@Arotrios had a really good post about some of the stuff you can do with kbin to follow other communities or even entire instances across the fediverse.
I don't think it's exactly the same on lemmy -- you can't seem to sub to an entire instance, for example -- but there's at least some similar capability.
For instance, I'm on kbin right now, so when I click your user name I go to a kbin version of your lemmy.world profile page: https://kbin.social/u/@SubsAndDubs@lemmy.world. It has the option to block or follow you, which should show your posts in my kbin feed. As far as I know, Lemmy can't do the same with kbin users. I haven't found a way to follow other lemmy users either, except on kbin.
So if your main instances was, say, beehaw.org, you would search for !RedditMigration and you'd see that community pop up in the results. You can subscribe to it that way and it would be in your subs list on beehaw. The same should be true of kbin magazines/communities.
It looks like each community on lemmy has their address posted next to the subscription box, so you can paste it into your lemmy.world search and sub to anything you want regardless which instance it's on.
In theory this is going to work (maybe?) with other fedi services like Mastodon, but I suspect the admins and devs have to build a lot of things, so it may not be around for awhile.
Thanks very much for your informative reply. Yeah I’m hoping that lemmy adds the functionality to follow people, though I might sign up to Kbin and see how that side fairs out for me. Kbin does seem to have slightly better fediverse integration.
What i've noticed is that each one is lacking something. I kind of like the layout of lemmy a bit more, but it doesn't have the same capability of following people or communities from all over, and I don't think you can follow users at all like in kbin and Mastodon. But kbin doesn't have any way that I can find to save posts, which is something use a lot.
Oh that’s interesting as in Lemmy you can save posts and comments. I can across an app called fedilab which integrates Mastodon, pixelfed, and a couple other fediverse…communities/instances?, Not sure what they’re known as, across one account. If that app manages to integrate Lemmy/Kbin it would a game changer for me.
Is Kbin just a web app or do you know if there are any Android apps that access Kbin?
Reddit is a bunch of people asking each other to rate them now, including their clothes and wedding dresses. I don't understand the appeal of any of those subs, especially when we already know some of them were specifically created by 4chan to try to get people to kill themselves 😬
Haha I visited with being logged in and it was true what you said. So many rate me sub content. Someone disagreed saying it is your algorithm. I wanted to sign in and comment to say no go log out and see what reddit shows by default when you browse all, but resisted.
I still have a few communities that have yet to migrate, so I hate browse them. But sometimes it recommends these rating subs, and morbid curiosity takes over. I swear, the vitriol that is emitted from some of these people... It's just depressing to see people treated that way
I used to subject myself to those rating subs on 4chan for some dumbass reason when I was younger, do not recommend. Sucks to see people fall into the same cycle.
I suspect what the article is describing is actually happening, but I’m curious how the writer a couple of quotes deep goes about identifying “emotionally sticky nodes”. They are using verbiage that makes it sound like they are describing something objective, but I have my doubts.
Not really. There is some discussion of "emotionally sticky nodes", but they aren't really defined, just described. Which is fine, and it's actually an interesting article, but when you start throwing around terms like "nodes" it makes it sound like you want your readers to think you're talking about something that is empirically valid, not just giving your opinion.
The article does kind of define it, but does a poor job.
An emotionally sticky node is a user who makes other users stay on the site. Examples of this for Reddit would be accounts like poem_for_your_sprog, ShittyWatercolor, Shittymorph, or wil.
There are others, of course, that you may not be able to name - /r/California was mostly kept alive by /u/BlankVerse, who posted 85% of all the articles to that subreddit. You'd never notice unless you paid attention to usernames. Similarly, a small percentage of people made a large percentage of Reddit's OC. Typically you couldn't name them, either, but you'd know if they weren't there because they gave Reddit a soul.
Reddit started off as a bunch of bots reposting links they found, without even a comment section. Eventually real people came and started posting nerd stuff (like programming articles) alongside the bots. Enough of a critical mass was created that a comment section was added, making old Reddit look like what HackerNews or Tildes look like today. The programming and porn were sent to different subsections of the site for the people who don't want to see such things (these became the first subreddits). The default subreddits were slowly created, then anyone could make their own subreddits for their own topics.
