Shit like this is why I switched to a third party app a while ago. I used to have the official app on my phone because iOS and everything I remembered seeing as far as 3PAs went was all for Android before I heard of Apollo. But the fact that I was seeing “posts” like this every three-or-so posts, and the fact that they were all over the comments as well was just way too much.
It’s exactly why I will not go back. I have like three niche subreddits saved that have no real equivalent in the Fediverse and I’ll only check in on occasion. Through Old.Reddit. With a browser that has an ad blocker built in.
I was thinking about asking them what alternatives they tried, but in the end decided it was not worth the effort.
It was either an AI, or I already knew the answer.
It's a common attitude, not just with reddit or phone apps, but just things in general. "I don't have a problem with it, so why would anyone else?"
I remember when Arkham Knight came out, and it was a complete mess on PC. But it worked for enough people that anyone who talked about what a shitty port it was got shouted down.
A common problem I have with layouts, where there's a common trend of leaving giant swathes of white space on either side of the content (in desktop aspect ratios, at least). Like with the new redesign of wikipedia, or even most fediverse sites. But many (if not most) people don't really have a problem with it. I've even heard people talk about "having to move their head back and forth" to see content on the website. As though they're incapable of moving their eyes in their sockets...
But that's my own personal rant. In general, people are often hard-pressed to empathize with others these days. Not just in their use of social applications, but of most things in their lives.
Newspapers use every ounce of space they can, they don't leave giant swathes of it bare. It's not like there's extra articles sitting along the side of the page... it's just blank.
In fact, there's often more white space on the sides of novel pages, depending on how they're printed.
I feel your rant, I really do.
You have no idea how disappointed I was after the Wikipedia redesign until I found the full width button in the bottom corner.
Most sites are optimized for mobile and are completely asinine looking on a monitor.
Especially text heavy sites where even a single sentence is broken into 2 or more lines, meanwhile 70% of the screen is empty.
And it's not like it's hard to implement a button like Wikipedia did, web designers just don't give a crap.
I payed for a full monitor, let me use the full monitor!
I didn't know about the button at the bottom, I ended up going into the settings and changing the theme back to the previous one.
I do like the more dynamic index, I may have to check that out. I'm not entirely opposed to new designs (much as I might bitch about change), it just gets frustrating when things are designed for a specific subset of people with no options to tailor your own experience.
I actually only ever used the official Reddit app. I wasn't really aware of 3rd party apps before all this API stuff kicked off. (I'm genuinely not an AI!)
It is full of 'promoted' posts and presumably the other apps were better but that ship has sailed. But maybe people are saying they're happy with the official app because like me they were uneducated about the alternatives on offer and they're just used to it now.
I'd often see posts complaining about the default app, mostly about how the video player never worked or how things took forever to load.
Most people in the comments seemed to assume there was just no possible alternative. I was happy to extoll the virtues of 3rd party apps, though I doubt I had much of an audience.
I really hope that Reddit is getting punished for being too greedy. But I’m afraid that it is too big too fail just like Twitter sadly. But I’m glad that I’ve found Lemmy.
Social media empires are like silent movie era film stars. They don’t abruptly stop existing. They just fade into obscurity whenever something newer and “sexier” comes along.
Digg failed fast due to people already using reddit. Many users had an account on each by the point of the big update. Enough were giving up on Digg for earlier changes.
Digg kept trying to find better ways to monetize, but eventually just gave up on keeping its own identity. By the time Digg released the big UI change, many users just stopped using Digg and used their reddit accounts. Many did have to create new accounts, but reddit was functionally better Digg by that point.
So what made Digg fail fast was due to it already being on the ledge. Digg chose to jump as opposed to get pushed off. Reddit didn't have a strong alternative coming up like Digg had.
I guess I'm mostly rambling, but Digg was set up to fall already. It just decided to go for it. And reddit was so good for so long that alternatives never built up a users.
In a way I'm glad this time around we're building our OWN instead of jumping into another centralized platform. If it happens again, we can just shard off and host out own instance and still follow all our favorite communities etc .... @Paesan
They were unprofitable BEFORE the debacle. Whether this sinks Reddit or not, they are absolutely not too big to fail. They haven't yet figured out how to succeed even.
