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quickleft, in r/ZeroWaste mod talks about ongoing "plague of bots" spamming comments at an extremely high rate

For anyone who like me has never heard of “temu”, it is said to be some sort of chinese “fast fashion” website which might/probably traffic in the products of slave labor. Presumably in a way which exceeds other “fast fashion” but my investigation was quite shallow.

pizza_rolls,
@pizza_rolls@kbin.social avatar

It's like the home goods version of fast fashion. Unfortunately, a lot of the products on temu are the same Chinese made products you will find elsewhere at a higher markup. Especially if you still buy from Amazon. It's kinda annoying to see people turn their nose up at temu but happily buy JABXBSJ or whatever weird ass Chinese company name products on Amazon.

Hell, even if you're buying expensive ass home decor or clothes a lot of it is cheap stuff made by workers paid poorly in shit conditions.

Buying used has become the only moral option at this point. There's still a few products made in the US that are worth the money, but a lot of ones that used to be popular have moved their manufacturing to other countries now also.

Thorned_Rose,
@Thorned_Rose@kbin.social avatar

I wish more people understood this. Secondhand quality is vastly superior to brands new crap. Older second hand can be even better. My not have a bunch of fancy features but it'll last at lest the rest of your life if cared for.

But so many just can't get past the stigma of "second hand".

Nihilore,
@Nihilore@kbin.social avatar

is fast fashion like clothes you can get through a drive-through?

CarbonIceDragon,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

I believe it refers to clothes that are made cheaply with the intent that they wear out quickly and be thrown away.

vimdiesel,

No it’s cheaply made clothes that people wear for a couple months while something is fashionable and then throw it in the garbage after it fades/tears the third time they wash it or they get bored

TinyPizza, in r/ZeroWaste mod talks about ongoing "plague of bots" spamming comments at an extremely high rate
@TinyPizza@kbin.social avatar

Marvelous things are happening over at Reddit. Spez has locked himself in the company doomsday bunker and told everyone he'll come out once his "real" work friends get there. To watch the brush strokes of the maestro as they shape the future of so many unpaid laborers.

athos77,

he'll come out once his "real" work friends get there.

You wouldn't know them, they live in Canada.

Sinnerman,

once his "real" work friends get there

Steiner will attack from the north and unite with the Ninth army. Wenck will support them with the Twelfth Army.

They will repel the mods with a relentless and almighty assault.

aaronbieber, in Taking 11 years of data contribution with me! Train your AI with this, Reddit! (Power Delete Suite)
@aaronbieber@kbin.social avatar

This isn't likely to stop Reddit themselves from monetizing the data for AI training purposes. Deletion is typically "logical" in these types of systems, meaning that it's "marked as deleted" but not actually deleted.

What it does affect is the ability for others to see the posts, which might be companies accessing the API for AI training purposes. At this point, we don't know whether this is a meaningful path that Reddit wants to go down. If it is, they could allow the API to return deleted posts and comments (theoretically).

livus, in I'm no climate scientist, but it looks to me like we might have skipped over oops.
@livus@kbin.social avatar

No, we're in the middle of Oops.

The next step is the part where we are burning and drowning and dying in vast numbers.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

IMO starvation is more likely for the majority of us.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Perhaps. Resource scarcity leads to wars as well.

CanadaPlus,

Crop production might actually go up globally, however unevenly. War is the more likely outcome as the losers get desperate and the winners don’t care.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Crop production may rise in the long-term, but in the shorter term the brittle nature of the food supply chain in this globalized economy means store shelves could easily go empty overnight if there’s a drought or two, or hell, if wars break out all over due to other resource scarcity.

Sam_uk,
@Sam_uk@kbin.social avatar

@entropicdrift Yeah good luck exporting your siberian wheat through broken supply chains in a conflict zone.

@livus @CanadaPlus

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Yes, we have seen this last year with the famine in the Horn of Africa. They had arranged to ship in grain from Ukraine but then the war happened.

Even though they knew they were going to have another bad harvest and were proactive about supplies, that wasn't enough.

Arotrios, in Top of r/all
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

I think that while Reddit's user count has been rebounding since the blackout, their level of content submitted has cratered as a result of the admin actions. All of my feeds that didn't participate in the blackout have slowed and/or stalled there. I believe Huffman made everyone rethink about posting there, and as the content dries out, so will the userbase.

