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SniffBark, in As Reddit protests turn to porn-bombing, advertisers face increasing brand safety concerns

They deserve this 100%, they had multiple chances to fix their mistakes and they just doubled down on the stupidity. This is deserved

BarbecueCowboy, in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin

I think some of the problem too is not realizing that... it's kind of broken in a lot of ways and a lot of the times it's not super apparent why.

There's a lot of things that work in one instance and just don't in another, and I think the user frequently thinks it's because they're doing something wrong when in reality, whatever you're trying to do just isn't working right now.

SeeStars, in Goodbye RIF - Talklittle's Goodbye to Reddit is Fun users
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reddit is not fun anymore

Varyag, in Reddit protest plunges user engagement, site activity and ad portal visits
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Honestly, while I'm happily settled here in the "threadiverse" and all that, I've seen that the main subs I used to visit and have now reopened, are all working about the same as before the protests. They were all basically niches, so they weren't as badly affected by bot comments and the such. We will see, however, if their moderation can still keep up after the 1st tho.

CMLVI,
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I feel like I'm seeing way less posts moving through Hot. I'll have articles from 13+ hours among my feed, where that used to not happen. A 6-7 hour gap would fully refresh the feed just about, whereas now if might be closer to 2/3s new.

Won't have much to compare to now, account wipe starts tonight.

abff08f4813c,

Thank you for your service!

abff08f4813c,

. We will see, however, if their moderation can still keep up after the 1st tho.

That's exactly it, I think. Outlook: Doubtful

Oshka, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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Jesus.....why would he even bother adjusting the business model if part of the agreement was he makes zero money??....Am I missing understanding something? Seems like a waste of time on developers part...

PixelPassport,

Yeah it seems crazy, I'm pretty interested to see how many people will pay for it.

Oshka,
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Agreed. Damn sure I won't be one of them lol. Never going back.

abff08f4813c,

IIUC Narwhal 1 will be free but will drop its ads in return for being free (so a non-commercial app). Rather than a special deal I figure that this passed under the same rule that other noncommercial apps like RedReader did.

Narwhal 2 will charge a subscription to cover the API fees, including top up fees if you go over some limit, suggesting this is the normal reddit API pricing. I think developers of like Apollo couldn't do this because they had preexisting annual subscriptions. I guess Narwhal didn't have anything like this.

Oshka,
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I guess I thought the whole issue was even if the app was not commercial, in order for users to actually make it work they need to use reddit API and that's unsustainable since it cost money regardless. Maybe that's where my misunderstanding stems from. I'm not the most tech savvy with all this API stuff.

abff08f4813c,

Your understanding is correct, but reddit did announce exemptions for noncommercial apps and accessibility apps (without defining the latter term). IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be lunprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

Oshka,
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Thank you! Finally getting a complete understanding. Appreciate the info!

hoodatninja,
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without defining the latter term

Which is why many of us rolled our eyes and ignored the statement as usual lol

abff08f4813c,

Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

NotAPenguin,

I don't think they said noncommercial and accessibility apps but rather noncommercial accessibility apps

abff08f4813c,

Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

wjrii, (edited )
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IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be unprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

They did, ignoring the fact that the scales are completely different and the fact that the 3PAs helped mods and engaged, contributing members provide content and services that Reddit didn't have to pay for, thereby mitigating or maybe even completely counterbalancing the costs of supporting them.

abff08f4813c,

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

WonkoTheSane,

It seems like there’s going to be a super premium tier for power users to cover that cost

iamsgod,

including top up fees if you go over some limit

top up fees for some forum? lol

rynzcycle,

I'm sorry, you're out of upvotes. Would you like to purchase 100 more for $1.99?

jiji, in The Apollo inspired wefwef.app is the best Lemmy app/webapp right now, and its not even close.
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This question is more related to the overall Lemmy/kbin experience and not necessarily wefwef, but is there a potential function in the works to hide posts? That’s what I loved about Apollo, I could manually hide posts (I had it as a swipe feature) or have it auto hide read posts. It kept my feed looking much more fresh, and it’s honestly the biggest thing I’m missing in the transition.

Rising5315,

That’s been worked on according to the GitHub issues and is going to be added to wefwef even though it’s not a native Lemmy function.

jiji,
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That’s great to hear, thanks. I honestly didn’t know if it was just a thing for Apollo, did other apps have it as a feature? I went from AlienBlue to Apollo so haven’t experienced a lot of them.