Nsfw is also dead on mobile web. And just a reminder that nsfw isn't just porn, it's also cannabis and vape content, and likely other content that touched "sensitive" subjects.
Well the article states that the issue was more managerial than quality of employees, granted, it is very biased since their statements are from ex-Reddit employees but some of the quotes in the article state that they wanted to focus on fixing the important issues (moderation tools etc) but the managers demanded more product improvements that generate profit, and moderation tools are not it. After all, this is the same platform that let The_Donald for years, I don’t think moderation was ever a priority at all for Reddit
Actually, that sounds like exactly what I would be advising them to do in a situation like this. Reddit has been bloating itself with new features that nobody has been asking for because it keeps trying to turn itself into Facebook or Discord or whatever. If Reddit needs to become profitable I'd suggest cutting those and focusing entirely on what Reddit already does better than its competitors. Link aggregation and threaded discussion. Do just that, but do it better. That would allow them to shed some massive expenses both in technology and in staffing without impacting the income from its core business.
They didn't do that and it's probably too late now. I don't know how Reddit would be able to shed its Imgur-like image and video hosting at this point, for example.
Reddit has been bloating itself with new features that nobody has been asking for
Exactly. Almost all their "exiting new features" have been subtracting value and turning the site into shit. That's why I left, not because I care about the API. I don't understand why they kept paying people to make reddit worse. They should roll back their source code to 10 years earlier.
Yeah, Reddit, like so many other websites, seems to have gotten into its head the idea that it wants to recreate the 90s AOL experience, but not in the fun way.
This desperately needs to be a built-in option. Old reddit's design was far better than new reddit, why did these (lemmy, kbin) decide to emulate new reddit's trash UI?
First...Kbin's UI is IIRC currently in its alpha state. This isn't the finished product. Secondly, the UI is setup in the manner old internet forums used to be organized, with some additional tweeks to prioritize boosted and upvoted topics. Finally, this UI may not emulate Reddit in its final upgrade because it's a different kind of social platform.
I'd just ask people to be patient. There has been a huge influx of users to kbin, and lemmy over the course of the past month and the people behind the scenes have been working tirelessly just to keep up with user/server demand.
I certainly can understand that. My issue isnt with the overall functionality though, but the absurd waste of empty space. "Old reddit" was far more useful and information dense. I would suggest kbin's default or at least an option be done similarly where way more articles can be seen in a single "screen" without scrolling.
The idea of paying a monthly subscription to use reddit is so off-putting. Maybe if it were a company that I didn't feel so negatively about, I'd consider it.
Ban NSFW posts entirely. Require subreddits to pay to be private. Take over/shut down subs that don’t make enough ad revenue for their subscriber count. Corporate sponsored/run subreddits plus taking over popular subs to hand over to corporate sponsors. New premium currency to spend on enhanced up/down votes (10x effect normal votes, no limit to use on posts/comments). Newer Reddit to replace old and new Reddit. Updated app required to browse on mobile, requires notification permissions to run. Ban subreddit customization. Subs must allow image posts and use chat. Block linking to 3rd party image and video hosts.
I've been on reddit for 13 years, and have used rif for 12. Maybe the most used app I've ever had, was always a staple download whenever getting a new device. Just a damn shame this is happening.
That being said, this is my first post on kbin. Here's to hoping this community can grow and we can collectively move on from reddit's mess as it withers away from their pride and greed.
I'm still kinda in shock that it actually happened. Well, that's legitimately the end of the road for me on Reddit. I was on there for 12 years, and the majority of it was using RiF. Gg Spez, moron.
I know people were saying Reddit looked normal like all the protests, etc. did nothing but it’ll be interesting to see if that’s the same now that third party apps are dead or if people were just riding out the last days
I got downvoted really bad on a comment i made. Some people are riding it out till the wheels fall off. Some don't like the way reddit treated third-party apps so they came over. Everyone got there reasons!
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