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Bombastic, in Instead of deleting your Reddit account, consider using chatgpt to make comments instead

That just drives activity and engagement up.

Showervagina,

Bot engagement. The point is to make fake comments common enough that it raises suspicions

Pregnenolone,

It’s too much fluffing around. The absolute simplest and most effective thing you can do is to simply stop using Reddit. I guarantee that their selling point to advertisers is impressions. If they’re not impressing you, they’re selling less ad space - simple as that.

quickleft, in r/ZeroWaste mod talks about ongoing "plague of bots" spamming comments at an extremely high rate

For anyone who like me has never heard of “temu”, it is said to be some sort of chinese “fast fashion” website which might/probably traffic in the products of slave labor. Presumably in a way which exceeds other “fast fashion” but my investigation was quite shallow.

pizza_rolls,
@pizza_rolls@kbin.social avatar

It's like the home goods version of fast fashion. Unfortunately, a lot of the products on temu are the same Chinese made products you will find elsewhere at a higher markup. Especially if you still buy from Amazon. It's kinda annoying to see people turn their nose up at temu but happily buy JABXBSJ or whatever weird ass Chinese company name products on Amazon.

Hell, even if you're buying expensive ass home decor or clothes a lot of it is cheap stuff made by workers paid poorly in shit conditions.

Buying used has become the only moral option at this point. There's still a few products made in the US that are worth the money, but a lot of ones that used to be popular have moved their manufacturing to other countries now also.

Thorned_Rose,
@Thorned_Rose@kbin.social avatar

I wish more people understood this. Secondhand quality is vastly superior to brands new crap. Older second hand can be even better. My not have a bunch of fancy features but it'll last at lest the rest of your life if cared for.

But so many just can't get past the stigma of "second hand".

Nihilore,
@Nihilore@kbin.social avatar

is fast fashion like clothes you can get through a drive-through?

CarbonIceDragon,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

I believe it refers to clothes that are made cheaply with the intent that they wear out quickly and be thrown away.

vimdiesel,

No it’s cheaply made clothes that people wear for a couple months while something is fashionable and then throw it in the garbage after it fades/tears the third time they wash it or they get bored

Arotrios, in Top of r/all
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I think that while Reddit's user count has been rebounding since the blackout, their level of content submitted has cratered as a result of the admin actions. All of my feeds that didn't participate in the blackout have slowed and/or stalled there. I believe Huffman made everyone rethink about posting there, and as the content dries out, so will the userbase.

Once the third party tools die next month and the ability to sift through the content drought is reduced to the standard Reddit interface, we're going to see a black hole effect that will accelerate the slow heat death of r/all. The content submitters are clearly moving to other platforms, and the explosion of content and users on kbin and lemmy is a testament to this dynamic.

It's clear that admins are re-submitting popular content to try and blunt the fallout, but it speaks to greater failing - Reddit no longer has the trust of its users, and the sense of a coherent, save community space to contribute to has been broken beyond repair.

You can't replace that with AI, but it's pretty funny to watch them try.

krackalot, in Top of r/all

I feel what we’re seeing is a lack of OC from actual humans, that is being filled in by your standard karma farming bot. Doubt we’re at the AI filled posts time yet. Thinking those will be less obvious, and show up over the next couple months. So glad I’m part of a site without user karma. It means reposts are likely from passionate users rather than bots.

Hanabie,
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Yeah, but Kbin has "reputation", which is very similar to karma. The whole voting business, while useful for post/comment sorting and collection of metrics, also gives bad incentives and delivers data also great for bot farms. I'd be happy if it didn't exist at all.

AlmightySnoo, in As Reddit protests turn to porn-bombing, advertisers face increasing brand safety concerns
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Oh boy wait until they face 4chan-bombing

pikameiser,
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what's that? give me the tea

operator,
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Google for "The Fappening"

ImplyingImplications,

The original owner of 4chan left after leaked celebrity nudes were posted on the site. The owner faced gigantic lawsuits over it and ultimately decided owning the site was too much legal hassle.

So maybe posting nudes of Jennifer Lawrence to Reddit’s front page would do them in too?

alertsleeper,

where are these Jennifer Lawrence nudes? For Reddit bombing of course

operator,
@operator@kbin.social avatar

Look for "The Fappening", you will not be disappointed

TheAmishMan, in Goodbye RIF - Talklittle's Goodbye to Reddit is Fun users
@TheAmishMan@lemmy.world avatar

Been a Reddit is Fun good user for over a decade. Is by far been my most used app. Earlier editions had the little alien in the corner, and I have three phones with that logo burned into the screen. I really have been enjoying the growth of Lemmy/Fediverse, and it reminds me honestly of early Reddit. But still it's bittersweet losing RiF and how drastically the community of Reddit has changed over the last few months

Manifish_Destiny, in Minecraft is leaving Reddit

Welcome to the 'find out' phase, which should wrap up nicely by around the 7th.

