anonymous RIF seems to still work, even though logged in doesn't. it's not like the whole website is gated, I suspect many of these apps treat anon vs logged in requests differently
I'm no lawyer, however, having gone through this a couple of times as a service provider this is my understanding:
GDPR and similar laws cover data which the provider has gathered about you and may have been shared with third parties.
Generally, user generated content is not covered under GDPR requests. Any content that you chose to post which is self-identifying was posted at your discretion.
The best examples of where this must be true are mailing list archives and Git reposities. E.g., the email address you gave to GitHub on signups and the email address that you attached to a git commit may have been the same, but only one use case provides for GDPR protection. Mostly.
In practice there's a lot of gray area in GDPR and privacy lawyers often have to find the inflection point somewhere between clearly covered and clearly not covered.
for what it's worth, folks from pre-Musk Twitter who looked into this issue determined that tweets basically did fall under the GDPR.
That's interesting! It does set a precedent. I'm just going to have to wait for a European class action against Reddit. I hope someone with time and money in their hands takes the initiative.
Hmm. I wonder though - could follow BrikoX's suggestion. Might be the case that you don't need a lawyer or to spend any money on it, instead the gov't org will hear complaints from lots of redditors (or ex-redditors) and then send its own lawyers in. If so, then these folks will be using public money from taxpayers and of course they got the time - it's literally their actual job. (Of course I speak in generalities and maybes because i don't know the system in every single EU country and it likely varies somewhat between them.)
HE will not concede - it's jut not in his nature. There is a remote chance that he could be forcibly evicted by those that he must report to, but it would take a sudden and rather dramatic drop in the quality of content (hahaha I can't even say that with a straight face) amount of money they receive from advertising to make that happen. Thus that is unlikely to happen either.
In any case, does it matter? Now that we've all woken up from the spell - the illusion that things could be both "easy" and free while still being controlled by a for-profit company, just like with wikipedia but without the hassle of it needing donations to continue going forward - why would we ever want to go back, regardless?
It's funny... Moderators are SO hungry for power that they just can't let go. If the moderators for huge subs like IAMA, PICS, etc. dropped the cutesy meming bullshit "protests" and just simply quit doing the job for free, some damage could actually be done to reddit.
But these people are simply too invested in the communities they built and in love with the power they have to let go of the dead corpse they are clinging to.
but that's what this post is, they're quitting. did you reply in the wrong thread or something?
They're not quitting. They are going to continue to moderate their sub. Yes they have agreed to no longer do a huge laundry list of responsibilities they took upon themselves to improve their sub - but they are not quitting.
Quitting would truly impact reddit. Losing this group of moderators who have built relationships with agents and PR groups would be huge. They are literally unreplaceable. It would take reddit years to get mods in place that could do what these do on the daily. But they are unable to quit because they don't want to give up their throne and things will eventually return to normal without reddit conceding an inch.
Look at the media coverage losing r/Minecraft got because those devs/mods had the courage and backbone to quit. We need more of that.
Even in their letter, the mods of IAMA said they'd been asking for tools since 2015. No changes. 8 years and they still haven't gotten what they wanted. Yet they refuse to take the next necessary step. To quit.
Sunk cost fallacy and power hungry are a terribly greedy combination.
They’ve told the media that they are actively planning to remove moderators who keep subreddits shut down and have no intentions of making changes.
So, moving forward, we’re going to run IAmA like your average subreddit. We will continue moderating, removing spam, and enforcing rules. Many of the current moderation team will be taking a step back, but we’ll recruit people to replace them as needed.
That doesn’t sound to me like they’re quitting, that sounds to me like they’ll protest but support Reddit for as much as it takes to still be moderators.
I agree but with slight differences, I don’t think it’s only about power but more on the first thing, they have built communities for over a decade, to just leave is extremely difficult when you have poured this much work and time into the thing, it might be like an abusive relationship but they still love the places they’ve built.
That being said, some of mods have left big subs, but it’s kind of difficult to get everyone on board.
Lastly I do think this is impactful, it literally strips one of the most “prestigious” and well recognized sub of all the functions that made it special, only doing the bare minimum to keep it alive
It’s weird, I always thought the “power hungry mods” thing was a bit of a running joke spread by people who’d been annoyed about a mod decision or two - it’s really surprised me how true it’s been proven to be and how many actually folded when threatened to be removed.
There's been a pretty wide range of responses, and while some boil down to that, I think the general trend is attachment and people fearing the result of some rw 'scab' taking over. Elkaki above's comparison to an abusive relationship feels really on the mark.
Even without all that though, sometimes it's genuinely hard for people to break habits; and many of these habits are years old. Doesn't really come down to region or logic.
Okay, but I honestly would have been okay if spez had announced that this would have gone into effect July 1 instead of API changes. I would have loved to live on reddit forever in a walled garden.
If you put the phone in airplane mode, you can get the app to load the UI at least. Doesn't do/mean anything but I suspect I'll be doing it out of nostalgia a lot in the coming months.
welcome! In case the fediverse seems confusing/weird to you now, I'm sure you'll get used to it pretty quickly, you'll figure out it doesn't differ from Reddit all that much :')
I have been on Lemmy for about 3 weeks. It also got me to return to Mastodon. And both the sites are “fast” enough with new content so that I go to Reddit less and less. It’s enough.
We do need to keep growing. We need to engage new users so they come and stay. But that is a struggle all scaleups know.
Yes. The ability for users and admins to literally choose their feature sets while still getting access to the same content is a big, big plus for for the distributed and federated model
Not to steal your thunder but the wefwef web app does this also, you just paste in your profile’s multireddit url and then it gives you a clickable list and each click searches Lemmy for all similar communities and then you can sub to any that you want.
Didn’t know that haha. My script does the same thing pretty much. Just automatically if that maybe is worth something. And I’m not after thunder, I made this mainly for myself (and to train coding) and if someone else finds it useful that’s great
From the post: TL;DR With the API changes now in place, we no longer believe we can effectively perform our mission so we are sunsetting BotDefense. We recommend keeping BotDefense on as a moderator through October 3rd so any unbans can be processed.
The link is fixed in the post body. I don't get this at all. I only copied the BotDefense link which is available through clicking the title, yet it pasted the next post from Reddit in the post body? Weird, but the link is fixed.
Different things. Tumblr actually banned NSFW, Reddit is reminding its mods that using tools provided by a platform to try and harm that platform is pointless. I have no idea what people thought would happen tbh. That Reddit would look at subs going "we're going to go NSFW mode entirely for the sake of denying Reddit ad revenue", not even bothering to change rules, and just say "yeah, fair cop"?
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