Huh.... because they are all describing a particularly shitty work environment, there is a good bet that there are other employees who feel that way. It might indeed not be the protests that kill Reddit - but Reddit itself that kills Reddit.....
He's had money thrown at him from VCs, thousands of people generating content, and administering content for free, sitting on a goldmine of data and goodwill and Community spirit, and he's managed to lose money, burn bridges, and fuck up the whole deal all for thppe sake of chasing a few dollars of API revenue and a bruised ego. All while others make millions and gain significant community support using the exact same data with business models he could have just copied or shared in.
He's had every opportunity. He's fucked it up at every step.
he's managed to lose money, burn bridges, and fuck up the whole deal all for thppe sake of chasing a few dollars of API revenue
Let's call this what it actually was though, there was no attempt at making money from the API. This was entirely to shut down 3rd party apps. Smart AI companies will just scrape reddit. The only people affected by this are 3rd party app developers and users.
This is even more amazingly incompetent. There are a near infinite other ways they could have handled 3rd party apps not showing ads, but they instead chose the brute force method that makes no one happy.
Fair point. And yes, there's just so many ways he could have made money from third party apps and their users without trashing them. The AI explanation just didn't make any sense to me at all.
A business brain would have followed the money. He's just following half-witted ideas/ego. I don't think he really realises or understands what he had.
The thing that gets me is that rif used to have a revenue sharing arrangement, which was axed when spez came in. He literally had a functional way of profiting off of third party apps and he threw it out.
Remember the threat that Reddit presented to capitalism's status quo around the height of antiwork and GME.
If Reddit falls, it will be on purpose. Same as the 180 of Twitter as a somewhat legitimate forum - Twitter being a key organizing tool during the Arab Spring (with the Saudis being the largest investor in Twitter behind elon of course).
Billionaires do each other favors to keep the class war in balance.
yeah i’m not sure this theory holds water… it’s pretty obvious the community won’t just give up: everyone saw what happened with mastodon
the fediverse is ideologically opposed to corporate and capitalist interference, so they’re just pushing people to a platform that they have even less control over, in a manner that pushes people to be more anti-capitalist, to a platform whose very existence is about being anti-corporate!
mayyybe you could say that combined with threads the “long play” is to embrace, extend, extinguish essentially moving reddit to facebook? but that’s a stretch and a half
i agree with hanlons razor here: spez is just a fucking egotistical moron
That kind of work environment is unsurprising given he idolizes Musks Twitter. From what I have heard, in general Musks companies are known to be horrible to work for.
Wow thanks for posting, what a read. I suspected average employees would not like what is going on.
I can relate, up until recently I was in a company whose product and decisions I strongly disliked and browsing r/antiwork like wild to cope. I was close to burnout due to the mismanagement and work heaped on me.
Until eventually something in me snapped and I went and found a better job. Is everything good here? God no, but my current manager is nice and my workload more manageable for now and I learned I have options if it grows unmanageable again, a lot of options actually.
So thanks for those who keep posting to move on as well, it‘s a bit repetitive and perhaps obvious, but useful nonetheless for those who don‘t see it yet.
Though if one loves the product and coworkers and work and the main shit thing is the management, maybe a union would be the more useful solution. It‘s a good way to influence some of these decisions, perhaps what makes my current employer better is the presence of a union.
But don't. Maybe rewrite your last 6 months of comments, but as an archive Reddit still has value in over a decade of helpful answers to Googles. From a historical perspective, I think tearing that apart could be a mistake.
I completely understand and respect your opinion, but I just disagree on a personal level - and I think there is a very valid compromise to still achieve this, by redirection. It would obviously suck a lot for people who just want to find information, so they can still get it. Just take them away from reddit
Like most of us probably, I exclusively used reddit for finding information about literally anything. Google search algorithm is straight hot garbage it's embarrassing lol
If we want other non-corporate owned thread-like platforms to be successful and for reddit to "not get away with this" I personally think this has to be done. Otherwise it's just still a free database of information that we as the users provided for free, and reddit will continue to profit off of. It's my personal stance on it, but I think it's not right, and I believe the extreme majority of people either won't or won't know how to use reddit as a search engine without giving them profits
My solution is to rewrite all of my comments, but for anything that I provided a solution for (or guide), I will redirect them to the same information, but not on reddit. For example, I wrote a full blown returning player guide (like 18 pages) for the game Vindictus, so I'm moving it to google docs. I will inform the discord, in addition to linking the google doc on the reddit OP, and possibly also reference a Lemmy post, give insightful information, etc
Most of my comments though are just discussions though, not many fixes or solutions. So that's what I'm planning on doing
I was just permanently banned from /r/damnthatsinteresting (which currently does not have any mods) for a 4-month old comment I edited with PDS.
It sounds like they very much don’t like that we are doing this :)
My edit read a lot like the first post here, but I didn’t mention the fediverse at all. I did say that I used Power Delete Suite, though.
No swearing, nothing like that.
It had around 150 upvotes at the time of edit.
I deleted all my comments and content from the site prior to deleting my account. Did it work? I have no idea and I'm not really interested in checking anymore. I'm happy here on kbin.
I kind of miss my massive karma though. I was 168k mostly from comments... Oh well, it's just fake internet points. I wonder how much karma I got here... -102...
The creator of tildes.net is a former Reddit backend developer, and believes this behavior is likely due to how Reddit caching works (or doesn't work), rather than an intentional subversion of user intent:
Yes, this is almost certainly a technical issue. The way reddit caches things probably isn't the standard way you're thinking of, like a short-term cache that expires and refreshes itself. There are multiple layers of "cached" listings and items for almost everything, and a lot of these caches are actually data that's stored permanently and kept up to date individually.
For example, when you view your comments page, Reddit uses a cached (permanent) list of which comments are in that page. There is a separate list stored for each sorting method. For example, maybe you'd have something like this with some made-up comment IDs:
Deimos's comments by new: 948, 238, 153
Deimos's comments by hot: 238, 153, 948
Deimos's comments by controversial: 153, 238, 948
If I post a new comment, it will go through each list and add the new ID in the right spot (for example, in the "new" list it always just goes at the start). If I delete a comment, it goes through every list, and removes the ID if it can find it in there.
One of the problems with this system (which is probably what's causing @phedre's issues, and affecting many other people trying to delete their whole history) is that all of these listings are capped at 1000 items. If you already have more than 1000 comments and you post a new one, the 1000th comment currently in the new list gets "pushed off the end". The comment still exists, but you won't be able to see it by looking through your comments page, because it's no longer in that listing.
Deleting comments also doesn't cause previously "pushed off" ones to get re-added. If you have 5000 comments, your listing will only include 1000 of them. If you delete 50 of the ones in the listing, your listing now has 950 comments in it. If you delete all 1000 from the listing, your comments page will appear empty, but you actually still have 4000 comments that will be visible in the comments pages they were posted in.
And this is only one aspect of it. There are also multiple other places and ways that comments are cached—comment trees are cached (order and nesting of comments on a comments page, for all the different sorting methods), rendered HTML versions of comments are cached, API data is probably cached, and so on.
All of these issues are probably just some combination of all of your posts being difficult to find and access due to the listing limits or certain cached representations of posts not being cleared or updated properly.
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