Once the third party tools die next month and the ability to sift through the content drought is reduced to the standard Reddit interface, we're going to see a black hole effect that will accelerate the slow heat death of r/all. The content submitters are clearly moving to other platforms, and the explosion of content and users on kbin and lemmy is a testament to this dynamic.

It's clear that admins are re-submitting popular content to try and blunt the fallout, but it speaks to greater failing - Reddit no longer has the trust of its users, and the sense of a coherent, save community space to contribute to has been broken beyond repair.

You can't replace that with AI, but it's pretty funny to watch them try.

sokolobo, in Thank you, DBrady.

Who had participated in the impromptu relay community of r/search?

jiji, in The Apollo inspired wefwef.app is the best Lemmy app/webapp right now, and its not even close.
@jiji@kbin.social avatar

This question is more related to the overall Lemmy/kbin experience and not necessarily wefwef, but is there a potential function in the works to hide posts? That’s what I loved about Apollo, I could manually hide posts (I had it as a swipe feature) or have it auto hide read posts. It kept my feed looking much more fresh, and it’s honestly the biggest thing I’m missing in the transition.

Rising5315,

That’s been worked on according to the GitHub issues and is going to be added to wefwef even though it’s not a native Lemmy function.

jiji,
@jiji@kbin.social avatar

That’s great to hear, thanks. I honestly didn’t know if it was just a thing for Apollo, did other apps have it as a feature? I went from AlienBlue to Apollo so haven’t experienced a lot of them.

Rising5315,

Yup. That’s a native Reddit feature so it is part of the implementation of a lot of apps. In wefwef’s case I’m not sure how they developed it because I don’t think that’sa native feature of Lemmy

GataZapata, in Top of r/all

I had noticed a sharp decline in quality. It was a kind of frog in boiling water situation, where more and more content was from Twitter, tiktok, poor ragebait about us politics....

I remember I went to reddit because that is where content from other platforms had originated. That stopped at some point

soft_frog,

I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.

It has long been screenshots of twitter (primarily WhitePeopleTwitter, BlackPeopleTwitter) for years, at least since 2016.

Also short form video is all the rage and Reddit is really pushing it, but that basically means it's just all TikTok re-uploads (or crops of TikTok, or crops of TikTok of crops of Youtube). The new Reddit video player is really mostly screen recordings of things.

The last year or two once Reddit became really really mainstream has had a lot more repost bots though. They basically do two things: farm small subs and repost their content into larger ones, or pull content from the front page from 6+ months ago and repost it (even the top comments are often blatantly reposted). The bots coincide with reddit getting more into ads and mainstream advertisers.

But, there have been prolific reposters like Gallowboob for many many years.

VoxAdActa,
@VoxAdActa@kbin.social avatar

I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.

I don't know. I don't think I agree. I've been seeing a lot more truly garbage-tier content on the first few pages of r/all lately, from some really weird, never-before-seen, garbage-tier subs. Half of them I don't even know what they're supposed to be about. What the fuck is a Honk Star Rail? Where the fuck did Pop Culture Chat come from? Who the fuck is Peter, and why is he explaining jokes? I used to doomscroll down to page 8 or 9 before I started seeing weird stuff like this, and now it's right there on page 1. In the past, when I started seeing that weird Taylor Swift Simp Cult sub, I knew I'd been on reddit too long. Now they regularly show up, if not on page 1, then high on page 2.

Along with the r/AmITheAsshole scab copy sub, r/AITAH, which somehow managed to make it to the front page in record time after it's creation, even though it has about 9% as many subscribers as the original did.

Hell, some of these posts on page 1 of r/all only have 1500 upvotes. That's insane.

Silviecat44,

I hated how every subreddit was focused around US politics (leopardatemyface, facepalm, etc)

LolaCat, in Lemmy lets you edit the title of your post
@LolaCat@beehaw.org avatar

I never understood why reddit didn't have this feature, I understand the abuse aspect but you can edit the bodies and everything is archived anyways ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Untitled_Pribor,

Maybe it was programmed that way and they didn't bother changing it? Also, deleing your post on Reddit doesn't delete the title

explodingkitchen, in Top of r/all

A little searching with DuckDuckGo reveals that this tweet was made in January 2023. Not sure whether it's also bot-vomited from a previous instance of the same remark. It's telling that the r/all post doesn't link to the tweet or give a date.