Rising5315,

Yup. That’s a native Reddit feature so it is part of the implementation of a lot of apps. In wefwef’s case I’m not sure how they developed it because I don’t think that’sa native feature of Lemmy

ulu_mulu, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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Do they hope to pick up all other 3rd party apps users? Not that it matters much to me since my reason for quitting reddit is the way they mistreated the entire userbase (I don't use apps), but I'm curious nonetheless to see how this ends.

apemint, in Reddit protest plunges user engagement, site activity and ad portal visits
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That “blackout” movement, which briefly caused Reddit to go down, dropped daily traffic by about 7%

I wouldn't call single digit percentages a plunge.
But who knows, maybe they will continue to bleed users and the protest was just the first crack in dam wall:

Experts are unsure if the current protest will significantly impact Reddit or if it will just be another controversial moment in the platform’s history.

whofearsthenight,

I've said this before and I'll say it again, I don't think the largest wave of users leaving has hit yet. Once the big apps shut down today, I think there is going to be another wave that actually leaves, and then it's just going to trickle out for months probably as reddit gets less relevant since the people actually making the content are likely to be the ones to move.

btmoo, in Reddit protest plunges user engagement, site activity and ad portal visits

This is a really weird article with sentences in it that don't make sense.

"the amount of time people spent on the Reddit website by close to 16% between June 12 and 13" - what does that mean?

"Web traffic of the platform also declined to about 52 million" - 52 million ?

With ChatGPT getting popular, I'm starting to wonder what I'm reading.

LoafyLemon, (edited )

I trust this was written by hand, because ChatGPT wouldn't make grammar errors.

Unless someone mindlessly copied the parts of the article and stitched them together...

Jon-H558,

it says in the article that the average time people spent on the site went down from 8.4min to 7.16min (assuming decimal min) that is a drop of 16%

web traffic declined from 56m to 52m a drop of 4m or ~7%.

abff08f4813c,

"the amount of time people spent on the Reddit website by close to 16% between June 12 and 13" - what does that mean?

In the article, the full sentence is,

That "blackout" movement, which briefly caused Reddit to go down, dropped daily traffic by about 7% and the amount of time people spent on the Reddit website by close to 16% between June 12 and 13, according to the data shared by web traffic analysis firm Similarweb.

So basically the amount of time people spent on reddit dropped 16% between June 12 and June 13.

"Web traffic of the platform also declined to about 52 million" - 52 million ?

Yeah that could be worded better. No units. Resumably it's about the number of visits.

Again, the full sentence is,

Web traffic of the platform also declined to about 52 million on June 13, compared with averaging nearly 56 million in the days prior.

So a 4 million drop in number of visits.

trynn, (edited )
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Yeah that could be worded better. No units. Resumably it's about the number of visits.

Looks like that number lines up with their reported DAU (daily active users) metric rather than site visits.

52 million DAU is about where Reddit was in the summer of 2021, per data on Statista. It also tends to vary up or down by a few million at each sample point, so we'd really have to see a long-term trend-line rather than a 2-week data snapshot to know whether the blackout had any real effect.

SniffBark, in The Apollo inspired wefwef.app is the best Lemmy app/webapp right now, and its not even close.

I have been using Mlem for Lemmy (an iOS app that is in beta). You have to install it through Testflight, but it is beautiful and reminds me of Apollo a bit. I highly recommend it

Deron, in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin

I can't put aside my sneaking suspicion that can't figure out any of these tools: kbin, lemmy, mastodon, etc.... Is more or less code for, "I have reach and influence on platform x, and I need can't figure out how to be that person here."

Can they setup an account? Can they read? Can they write? These seem to all be achievable. Can they influence? Well... should that be the goal?

i_r_weldr, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business

What a fucking cuck

BarrierWithAshes, in As Reddit protests turn to porn-bombing, advertisers face increasing brand safety concerns
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The ongoing war between the power mods and Reddit's admin have been nothing short of spectacular.

FIST_FILLET, in The Threadiverse hits 100K active users, 2 weeks after reaching 50K.
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sick! go team!

FIST_FILLET, in As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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smells like scab

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