The problem is, many want a second Reddit. I and most here want something better than Reddit. Also, those that stayed with Reddit will not move until a precise copy is available, and someone holds their hand to help them move to this new platform. So many are plain lazy, hence so many stupid questions, because these idiots can't use Google. They want others to do it all for them.
So they can talk all they like about Reddit 2.0, but they are too lazy to find it, move to it, and shape it into what they want.
crossposting is great to spread the word. what sucks is that reddit built the feature, and then calls it bRiGaDiNg when you make use of the feature and crosspost something the advertisers/overlords don't approve (like bad reviews, reddit criticism) and ban you for it. they're coding these buttons and then forbid you to use them, it's mental
I can state one secret community that’s been inactive since 2015.
TheTrumanPlan
Every 6 or so months a random redditor was picked and the whole subreddit would set up scenarios to involve the Truman.
One example was when they made a whole subreddit for a band one of them liked. Once they found out the Truman joined, the subreddit was immediately privated.
They then began messing with him by
1: Pretending the sub got sponsored by a Korean ship company
2: make the Truman think there was an song from the band that they all loved but didn’t exist.
3: Fake an AMA with a band member from the band and then have them mention the fake song
4: Have that Korean shipping company post that the AMA was fake and state they are not sponsoring the subreddit anymore.
5: Not noticing that they were slowly fading in Jim Carrey’s face into the sidebar image for weeks and then telling the subreddit he was getting a tattoo of it. They all freaked out when they got told he got the tattoo I think lol.
That was all just from the first Truman I think. There were 7 more after that.
Here are the full megathreads from back then over the first two people picked. imgur.com/a/oHmC1NW
anonymous RIF seems to still work, even though logged in doesn't. it's not like the whole website is gated, I suspect many of these apps treat anon vs logged in requests differently
I'm no lawyer, however, having gone through this a couple of times as a service provider this is my understanding:
GDPR and similar laws cover data which the provider has gathered about you and may have been shared with third parties.
Generally, user generated content is not covered under GDPR requests. Any content that you chose to post which is self-identifying was posted at your discretion.
The best examples of where this must be true are mailing list archives and Git reposities. E.g., the email address you gave to GitHub on signups and the email address that you attached to a git commit may have been the same, but only one use case provides for GDPR protection. Mostly.
In practice there's a lot of gray area in GDPR and privacy lawyers often have to find the inflection point somewhere between clearly covered and clearly not covered.
for what it's worth, folks from pre-Musk Twitter who looked into this issue determined that tweets basically did fall under the GDPR.
That's interesting! It does set a precedent. I'm just going to have to wait for a European class action against Reddit. I hope someone with time and money in their hands takes the initiative.
Hmm. I wonder though - could follow BrikoX's suggestion. Might be the case that you don't need a lawyer or to spend any money on it, instead the gov't org will hear complaints from lots of redditors (or ex-redditors) and then send its own lawyers in. If so, then these folks will be using public money from taxpayers and of course they got the time - it's literally their actual job. (Of course I speak in generalities and maybes because i don't know the system in every single EU country and it likely varies somewhat between them.)
I’m not touting it, it’s a decent way to make sure that an account is reputable and behaving in a way conducive to the principles of the communities it’s participating in - “upvotes” means people like the things they are posting and saying which means they are good users. It’s just a little …familiar.
I understand what you're saying, but in a general sense, a person with good "Reputation Points" can be seen as contributing positively in the communities they are in. Even posting a controversial opinion and getting downvoted to hell (which I have done before on reddit) won't kill a person's Reputation Points / Karma. I'm still torn on whether it's a positive or not, but it can definitely used as an indicator of whether a person is being a positive member of the site.
However, @PositiveNoise brings up some of the negative points as well. Another being that it reinforces an echo chamber of ideas and stifles discussion, with unpopular but well-fashioned arguments being downvoted because they're disliked, not because they're harmful. And further, repost bots got tons of karma on reddit, upvoted by people who didn't see it the first time, which reduces the quality of the sub / community / magazine by burying OC that couldn't compete against an already proven successful picture / tweet / meme / etc.
It's a conversation. There are arguments for both sides imo.
I strongly encourage this discussion, because at the end it's up to the users - the community - to decide how to use those tools. I think that we have an opportunity here to embrace new custom, and leave what was on reddit on reddit.
but I would argue that the quality argument is flawed in my opinion. upvote and downvote are more used as agreement / disagreement markers.
so if you agree with content, I can understand that you just want to use the upvote (who really is a favorite here in the fediverse) to let the poster know that their content had a positive impact on yourself. I'm cool with that and it's also good to avoid "+1" or "^^^^this" comments. But maybe it shouldn't be displayed (every upvote downvote boosts are public in the fediverse, anyone can have access to this info it's how ActivityPub works for now, just go to more>activity). Favorites are not that public on other platform, I guess only people from the same server are seeing it, or people you follow, I'm not sure about that.
but the downvote mechanism, who could imply a disagreement, is problematic to me. Because we should feel free to specify why we are in a disagreement. They can be so much reason for that and only a conversation, an exchange of thought can help us understand each other.
a simple click on the downvote button is more like a "shut up" for me. Not a really great way to express ourself, to express disagreement. And it's also too healthy in my opinion.
So yes the strongest issue with this mechanism is how it contribute to encourage a single discourse, a single point of view and tend to discourage users with other point of view to engage. It's really problematic for me.
Any form of "Karma" is going to be a net negative, reddit showed that just fine.
It was supposed to be a positive thing. Being as it's calculated through up/downvotes, and up/downvotes being meant as a representation of how relevant someone's post/comment is, the user's Karma would be an indication of how relevant their content and additions to the discussions are.
Of course, back in the real world, everyone just went and used karma to say if they liked/disliked a thing, so rather than Karma being a metric of relevance/helpfulness, it was more often than not a metric of how many useless fucking memes were posted.
People engage easier with rapid-consumption content like memes/images, or quick quips, etc. They don't have to take time to actually read reasoned discussion, and so someone focussing on the low-quality, low-effort crap will always end up winning when it comes to Karma, vs someone who takes out the time to actually add something of value.
Karma is the reason why huge swaths of reddit are full of low-effort garbage, and it needs to die as an idea.
It was a well intentioned idea that didn't work. Best not to repeat it again here imho.
This desperately needs to be a built-in option. Old reddit's design was far better than new reddit, why did these (lemmy, kbin) decide to emulate new reddit's trash UI?
First...Kbin's UI is IIRC currently in its alpha state. This isn't the finished product. Secondly, the UI is setup in the manner old internet forums used to be organized, with some additional tweeks to prioritize boosted and upvoted topics. Finally, this UI may not emulate Reddit in its final upgrade because it's a different kind of social platform.
I'd just ask people to be patient. There has been a huge influx of users to kbin, and lemmy over the course of the past month and the people behind the scenes have been working tirelessly just to keep up with user/server demand.
I certainly can understand that. My issue isnt with the overall functionality though, but the absurd waste of empty space. "Old reddit" was far more useful and information dense. I would suggest kbin's default or at least an option be done similarly where way more articles can be seen in a single "screen" without scrolling.
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