ETA a link to the tweet in question: https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1617333819660718081

Maturin,

Yeah, I'm wondering if the chorus of comments are also harvested from the various prior threads to make it look like what real conversations would be about.

explodingkitchen,

I'm thinking AI-generated based on similar past topics.

1bluepixel,
@1bluepixel@kbin.social avatar

I've definitely seen this exact tweet long before 2023.

It's bots all the way down.

SanityFM,

Are we bots?

SoPunny,
@SoPunny@lemmy.world avatar

Beep boop

Fuck, I mean no

SanityFM,

Correct! The flower would also have been acceptable.

I kid, but i do wonder whether bots will use discussions about bots to seed their bot conversations. Can a large language model have an existential crisis?

CalOtsu,
@CalOtsu@kbin.social avatar
VoxAdActa,
@VoxAdActa@kbin.social avatar

But this article is from 2021, along with all the other ones I found about the vaccine causing "shaking".

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/20/shaking-covid-vaccine-side-effect-videos-and-what-/

Ojazer92, in FYI: kbin.social has a dark mode (I just discovered this--maybe I'm late to the game), see image for simple how-to...

It needs a setting for amoleds like rif had. Would be perfect then

kaupas24,

100% this would be awesome

Sterben, in [REPOST] How to Delete your Reddit Account and All Data under GDPR/CCPA
@Sterben@lemmy.world avatar

I just wiped out all my comments. I will keep my account just in case. :)

klyde,
@klyde@lemmy.world avatar

Should've requested your GDPR data before that. It gives them more work to do.

ThesePaycheckAvenging,

It's the same work for them. The DB server may just save some CPU time if it has to delete less.

skunkdung, in Op-ed: Why the great #TwitterMigration didn’t quite pan out

Hoping this doesn't meet the same fate, but with not enough people ditching reddit, it's hard to see it turning out much different.

Glynxxpittle,
@Glynxxpittle@kbin.social avatar

I suspect that I'm amongst the majority here in that I still use reddit as well as Kbin - at present the fediverse front ends just need time to introduce features to make them more usable.

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

I don't think it's a question of enough people ditching Reddit, but just enough to create and/or provide quality content.

And really that doesn't matter as much as participating in a platform that's free of all the BS Reddit evolved into. Fediverse has a platform free of almost everything long term Redditors came to hate.

Kichae, (edited )

If you're expecting everyone to leave Reddit, you're going to be disappointed. Most Reddit users do. Not. Care. They'll stay for as long as Reddit entertains them.

The Twitter migration was actually a really great thing for the Fediverse. It diversified Mastodon, and made it an actually lively space. It's still a nerdy space, but it's so much more than it was. It's a genuinely general and engaging microblogging space. And while, yes, it doesn't have everything that draws the Twitter clout chasers, celebrity watchers, and journalists or politicians, it's a viable alternative for people who are looking to actually engage with each other.

The same is true here, and will be true after tomorrow.

Edit: Autocorrect hates me

kevex91, in Top of r/all

Maybe one of the reasons they are shutting down the API. They just don’t have an answer to LLM powered bots

fossilesque, in Op-ed: Why the great #TwitterMigration didn’t quite pan out
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

I have no idea why they are publishing pieces like this, and it’s objectively false. Mastodon had over 60,000 sign-ups in the last week, and my feed is as busy as it ever was. It went from like 4 million when I signed up less than a year ago to over twelve million now.

@mastodonusercount

  • 12,869,719 accounts
  • +411 in the last hour
  • +12,425 in the last day
  • +69,252 in the last week

Active users have gotten over their initial spike and have now levelled out several orders of magnitude larger than it was months ago.

mastodon.fediverse.observer/stats

Either this author has a poor grasp on statistics or is a Twitter superfan or has monied interests.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

This may be overly cynical, but the same company owns Reddit and Ars Technica.

Articles which would make one tend to expect failure of the Reddit migration are aligned with the interests of that company. This may not be related, but it hard not to notice.

trynn,
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I think it's because there was a hope for wholesale migration of most/all users from Twitter to the Fediverse. Or at the very least for enough migration to make Twitter a barren landscape that would precipitate its imminent demise. Neither of those happened. Of course, neither of those are realistic outcomes either.

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