Still, it was largely posts to things found elsewhere. People went to Reddit as part of their trip through several other websites. They'd usually gather what they found during that trip and repost it to Reddit. OC wasn't expected; reposts were encouraged. By the early 2010s, a lot of the pictures on Reddit were mainly 4chan reposts. People who had a lot of stuff saved from other sites were the "emotionally sticky nodes" and people would come to Reddit to see stuff that was explicitly gathered from everywhere else - hence why Reddit was the "frontpage of the internet", an aggregate of what people had found elsewhere.
Eventually we started to see OC for the first time. Advice Animals sprung from 4chan memes and really started to go viral across Reddit. Reddit users started making their own native advice animal formats and now Reddit was no longer just "things from elsewhere on the internet" but new content you couldn't see elsewhere. Soon these people making OC became the "emotionally sticky nodes", keeping users on the site.
And, of course, there are other things who were "emotionally sticky" without necessarily posting memes. Reddit became a great place to aggregate news at-a-glance. This is because of the moderation of the news and politics subreddits, ensuring that things posted to their subs were actual articles, post names were real headlines (no editorializing!), and the page wasn't littered with random YouTube videos or self-posts or images or whatever. Good moderation meant that you could go to /r/news or /r/worldnews and trust that you were getting the same effect as looking at the headlines of a newspaper. Similarly, the 2012 election had /r/politics become a great source of information and discussion about the US Presidental Race. These sorts of things made Reddit a useful site and kept people coming back.
Even now, Reddit still has "emotionally sticky" places. They could be individual users like the ones I mentioned above, or they could be entire subreddits that aren't quite captured here on Lemmy/Kbin yet. Neither Lemmy nor Kbin have great mod tools, and a lot of mod teams here are inexperienced and not as aggressive as Reddit mod teams are. You can argue this is a good thing, but aggressive moderation really matters for places like the news communities where legitimacy comes from users avoiding editorializing. This means that these places aren't a good replacement for Reddit (yet) - subreddits where moderation is important are still "emotionally sticky" because nothing can compete with them. (This is why it's important that Lemmy develop good mod teams and good mod tools!)
There are oodles of niche communities that you've never heard of that haven't come over, either - for example, !modeltrains (@modeltrains) and https://lemmy.world/c/nscalemodeltrains are niche communities on Reddit, but neither of their fediverse counterparts have much activity (other than me). People on Reddit thus don't want to leave their niche community because it doesn't have any activity over here, and because there's no activity over here, nobody wants to come over here to start activity - meaning there's no activity over here. That's why it's important to make sure you contribute often to niche communities you care about, even if your content isn't "good" - there needs to be something to lure emotionally sticky nodes here and get people to jump over.
That said, some places absolutely have made the jump successfully (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/196). But for most places there's a while to go before Reddit gets to the point where it can't maintain itself as a site.
Yeah, what was unthinkable a few months ago is now an ever growing reality.
If ever reddit had a crisis management division, the people there didn’t understand what reddit really was.
Even spez forgot what made reddit special. Or a very big possibility is he never knew it from the beginning at all. It can be argued that reddit was the vision of aaron.
My theory is a bit more of an Illuminati conspiracy. I really don’t care what people think of my thoughts or of me.
I think the powers that be want anything like Reddit to either die or degenerate. They (as in our wealthy owners) don’t want a happy healthy stable platform of free thinking, free talking individuals sharing ideas and openly and freely discussing the world’s problems so easily.
They want Reddit to die or at least degrade.
They’ll put up with the fediverse for the time being because it isn’t that big … but once it hits critical mass, there will be a slow corporate takeover and eventually another slow death and the process will repeat itself
Yep, I can confirm, I visit it about once a day, the content is… boring, to say the least. IDK, it feels like it lost it’s soul. I still need it, cuz of Void, but other than that… no. I’d drop it completely if it wasn’t for the Void sub.
r/voidlinux. Someone already started one (says unofficial, since the one on reddit is official, run by the Void maintainers), but there are very few posts there. Not enough content to actually get engaged. Plus, the maintainers were the ones that always gave the best advice over at r/voidlinux and they’re not here with no plans to move whatsoever (there was a post on r/voidlinux about what the Void community is going to do in the blackout, it got deleted). They see the subreddit as a means to an end (they just don’t wanna hassle with maintaining a forum, so they use reddit).