Newo,

I’m out of the loop here, what happens on the 7th?

cazzodicristo,

total reddit death. TRD

DreamyDolphin,
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The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there'll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.

TaygetaDuck,

Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

Good riddance.

tuxrandom,

At some point, it will just be repost bots having conversations in the comments of posts "created" by other repost bots.

Kbin_space_program,

I realized that after deleting my oldest reddit account I should have sold the damn thing.

Might work out how to do that yet for my remaining accounts

Pixelologist,
@Pixelologist@kbin.social avatar

Where did you find pricing info? I wouldn't have guessed accounts would be worth much with the rampant botting

abff08f4813c,

Accounts with 100,000+ karma are $200 and up, apparently. Source: savingadvice dot com /articles/2023/05/31/1089629_sell-your-reddit-account.html

On playerup dot com /acconts/redditacconut/ I see one "rare account" that's 13 years old going for $120 and a 14 year old one for $150

Most are a few years old, just barely a few thousand karma, and $17-25.

curiosityLynx,

I like my username too much to have a hand in making it shill ads and misinformation.

HarkMahlberg,
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/r/subreddit_simulator wasn't just an experiment, it was prophetic.

Anarch157a,
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It ended up as /u/Spez's roadmap for the future of Reddit.

moon_matter,
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Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I'm going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.

parrot-party,
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You can still use the APIs but you do it via a browser. So it is slightly more annoying for botters but a death blow for apps.

Can_you_change_your_username,

I hadn't thought about that, are they killing RES? Killing RES is the same as killing old reddit.

moon_matter,
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They will be fine. But the extension itself is on its last legs. Reddit is slowly breaking old reddit by making features or markdown new reddit only. The team also seems to be down to 2 people and the project is in maintenance mode.

sliceable_aspirin,

Its gonna be interesting when Reddit turns into r/SubredditSimulator

Hyperreality,

It's kinda funny in a dystopian way.

A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it's just software, even if he 'married' his bodypillow.

Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they're regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they've atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.

It's not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.

RoboRay,
@RoboRay@kbin.social avatar

Conversational masturbation.

killick,
@killick@kbin.social avatar

But, Brawndo has what plants crave. It has electrolytes.

Deceptichum,
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On the Internet, nobody knows you're a bot

Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.

If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.

cyberian_khatru,
@cyberian_khatru@kbin.social avatar

you’re blaming the medium

I don't think that's implied in the post. Also reddit inc is complicit in the bot farming since it boosts their engagement metrics.

joelfromaus,
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I won’t miss checking the post and top comment accounts to see if they’re bots. I’m hoping the same doesn’t start occurring over here.

nanaslugdiva,

I have only used the official app and can I just say, the experience has gotten noticeably worse in the past 6 weeks or so.

required,

I have to wait 3 seconds to load a post. Collapsing a comment is laggy, takes like 0.5 seconds at least. Scrolling itself is laggy.
It sure doesn't seem like a lot when I write seconds but it's absolutely TERRIBLE when you use it more than a minute. I only have official app for chat and instant messages because Infinity didn't send me any notifications :( I'll use old reddit on mobile with an extension that helps with mobile usage, along with official reddit for the aforementioned functions as usual.

uxl,

I just wish more people knew to come here. I even snuck this alternative into a presentation at a Fortune 150…

DreamyDolphin,
@DreamyDolphin@kbin.social avatar

People will come, it's just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)

metaStatic,

like everything google kills it was the best of it's kind but wasn't immediately profitable so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

bobs_monkey,

Yup, just got the notification from BaconReader this morning that they’re throwing in the towel

Dav,
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It’ll take about a week for the ‘find out’ phase to wrap up, then we’re onto the lesser known ‘baby please come back I can change’ phase.

BlendedRacer,
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And like a gaslighting abusive ex they won't change!

athos77, in Reddit's Contributor Program could earn you real money for your Reddit karma

Copying my comment from the other threads:

reddit started trialing a "Community Points" program in 2019 in /r/ethtrader, /r/cryptocurrency and /r/fortnite , where posters and commenters could earn "Community Points" that were supposedly backed up with crypto that you could eventually cash out. They announced an expansion of the program in December 2021 but, afaik, they never actually did so. Which might have something to do with the fact that one of the /r/cryptocurrency mods made $10,000 by selling community points. I don't know if the program has actively continued since then; maybe someone who was in the three trial communities can say.

My point is that reddit has been working on something similar to this program for at least five years now. And this article isn't based on any announcement by reddit, but by someone examining their source code. It's possible that this code has been present for a while and reddit has leaked it's existence to try to attract back some of their lost contributors. Or even that it hasn't been present but they included the old code in the newest app release and then pointed it out for the same reason.

