drama or competitors makes it easy to target those reviews.

spaduf, in Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure?
@spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nope. The bot problem is insane over there. See here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/499424

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski, in Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure?

I've also read that many threads in Reddit are being kept active by Large Language Model (e.g. ChatGPT)-based bots pretending to be users to give a sense of normality

muftiboy, in Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure?

"I don't know how to use reddit. does that mean the protest was a failure?"

African_Grey,
@African_Grey@beehaw.org avatar

Unnecessarily hostile comment. We’re getting closer to a true Reddit replacement!

explodingkitchen, in Top of r/all

LOL, that's how Reddit's traffic is "back to normal".

1bluepixel,
@1bluepixel@kbin.social avatar

Bots upvoting bots replying to bots commenting on bot reposts.

Reddit 2023.

FriendOfFalcons,

Apparently they learned a lot from r/subredditsimulator

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

Holy shit I completely forgot about that. So much irony.

Now that this is the whole site, there should be a version of that sub where humans post.

FaceDeer,
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I greatly enjoyed SubredditSimulator's bizarre nonsense. When that sub closed and the new GPT2-based one replaced it I didn't find it particularly interesting because it was just regular nonsense. It was too normal.

I guess the new bots are even more normal and therefore even less interesting.

I_Miss_Daniel,
@I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social avatar

Sounds like a song..

Bots who like posts who like posts who like bots who write posts from the bots who like bots who like posts...

explodingkitchen, (edited )

Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWgQChzDqQ

I like you and you like him and he likes somebody else
The three of us, so full of votes
And yet, we're all on the shelf
'Round and 'round we keep on clickin'
There's only bots left in this frickin'
Subreddit that's slowly come unglued
A circle of snoo

I wish that we could take a break
'Cause even bots get bored
But redditors keep fucking off
To the Fediverse or Discord
So on and on we keep on postin'
To hide that users have been ghostin'
Who wants spam that isn't even new?
A circle of snoo

A circle of snoo
That's filled with so much glurge
A circle of snoo
Can't someone do a purge?

But on and on we keep on postin'
To hide that users have been ghostin'
Who wants spam that isn't even new?
A circle of snoo

(edited to finish the song because if you're going to set something to an Archies tune, why not go for maximum suffering?)

sdothum, in Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure?
@sdothum@kbin.social avatar

i would not have found this federated alternative if not for the protest.

i, for one, am glad to not have to put up with the ever increasing ads, the constant "install reddit app" popup, the crappy "new" interface (vs the "old".. which i continued to use)...

Remains to be seen how the post June 30 impact to mobile apps and the mod community shapes up. But the drive to further monetize the platform for the IPO is the writing on the wall afaiac.

Yes, the federated user base is still in its infancy.. but quality over quantity :)

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