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Kosta554, in Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
@Kosta554@feddit.nl avatar

I really hope that Reddit is getting punished for being too greedy. But I’m afraid that it is too big too fail just like Twitter sadly. But I’m glad that I’ve found Lemmy.

jubilationtcornpone,

Social media empires are like silent movie era film stars. They don’t abruptly stop existing. They just fade into obscurity whenever something newer and “sexier” comes along.

GreatBigJerk,
@GreatBigJerk@kbin.social avatar

Jury is still out on Twitter. It very well could fail.

It just didn't happen the instant Musk entered the building. This type of thing usually happens on longer timeframes. Digg died unusually fast.

Hubbelblubbel,

It all depends on how reliable meta's thread will keep and grow their new user base.

Kosta554,
@Kosta554@feddit.nl avatar

You may be right.

EDIT: typo

Paesan,
@Paesan@kbin.social avatar

Digg failed fast due to people already using reddit. Many users had an account on each by the point of the big update. Enough were giving up on Digg for earlier changes.

Digg kept trying to find better ways to monetize, but eventually just gave up on keeping its own identity. By the time Digg released the big UI change, many users just stopped using Digg and used their reddit accounts. Many did have to create new accounts, but reddit was functionally better Digg by that point.

So what made Digg fail fast was due to it already being on the ledge. Digg chose to jump as opposed to get pushed off. Reddit didn't have a strong alternative coming up like Digg had.

I guess I'm mostly rambling, but Digg was set up to fall already. It just decided to go for it. And reddit was so good for so long that alternatives never built up a users.

EpicFailGuy,
@EpicFailGuy@kbin.social avatar

No that's a very valid point!

In a way I'm glad this time around we're building our OWN instead of jumping into another centralized platform. If it happens again, we can just shard off and host out own instance and still follow all our favorite communities etc ....
@Paesan

@Kosta554 @GreatBigJerk

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

They were unprofitable BEFORE the debacle. Whether this sinks Reddit or not, they are absolutely not too big to fail. They haven't yet figured out how to succeed even.

EnderWi99in, in Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it

The difference was Reddit had already built up a reasonably comparable audience when Digg imploded so the migration was easy. If you look at a similar graph of Reddit today and Lemmy/Kbin, you probably wouldn't even see these tools register with the active user base of Reddit so high. I think "rhyme" of history is that another service will eventually win, and it might be ours, but it's more akin to the fall of the British Empire than an overnight event.

Paesan,
@Paesan@kbin.social avatar

Digg had bled users to reddit over the course of a few years before the big one. Many users had accounts on both for that period as well.

"This was on reddit yesterday" was a top comment on Digg often enough.

rafoix,

Yeah, Reddit seems like a place where TikTok videos live on forever.

c0nflux, in Reddit Migration Directory: Subreddit Replacements

How are you handling communities of the same name that spring up on different instances?

jozue, in Hello

Hi :)

xc2215x, in Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it

Reddit is more popular now than Digg was back then.

Robotoboy,
@Robotoboy@kbin.social avatar

The bad publicity hurts it a lot though. It's not something tangible that people are going to see results in for a long, long time. It's going to be more gradual than immediate.

Also Reddit will retain a huge majority of people, but the quality of it's communities will decline over time. People will find less of a reason to go there, and companies paying for data scraping will pay less as it will become much less efficient to use it.

Think more like Facebook. Still a huge mega company that has a iron grip in the social media sphere... but largely only gets used by tech illiterate older people. It's often quoted as the "place memes go to die" and "a place for grandma" or boomers in general. Reddit, and Twitter will essentially become similarly comparable.

Anyone saying otherwise, is goofy. Either trying to see an immediate result... or those trying to argue there will be no results.

boojit, in There needs to be a step by step migration guide

buddy i'm not even using lemmy to read this.

Xperr7,
@Xperr7@kbin.social avatar

Seems like a lot of people think this part of the fediverse is just lemmy.

Foreplay241,

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..wait...this is lemmy? Which way is the bathroom?

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

It's on the right, as the man sang.

speck,

Yea that's been bumming me out

relative_iterator, in There needs to be a step by step migration guide
@relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works avatar

Stuff like the user guides took time in reddit. Besides that though, Lemmy isn’t really ready for mainstream yet. They are performance issues and significant features missing. Things will get better eventually though and it will become more mainstream over time.

speck,

I wish more people appreciated the adventure of it all. It's not like most of the content is absolutely necessary for our daily functioning. Whether I spend an hour learning about the fediverse or looking at a stream of "rule" posts, my life won't be diminished.

WheeGeetheCat, in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is this game good now? Never bought it, but the community seems cool

nazuna,
@nazuna@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you’re on PC then the game has always been worth it IMO, and it’s 50% off on steam right now.

breadsmasher, in This has got to be artificial
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

What makes you think it’s artificial?

Calcharger,
@Calcharger@kbin.social avatar

50k upvotes for that?

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Ah gotcha. Thought you meant the contents of the post specifically.

Not going to bother checking reddit myself - not a user anymore. But what are the other posts averaging for upvotes in comparison? Just curious

Calcharger,
@Calcharger@kbin.social avatar

And here is an 11 year old video of Felix Baumgartner jumping from space. It's cool, but is it 34k upvotes in 13 hours cool?

JonEFive,

New barely newsworthy post appears.
Reddit staff: A MILLION BAJILLION UPVOTES!