In any case, this article isn't based on any official announcement, and reddit has been "trialing" a similar program for over four years. I wouldn't hold out any hope that this actually sees daylight anytime soon, or that it'll work well if it's actually released.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah but this comes right at the same time that they're killing coins and claiming vaguely that something new is in the works to replace it.

Mculbertson, in Does anyone regret deleting their Reddit account?

No.

Madison_rogue, in Reddit braces for life after API changes
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The API pricing would cost him nearly $20 million per month to run his app

I really wish journalists would get this right. I've seen $20 million per month instead of per year more than once.

melroy,
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even per year it's too much :P

kdave, in Mojang's dropping its official support of the Minecraft Subreddit

Misleading clickbait, see the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/14kj3z7/so_long_and_thanks_for_all_the_feedback/

Edit for clarification: This notice is only about the changelogs posts the Java Team has been making for quite some time which we have decided stop, it is not an official policy for all of Mojang Studios, Xbox or Microsoft.

herzberd, in Boost confirms switching to being a fediverse app after the Reddit app shutdown.
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Really happy to see that the dev is bringing Boost to Lemmy/Threadiverse. Losing Boost has been the saddest part of reddit shutting down for me

BoCanCan,

You could say Reddit has Peak-ed. Now it’s time for some Digital Innovation. :)

herzberd,
@herzberd@kbin.social avatar

holy shit dude hi :)

LadyAutumn,

I was waiting for this announcement. So happy that he’s on board with us. A decade of using boost before, and I’ll use it for another when he releases boost for lemmy.

RojaBunny, in Fidelity has cut Reddit valuation to $5.5B from $10B

Is there a reason discord is also being devalued? I haven't heard of anything negative going on there and they seem to be doing fine.

CthuluVoIP,

Recent data breach, and users being unhappy with the username rollout.

OtakuAltair,
@OtakuAltair@lemmy.world avatar

It also just generally feels bloated nowadays... I just want to chat

BedSharkPal,

It's so sad when apps stray from their lane and just become bloated messes. I'm looking at you too Postman...

ngmi,
@ngmi@kbin.social avatar

also, Discord is basically owned by china

CthuluVoIP,

Agree, personally. Nitro ads are getting more intrusive too. I understand they have to monetize somehow, but I wish it were handled based on server population rather than blanket spread to all clients. I don’t participate in any huge servers because notification suppression sucks in Discord. The servers I do use are mostly sub 50 users, and as such don’t consume anywhere near as many resources as some of these mega servers out there.

amphy,

for real! I have a lower tier of nitro but the phrasing around all the higher-tier stuff says "try nitro :)" as if they don't already have their pound of flesh.

iAmTheTot,
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notification suppression sucks in Discord

How so? I'm part of several large servers and they're all no notifications.

CthuluVoIP,

Because it’s basically all or nothing. And even then, Admins can do notification blasts that override user settings. I want more granular control so I can basically subscribe to specific content in specific channels I interact with rather than broad notification settings.

DaniAlexander,

Don't know if maybe you don't know when the settings but you can change it to just @mentions with suppress @everyone. You could also do that for individual channels within each discord.

For instance I have probably 100 servers that I belong to. But I only have three channels within each of the servers that I want all notifications. Everything else is set to just direct mentions with @everyone suppressed.

Not sure if you knew what but if you did, sorry for the rehash. If not, hope it helped. I know what it's like to be completely annoyed by beep beeping on your computer 😠

conciselyverbose,

Yeah, discord is way less bad than anything else I've seen. Tags would be cool but you can change settings per channel and server and as the host you can give people more granular control by using roles.

I don't really know what more you would reasonably want.

Aesculapius,
@Aesculapius@kbin.social avatar

I've had issues the other way too. Smaller servers (even my own) that don't send notifications or list badges on channels.

iAmTheTot,
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But... You can? You can do settings per channel, and I'm not aware of any thing admins can do to overwrite notification settings, I have huge servers that I haven't gotten a notification for in years.

CthuluVoIP,

No, for sure. My issue is probably more distinct. I want discord to work like a forum and not like a chat application. I want to subscribe to get notifications only from specific users, or about specific keywords or topics, rather than broad mentions / everyone settings. I also recognize that I'm not the target demographic in that respect, but searching for discord notification threads will yield quite a few results from other users like me who want more control over when and what the app notifies them about.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Okay but this started by you saying that Discord's notification suppression is bad. And then claimed admins can overwrite your suppression settings. And I said no it's not and no they can't, and you come back saying "well what I really want is this"

Like, yeah, sounds like Discord isn't the platform for you and that's okay. But not for the original reason you said.