I’m thinking of starting my own community here analogous to a subreddit that has not migrated. Do you have any tips or advice for someone starting out? My biggest fear and the only thing holding me back is nobody showing up :(
edit: I think it’s important to mention I don’t have moderation experience, but there’s a first for everybody and I’m willing to commit the time and effort to maintain a community.
double edit: looks like I confused your OP tag for a mod tag. In either case, I am open for anyone that might have any type of advice.
It’s really fine if nobody shows up. If anything, you could always just post or cross post something every once in a while to help the community pick up steam. What you should be concerned about is too many people showing up. The reddit admins (as well as certain sections of redditors, it seems) have forgotten that moderating is pretty tedious and not everyone has the time or energy to spend on moderating. If I were you, make your moderating policy clear from the start and stick to it as objectively as possible. When changes to that policy has to be made, clearly communicate to your community what changes are made and why. Some changes will not be accepted by the community, and you should do your best to remind yourself that it’s not a personal attack on your values if they disagree.
Treat it like a personal blog maybe? Like Tumblr or a journal. Might help get over the mental hurdle of people not being present, and viewing it like your own private web page just for you. Posts also help it show up in all so eventually someone will see it.
The only tip is, be an active poster. If you start a community, you have to be the one regularly posting content until you get above like 1000 subs and others start posting consistently. If you can’t dedicate yourself to that, it won’t go anywhere
I had a ten-year-old account that had accumulated a modest amount of karma (34000?) over the years, and had no regrets editing and deleting all the posts (roughly 2700 of them).
I'd contributed in a number of niche subreddits and felt disgusted by the greed that Reddit was showing. More than anything the disgust that they would be profiting off my information was what pushed me to do the editing/deleting.
And since then, I realise I haven't really missed anything.
Caveat: I was never really bound by my karma score anyway, though, and regularly fact-checked people I knew would not listen just to "spend" my karma anyway.
It has a built-in option to point it to your extracted GDPR data, and will edit and/or delete all the comments that are listed in there.
Just configure it according to the instructions, and then let it run unattended for a while. It took about 15 hours to delete the 13000 comments on my 12 year old account.
Just to add a couple of bits for windows users that the readme there doesn't cover
If you have the exe
Have you gone into Reddit and setup the "script client" and got the client Id and the secret (if not I will have to create some screenshots next time I am on desktop)
In windows start bar type CMD to get a console window
Then set some environment variables (they will only last this session) use the example in the git repo or here (the first four you will need to edit for you details from.reddit as per above) and the gdpr directory (if you put these in a file and save it as .bat you can run it or just type one line at a time into the CMD window
Set SHREDDIT_USERNAME=your_username
Set SHREDDIT_PASSWORD=SuperSecretPassword123
Set SHREDDIT_CLIENT_ID=lk4j56lkj3lk4j5656
Set SHREDDIT_CLIENT_SECRET=kl2kj3KJ345lkhRAWE
Set SHREDDIT_DRY_RUN=false
Set SHREDDIT_THING_TYPES=posts,comments
Set SHREDDIT_BEFORE=2023-07-07T00:00:00Z
Set SHREDDIT_EDIT_ONLY=false
Set SHREDDIT_GDPR_EXPORT_DIR=c:\users[name]\Downloads\gdprunpack
Then In the same window drag the exe in so the command line will say "c:.....shreddit.exe" and press enter it will then run for 4s per comment so it will.take hours
I went to reddit a little while ago to check on the status of my favored reddit app, and past the top 15 or so posts is the same shit I saw days ago. New content there has seriously dropped off.
I feel like people are overcomplicating this (& it doesn’t help that most early adopters are techies, who enjoy talking about things like federation protocols)
One doesn’t need to understand the Fediverse in order to use it. That’s like trying to understand the mechanisms of internal combustion engine because I want to drive a car. I mean, that is fun and there are not-too-esoteric scenarios where the knowledge might even be helpful, but it sure as hell isn’t necessary!
Migration was a breeze once I stopped worrying about the internal combustion engine.
I assume that he's comparing the migration of Digg users to Reddit when Digg rolled out its very unpopular v4 interface to Reddit making the current changes to their policies today.
In the past, Reddit has cited not wanting to be in Digg's shoes as a reason for keeping around the old.reddit.com interface for users who did not like the new one, so not wanting to do a Digg v4 is a consideration that I believe has been on the minds of the company in past years.
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