Calcharger,
@Calcharger@kbin.social avatar

Here is a post about people killing wasps with gasoline...don't see how it's that cringe. The first clip has the female AI voiceover which is kinda played out, and the final clip uses 'Back in Black' by ACDC. It's not that cringey, but 25k upvotes...

mutant, in This has got to be artificial
@mutant@kbin.social avatar

the delivery guy thinks he's entitled to a better tip the same way api protesters think they are entitled to having reddit bend to their will

czech,
@czech@kbin.social avatar

This guy joined the fediverse just to lick spez butt. The post history is hilarious.

ZERO16LIVES,

Lol, calls protesters feces smearing toddlers but makes a lemmy account just to talk shit

Nepenthe,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

But if everyone leaves reddit, who will be left to have a tantrum at? What's left for this poor user? Sitting with their own thoughts?

Niello,

He's on kbin, maybe he's collecting negative reputation.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

@czech Wouldn't surprise me if it's spez himself. lol That's too good to be true.

nevernevermore,

ste🅱️e huffman alt account

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

@mutant The difference is, that the delivery guy already get paid.

JonEFive,

Hey cool, my first opportunity to block a troll on the fediverse!

abff08f4813c,

the same way api protesters reddit thinks they are entitled to having reddit bend to their will api protesters give them free money for nothing after taking away the apps that make reddit bearable

there, fixed that for you

Enkers,

What are you even doing here? LMAO

solidgrue, in This is the Reddit app. They are making it really easy to want to migrate
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

That’s atrocious, plug in y’damn phone!

Also, wtf is with that app? So cluttered.

aeternum,

it's the official reddit app.

Steveanonymous, in This is the Reddit app. They are making it really easy to want to migrate
@Steveanonymous@lemmy.world avatar

Alien blue died for this???

FixedFun, in Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
@FixedFun@kbin.social avatar

Ironically "Kbin app" is a hot topic on Google trends, I think people want a mobile app

CarlsIII, in This is the Reddit app. They are making it really easy to want to migrate

Good riddance to askreddit. Page after page of “what tv show should be brought back?” with every top comment being Firefly, as if the people answering have no idea there was a movie that killed off half of the characters.

metaStatic,

I loved the movie but I also fucking hated the movie

coldv,

My favourite is “what is something very popular that is overrated/you don’t like” and the answers are all things people actually hate.

apemint, in This is the Reddit app. They are making it really easy to want to migrate
@apemint@kbin.social avatar

Just last week someone retorted to me with "I've been using the official app for 2 years and I'm happy".

I'm still not sure whether I was talking to an AI...

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

I just feel bad for people like that. They don't understand what they're missing.

apemint,
@apemint@kbin.social avatar

I was thinking about asking them what alternatives they tried, but in the end decided it was not worth the effort.
It was either an AI, or I already knew the answer.

Gull,

what you see as ads, they see as content.

Zorque,

It's a common attitude, not just with reddit or phone apps, but just things in general. "I don't have a problem with it, so why would anyone else?"

I remember when Arkham Knight came out, and it was a complete mess on PC. But it worked for enough people that anyone who talked about what a shitty port it was got shouted down.

A common problem I have with layouts, where there's a common trend of leaving giant swathes of white space on either side of the content (in desktop aspect ratios, at least). Like with the new redesign of wikipedia, or even most fediverse sites. But many (if not most) people don't really have a problem with it. I've even heard people talk about "having to move their head back and forth" to see content on the website. As though they're incapable of moving their eyes in their sockets...

But that's my own personal rant. In general, people are often hard-pressed to empathize with others these days. Not just in their use of social applications, but of most things in their lives.

can,

I’m curious, maybe an outdated question. But would you rather a newspaper be formatted like a novel?

Zorque,

Newspapers use every ounce of space they can, they don't leave giant swathes of it bare. It's not like there's extra articles sitting along the side of the page... it's just blank.

In fact, there's often more white space on the sides of novel pages, depending on how they're printed.

apemint,
@apemint@kbin.social avatar

I feel your rant, I really do.
You have no idea how disappointed I was after the Wikipedia redesign until I found the full width button in the bottom corner.

Most sites are optimized for mobile and are completely asinine looking on a monitor.
Especially text heavy sites where even a single sentence is broken into 2 or more lines, meanwhile 70% of the screen is empty.
And it's not like it's hard to implement a button like Wikipedia did, web designers just don't give a crap.
I payed for a full monitor, let me use the full monitor!

Zorque,

I didn't know about the button at the bottom, I ended up going into the settings and changing the theme back to the previous one.

I do like the more dynamic index, I may have to check that out. I'm not entirely opposed to new designs (much as I might bitch about change), it just gets frustrating when things are designed for a specific subset of people with no options to tailor your own experience.

HipPriest,

I actually only ever used the official Reddit app. I wasn't really aware of 3rd party apps before all this API stuff kicked off. (I'm genuinely not an AI!)

It is full of 'promoted' posts and presumably the other apps were better but that ship has sailed. But maybe people are saying they're happy with the official app because like me they were uneducated about the alternatives on offer and they're just used to it now.

Zorque,

I'd often see posts complaining about the default app, mostly about how the video player never worked or how things took forever to load.

Most people in the comments seemed to assume there was just no possible alternative. I was happy to extoll the virtues of 3rd party apps, though I doubt I had much of an audience.

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