CthuluVoIP,

Discord’s client doesn’t allow users to mute announcements. Or at least didn’t when last I checked. And my point stands, I want more granular suppression options and the ability to disable announcements entirely. Nothing I said discredits my original position. To me, not having complete control over what types of notifications I receive is bad suppression. If that definition doesn’t mete out for you, that’s fine.

iAmTheTot,
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Yes you can. You can mute anything and everything you want. And you can have per channel overrides. So you could say mute everything (yes including announcements) and then override that to notifications for a single thread on that server.

FIST_FILLET,
@FIST_FILLET@kbin.social avatar

data breach

had heard absolutely 0 about this. thank fuck i wasn't impacted, brb gonna go change my discord email to a burner alias from simplelogin

Itty53, (edited )
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Tech startups of all kinds are being devalued the last 12 months. The tech sector was always heavily based in speculation and so as the markets recoil, the tech sector was going to feel it the hardest. People have been predicting that for years, literally.

The reddit devaluation falls in line with all that, not really the migration at all. Guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Fidelity's valuation experts don't give one shit about the happiness of the users, and only give half a shit about the number of them -- which, that number comes from reddit themselves on a "trust me bro" basis, like the user counts of any service. Let me even go one step further: the louder you complain about reddit, the more important you make reddit look, the more valuable you make reddit to investors. You have to re-frame your thinking when considering markets like this: users are not customers, they're products. "Look at the reaction of all those users" is what this migration boils down to, to those valuation experts.

On the exact same note you can bet on the rising popularity of any given celebrity by the number of their detractors. See a new starlet getting hated on by everyone on Twitter? They're going to sell more albums because of it. Every time.

Edit: Just like the trolls, your best bet to change the landscape of social media is to ignore the bad actors, including the social medias themselves. Don't engage with them and don't advertise for them by talking about them. Kbin's second largest magazine is RedditMigration. You're defining this place by the continued existence of reddit. Guys: Move. On. Let it die.

Froyn,

What did Kevin Smith do??

Itty53, (edited )
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

Nothing. But Weinstein produced all his movies, and Weinstein makes money every time they stream. He owns the IP, not Smith. And more are in the works. All the while Smith is downplaying his association with the guy. That kind of thing happens all over. It's just people making opportunity out of catastrophe, a very time honored tradition in human society. The fact is Smith cares more about continuing to make his money playing the same character he has since the 90s - despite a sick, disgusting rapist profiting from it every time - shows just how out of touch with the way businesses and money works that most people are. When he goes on stage and calls Weinstein a rapist gargoyle and nods along with the crowd, keep all that in mind. He's still actively working to earn that gargoyle money because it earns Kevin Smith a lot of money as well.

We like to think we're the ones in touch with reality, but realities aren't mutually exclusive. When we say wealthy people live in a "different reality" we're not saying they live in something that isn't reality. It is. For them. Not us. And understanding that is key to empowering us to change those realities.

Froyn,

So any Miramax film made during Weinstein's tenure should be shunned. Got it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miramax_films -- So you know what all you're stating, he's every film they've been involved in.
Any time Weinstein's name shows up in a credit on a movie/tv, he gets a residual. His are probably forced to go to his victim fund. Smith is donating his residuals from that era to "Women in Film", voluntarily.

Miramax and Weinstein broke up BTW. Weinstein only holds the rights to Dogma, Miramax still owns the rest. Smiths' current production company is Lionsgate. While Lionsgate's subsidiary Spyglass bought most of the Weinstein Company catalog, they are not owned/operated by Weinstein.

People are multi-faceted. I believe Smith when he said he "didn't know THAT person" when speaking of Harvey. Smith probably viewed him the same way you would a priest. I'm certain that pedophile priests aren't acting all pedophily during Sunday Services. Again, you're logic is that we should burn down the church because a priest couldn't stop being hands-on with the altar boys.
Harvey Weinstein didn't create the characters or write the script. He didn't direct the movies. He wrote numbers and signed the check.

Show me anything stating that Weinstein owns more than Dogma.

Miramax produced the following:
October 11, 2002 Pokémon 4Ever

I guess that means that Ash needs to be held to account for Weinstein's transgressions, right?

ThisIsMyLemmyLogin, in Instead of deleting your Reddit account, consider using chatgpt to make comments instead
@ThisIsMyLemmyLogin@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t care enough about Reddit anymore to take petty revenge against Spez. Life is hard enough these days without some silly internet drama. Delete your Reddit account, take a deep breath and move on.

Countmacula, in r/ZeroWaste mod talks about ongoing "plague of bots" spamming comments at an extremely high rate
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The mods should have let the bots flood Reddit instead of a blackout.

Madison_rogue,
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Isn't that going to happen anyways if Reddit doesn't supply better mod tools by midnight tomorrow?

Countmacula,
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Yeah, unfortunately.

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